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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#161 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:30 am

stuporman wrote:So it's interesting how the 'muh bleefs' argument works in the minds of the religious right.

Doctors, corporations, organizations and even public programs have denied certain medical procedures and treatments because someone somewhere has a 'belief' that doesn't agree with it.

Now they want to force doctors, corporations, organizations and even public programs to do certain medical procedures and treatments because the patient wants it to be done because of their 'belief'.

Again we have another example of how the hypocritical religious right have control over the powers that be to get a double standard of rights and treatment in the US.

How I would love if in the future the ones who are being discriminated against and prevented their medical treatment sue by using this judgement as a precedent to bite the bigots in the ass who pushed for this.


I guess we get to be the ones to try and figure out what the next model of society will look like because this one has turned to shyt. It has been exposed. Deregulated capitalism, like religion, just doesn't work. They tear down society rather than build it up, like democratic socialism does. The next year is going to be crucial in determining what direction we go in. Frankly, I'm not optimistic at all.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#162 » by HarthorneWingo » Tue Aug 31, 2021 5:12 am

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HarthorneWingo wrote:I won't go flying anywhere for awhile. I imagine that this is COVID related. Yikes. We really have a serious mental health crisis in this country and it's festering amongst all these stressors around us.

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This anti-masker white male "Karen" was a military veteran who assaulted, battered and threatened people as witnessed in the video "was going through a crisis", according to police, who took him to a mental health treatment center "for evaluation" instead of jail. :rofl: If only the police treated everyone like this.

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#163 » by stuporman » Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:57 pm

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stuporman wrote:So it's interesting how the 'muh bleefs' argument works in the minds of the religious right.

Doctors, corporations, organizations and even public programs have denied certain medical procedures and treatments because someone somewhere has a 'belief' that doesn't agree with it.

Now they want to force doctors, corporations, organizations and even public programs to do certain medical procedures and treatments because the patient wants it to be done because of their 'belief'.

Again we have another example of how the hypocritical religious right have control over the powers that be to get a double standard of rights and treatment in the US.

How I would love if in the future the ones who are being discriminated against and prevented their medical treatment sue by using this judgement as a precedent to bite the bigots in the ass who pushed for this.


I guess we get to be the ones to try and figure out what the next model of society will look like because this one has turned to shyt. It has been exposed. Deregulated capitalism, like religion, just doesn't work. They tear down society rather than build it up, like democratic socialism does. The next year is going to be crucial in determining what direction we go in. Frankly, I'm not optimistic at all.


As the video you posted after this reply shows there is a double standard of how people are treated, the framing of narrative about people and their actions. We've gone past the point of being able to explain it as an unconscious bias that if made aware of people will change. They know it's there, they don't want to change it and in fact, they agree with it, they want it to flourish and be the standard...um... double standard.

Theocratic rule has been a source of mistreatment and discrimination throughout history so now overlay capitalist motivations on top of that it has resulted in oppression profit society that has been the driving force of their ideology for hundreds of years. Unfortunately any changes to this only provides more fuel for their self martyring delusion that they are the ones who are being oppressed and something is being stolen from them.

I'm not even sure that this can be changed, there are people who stand to lose power, privilege and profit if it does so are determined to foment the unhinged outrage from the comforts of their gated communities and guarded estates because they will never have to face the effects of their actions or be held accountable for the misery and suffering they have instigated. It may sound doomerish but the evidence supports the doubt.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#164 » by BKlutch » Wed Sep 1, 2021 6:45 pm

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Glad to hear that you’re doing your homework and keeping an open mind by meeting with your doctor. Definitely go with the Pfizer if/when you get it.

How’s your gf doing now?



True. I did hear Dr. Rhonda Fitzpatrick talking on Rogan’s podcast about how the Pfizer vaccine has dropped in effectiveness from around 90+% to now 42% against the Delta variant, but the Moderna vaccine is around 77% because of the dose of mRNA being 3x more. As a result though, the immune response will be greater and it’ll be worse to deal with for a few days. My mom and a few family members got that one and they were all fine. I was leaning towards Pfizer, but after hearing this (dunno if it’s 100% true), I have to do more research.

My gf is back to normal though, thanks. She’s leaning towards taking the vaccine too now, and wants to do the Pfizer one because she doesn’t wanna get a crazy immune response after what she went through (if that report is true). But still a bit more research left to do.



Good work! Very impressive. Get back to me on the efficacy those booster shots when you get done researching it. :D

I still have a few month before I'm due for one ... at least based on what we know now.

Btw, let me know if Dr. Rhonda is taking any new patients. :droop:

You shouldn't have to wait long - everybody knows that Wingo is in the group of the most elderly, decrepit people who are just hanging on by a thread and desperately need the vaccine. That, and maybe a really hot young woman. :wink:
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#165 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Sep 1, 2021 9:17 pm

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True. I did hear Dr. Rhonda Fitzpatrick talking on Rogan’s podcast about how the Pfizer vaccine has dropped in effectiveness from around 90+% to now 42% against the Delta variant, but the Moderna vaccine is around 77% because of the dose of mRNA being 3x more. As a result though, the immune response will be greater and it’ll be worse to deal with for a few days. My mom and a few family members got that one and they were all fine. I was leaning towards Pfizer, but after hearing this (dunno if it’s 100% true), I have to do more research.

My gf is back to normal though, thanks. She’s leaning towards taking the vaccine too now, and wants to do the Pfizer one because she doesn’t wanna get a crazy immune response after what she went through (if that report is true). But still a bit more research left to do.



Good work! Very impressive. Get back to me on the efficacy those booster shots when you get done researching it. :D

I still have a few month before I'm due for one ... at least based on what we know now.

Btw, let me know if Dr. Rhonda is taking any new patients. :droop:

You shouldn't have to wait long - everybody knows that Wingo is in the group of the most elderly, decrepit people who are just hanging on by a thread and desperately need the vaccine. That, and maybe a really hot young woman. :wink:


That how I’m gonna go. Like John Entwistle. Get a hotel room in Vegas with a view of the mountains, a pile of blow, and two of the best looking hookers I can find. I’m thinking this will be my 90th birthday party. Not a bad way to go.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#167 » by Zenzibar » Thu Sep 2, 2021 2:37 pm

Who will be the 1st Knick player to refuse to play at the garden due to the new MSG vaccine mandate?

Noone is saying that Dolan is a dick due to the mandate? What a revelation.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#168 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Sep 2, 2021 3:07 pm

Zenzibar wrote:Who will be the 1st Knick player to refuse to play at the garden due to the new MSG vaccine mandate?

Noone is saying that Dolan is a dick due to the mandate? What a revelation.


I predict Matt Gaetz will be thrown off the training camp roster when they tell Thibs to stick his vaccine you know where
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#169 » by Stannis » Thu Sep 2, 2021 4:10 pm

Zenzibar wrote:Who will be the 1st Knick player to refuse to play at the garden due to the new MSG vaccine mandate?

Noone is saying that Dolan is a dick due to the mandate? What a revelation.


Can we prevent unvaccinated away players and staff from playing in our arena?

Maybe we can get more wins that way.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#170 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Sep 2, 2021 4:29 pm

anyone getting the booster? i am scheduled for this afternoon.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#171 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Sep 2, 2021 5:08 pm

Jeff Van Gully wrote:anyone getting the booster? i am scheduled for this afternoon.


Has it already been 8-9 months since your last shot? I’ll be getting mine when it’s time. February for me.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#172 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Sep 2, 2021 5:13 pm

Texas shuts down it’s entire school system after two of its teachers die of COVID in one week. WTF has happened to Texas? It’s become a slaughterhouse.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_612fe0b1e4b04778c0000b53
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#173 » by moocow007 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 5:25 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:I won't go flying anywhere for awhile. I imagine that this is COVID related. Yikes. We really have a serious mental health crisis in this country and it's festering amongst all these stressors around us.

Read on Twitter
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I’m sure the feds already know this dude from 1/6


This anti-masker white male "Karen" was a military veteran who assaulted, battered and threatened people as witnessed in the video "was going through a crisis", according to police, who took him to a mental health treatment center "for evaluation" instead of jail. :rofl: If only the police treated everyone like this.



Yep. If this guy wasn't white you can pretty much almost guarantee that he'd have been roughed up and sent to prison (or shot on the spot).

Here's a tidbit of what assaulting an airport security employee results in (and this is not new):

The aviation-security law that Congress approved in November 2001 set criminal fines and up to 10 years in prison for anyone who assaults “a federal, airport, or air carrier employee who has security duties within the airport, interferes with the performance of the duties of the employee or lessens the ability of the employee to perform those duties.”


If the assault includes a "deadly weapon" (and that 40lb weighted divider pole could qualify as one) that bumps that 10 years in prison to possible life in prison. 10 years to life is only applied to what would be considered serious felonies. We're not talking misdemeanor disturbing the peace type actions here.

To send this guy to a mental health treatment center "for evaluation" is a joke. It doesn't matter if he was indeed having a mental breakdown (him being a military veteran carries even less relevancy in his defense and in fact should make what he did even more dangerous since he likely is trained in using deadly force). I can argue every single criminal that commits an act like this is (or any crime for that matter) is suffering from some sort of mental health issue and as such should be taken to a mental health facility instead of arrested and imprisoned. And as such would make this law (and pretty much any law) irrelevant and useless if applied fairly and across the board.

Laws have to apply to everyone or it should apply to no one. Can't have it only apply some of the time when the same crime is committed. There is a reason why "Lady Justice" is wearing the blindfold.

Double standard? Absolutely.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#174 » by moocow007 » Thu Sep 2, 2021 5:53 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Texas shuts down it’s entire school system after two of its teachers die of COVID in one week. WTF has happened to Texas? It’s become a slaughterhouse.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_612fe0b1e4b04778c0000b53


Texas' Governor just issued a ban on Covid vaccine mandates. In other words he banned any company or business operating in Texas from being able to force people to be vaccinated if employed by or be a patron of said establishments.

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The term "it's a mad world" probably is understating things.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#175 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Sep 2, 2021 6:03 pm

moocow007 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Texas shuts down it’s entire school system after two of its teachers die of COVID in one week. WTF has happened to Texas? It’s become a slaughterhouse.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_612fe0b1e4b04778c0000b53


Texas' Governor just issued a ban on Covid vaccine mandates. In other words he banned any company or business operating in Texas from being able to force people to be vaccinated if employed by or be a patron of said establishments.

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The term "it's a mad world" probably is understating things.


Where is this death wish coming from? Abbott and the republican Texas legislature are destroying Texas and I don't know why.
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Post#176 » by stuporman » Thu Sep 2, 2021 7:04 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:Texas shuts down it’s entire school system after two of its teachers die of COVID in one week. WTF has happened to Texas? It’s become a slaughterhouse.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_612fe0b1e4b04778c0000b53


They will never learn, it's all political posturing and motivated logic with everything conservatives do and it doesn't appear any evidence to the contrary of their opinion no matter how voluminous it is will alter it because it's all belief based ideology not reality based.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#177 » by stuporman » Thu Sep 2, 2021 7:14 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Texas shuts down it’s entire school system after two of its teachers die of COVID in one week. WTF has happened to Texas? It’s become a slaughterhouse.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_612fe0b1e4b04778c0000b53


Texas' Governor just issued a ban on Covid vaccine mandates. In other words he banned any company or business operating in Texas from being able to force people to be vaccinated if employed by or be a patron of said establishments.

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The term "it's a mad world" probably is understating things.


Where is this death wish coming from? Abbott and the republican Texas legislature are destroying Texas and I don't know why.


When an ideology is faith based and in the case of evangelic Christians they have an 'end times' mentality that they fit everything into. They are actually seeking and trying to produce thorough their actions an armageddon like scenario because that's what they believe is 'true'.

They not only have a death wish for themselves, they have it for everyone and everything, they want the whole world to die because... god. There's no reasoning with this and no amount of widespread suffering can change it for them because that only supports their belief.

They can do the most horrible things and yet they are 'forgiven' and 'good' because god and if others who don't believe like them do the most selfless things helping in any way they can it doesn't change that they see those others as 'evil' and going to hell....because god.
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Post#178 » by stuporman » Thu Sep 2, 2021 7:19 pm

Conservatives : big government bad and should stay out of people's lives because freedom.

Same conservatives : constant increases to MIC and polluting corporate subsidies while passing laws restricting people's health care, what can be taught and businesses acting to protect workers/customers.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#179 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Sep 2, 2021 7:53 pm

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Jeff Van Gully wrote:anyone getting the booster? i am scheduled for this afternoon.


Has it already been 8-9 months since your last shot? I’ll be getting mine when it’s time. February for me.


yeah. i got my first dose in december. it's time.
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Re: OT: The Official COVID/Delta Variant+ thread 

Post#180 » by Clyde_Style » Thu Sep 2, 2021 8:37 pm

stuporman wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
moocow007 wrote:
Texas' Governor just issued a ban on Covid vaccine mandates. In other words he banned any company or business operating in Texas from being able to force people to be vaccinated if employed by or be a patron of said establishments.

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The term "it's a mad world" probably is understating things.


Where is this death wish coming from? Abbott and the republican Texas legislature are destroying Texas and I don't know why.


When an ideology is faith based and in the case of evangelic Christians they have an 'end times' mentality that they fit everything into. They are actually seeking and trying to produce thorough their actions an armageddon like scenario because that's what they believe is 'true'.

They not only have a death wish for themselves, they have it for everyone and everything, they want the whole world to die because... god. There's no reasoning with this and no amount of widespread suffering can change it for them because that only supports their belief.

They can do the most horrible things and yet they are 'forgiven' and 'good' because god and if others who don't believe like them do the most selfless things helping in any way they can it doesn't change that they see those others as 'evil' and going to hell....because god.


Talked to a guy here in Florida who was from Jersey City, a musician who was a boxer and ran nightclubs, covered in scars, IOW he ran with a crowd and did and saw some things. But now he’s a holy roller and it doesn’t matter what you do or say, it is what you believe. Believe in Jesus. That’s all it takes. Doesn’t matter if you do evil things as long as you sign off on the Jesus card. This was the same guy who didn’t believe there is any such thing as being an asymptomatic carrier of a virus. To him, you’re sick or you’re not, end of story and if you are not visibly sick you can’t spread it. So fugging stupid. Of course he isn’t getting vaccinated. It’s all in god’s hands.

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