PG: Knicks fall short in loss to Celts

[jvsimonetti0514]

Are the Knicks really going to have 3 more games this week? Is the NBA out of the freaking mind?

It's a borderline miracle we're .500 given that we had 2 sets of 3 games in 4 days to start the season. About to have another one playing the Hawks tomorrow too. Schedule makers can really eff off.

Wild, we’ve got another back to back Friday and Saturday. The league def used AI to plan this schedule cuz it makes 0 sense.

[dakomish23]

KP is averaging 19.7 PPG on 11.5 FGA. Almost 20% of his FGM are dunks and almost 1/3 are 3's. 65% EFG, 71% TS. His pairing with Tatum and the coach has put him in the perfect spot to maximize what he does well.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Jeremiah Robinson Earl would have been a nice cheap pickup.

9ppg, 5rpg, 53%fg, 63% from 3 so far in 3 games

[8516knicks]

just because the guy we replace arcidiacono with doesn't necessarily mean he will auto be the 15th man. Say we signed Lamar Stevens instead of Arcidiacono..Lamar Stevens wouldn't necessarily be our 15th man. What about Javonte Green. These are actually quality end of the bench rotational players that can at least defend there position.

Just sign Arcidiacono as a coach...because he isn't actually helping the 15 man roster...especially if we run into injuries.

Okay, sign Green or Stevens. Do you think Thibs is going to play either one? They could have signed them but didn't. That should tell you something.

And even if they did play, what big difference would 10 min a game make with those guys when we had essentially that with Obi last year?

But sure, we need a forward, just not sure it's an end-of-the-bench guy. And I think a top 8 rotational player is going to cost double RA (or Stevens or Green for that matter.) And it needs a buy-in from Thibs (unlike Reddish, etc.)

RJ couldn't play because of a migrane and thus Josh Hart had to play 43 minutes in a regular season game...because we have a lack of wins. You tell me thats not an issue.

I'm not suggesting signing a rotation player...I'm saying what the point of having a useless body on the bench as a glorified cheerleader. You haven't yet told me one thing Arcidiacono does to help the team. So why not just get a warm body that you know could actually sub in if RJ or Randle have to miss some time.

The roster distribution in terms of positions is very weighted towards guards. We could use another wing that you know can be a break in case of emergency player.

You could say that about much of the team - Windler, Sims, Fournier, Brown, Jefferies. ANd Jacob Toppin is 6'8" - why aren't u up in arms that he's not playing? He fits that size issue exactly.

[Deeeez Knicks]

KP is averaging 19.7 PPG on 11.5 FGA. Almost 20% of his FGM are dunks and almost 1/3 are 3's. 65% EFG, 71% TS. His pairing with Tatum and the coach has put him in the perfect spot to maximize what he does well.

He has been a great pickup. Still a unicorn since there are just not many bigs that can shoot/score and protect the paint. Makes Boston so tough to matchup against. They have mismatches all over the floor, and on the other end can match up with most teams

[TheGreenArrow]

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Not a good look for thibs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jvsimonetti0514]

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Not a good look for thibs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

5 out isn’t easy to defend and I think you can argue Celtics have the most shooting out of any team in the nba. Even with Denver you can sag off Gordon. There’s no one you can really leave with Boston.

[jvsimonetti0514]

We didn’t really make KP work on defense and if no one is going to hit Mitch with any lobs, you should play Hartenstein more. This doesn’t have to be an all the time thing but this match up calls for it. Let him do some of mini joker stuff and get KP out of the paint. Maybe if he has to move around a little bit on defense, he’ll miss more shots?

[mpharris36]

Okay, sign Green or Stevens. Do you think Thibs is going to play either one? They could have signed them but didn't. That should tell you something.

And even if they did play, what big difference would 10 min a game make with those guys when we had essentially that with Obi last year?

But sure, we need a forward, just not sure it's an end-of-the-bench guy. And I think a top 8 rotational player is going to cost double RA (or Stevens or Green for that matter.) And it needs a buy-in from Thibs (unlike Reddish, etc.)

RJ couldn't play because of a migrane and thus Josh Hart had to play 43 minutes in a regular season game...because we have a lack of wins. You tell me thats not an issue.

I'm not suggesting signing a rotation player...I'm saying what the point of having a useless body on the bench as a glorified cheerleader. You haven't yet told me one thing Arcidiacono does to help the team. So why not just get a warm body that you know could actually sub in if RJ or Randle have to miss some time.

The roster distribution in terms of positions is very weighted towards guards. We could use another wing that you know can be a break in case of emergency player.

You could say that about much of the team - Windler, Sims, Fournier, Brown, Jefferies. ANd Jacob Toppin is 6'8" - why aren't u up in arms that he's not playing? He fits that size issue exactly.

Fournier is being kept because of potential salary fitting at deadline.

Jefferies can play a bit

Windler is a bum too

Brown isn't good

Toppin stinks

our bottom of the roster blows

But arcidiacono is the least likely to contribute in an NBA game. He simply isn't an NBA player. Lets just tell it like it is. He's also almost 30...that spot could be used to try to help develop a young player as well.

[8516knicks]

RJ couldn't play because of a migrane and thus Josh Hart had to play 43 minutes in a regular season game...because we have a lack of wins. You tell me thats not an issue.

I'm not suggesting signing a rotation player...I'm saying what the point of having a useless body on the bench as a glorified cheerleader. You haven't yet told me one thing Arcidiacono does to help the team. So why not just get a warm body that you know could actually sub in if RJ or Randle have to miss some time.

The roster distribution in terms of positions is very weighted towards guards. We could use another wing that you know can be a break in case of emergency player.

You could say that about much of the team - Windler, Sims, Fournier, Brown, Jefferies. ANd Jacob Toppin is 6'8" - why aren't u up in arms that he's not playing? He fits that size issue exactly.

Fournier is being kept because of potential salary fitting at deadline.

Jefferies can play a bit

Windler is a bum too

Brown isn't good

Toppin stinks

our bottom of the roster blows

But arcidiacono is the least likely to contribute in an NBA game. He simply isn't an NBA player. Lets just tell it like it is. He's also almost 30...that spot could be used to try to help develop a young player as well.

Let's cut them all then. And bring in ... five of your choosing. Which will win us how many MORE games?

And if those 5 spots above aren't being used to "develop a young player" now, what makes you think that specifically RA's will be?

[ohboy109]

Knicks needed a big somewhat efficient game from someone other than Brunson

Randle 7-19 FG 2-8 3PT
IQ 1-10 FG 1-2 3PT

Simply not good enough output to beat a top tier team

They also need a real pg i would package Randle and Brunson for a star if that was possible they not it ya need to understand that

[NoDopeOnSundays]

In 2 games Kristaps is absolutely killing us with his rim protection, we are shooting 6.7% against him <6ft of the rim, the expected FG% is 56.8% a -50.1 difference Mitch on the other hand has had his rim protection utterly neutered because he has to guard the big Latvian outside, they are shooting 84.6% <6ft against him, they typically shoot 73.2%, a 11% difference.

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That block encapsulates the night, he roams on defense and disrupts what we do, he limits our drives because he gets to play free safety. The worst part is he makes us pay on the other end, you cannot seriously believe you can win against a team when the matchup is 25.5ppg, 7rpg, 2.5bpg 58% FG 53% 3pt vs 3ppg, 6rpg and 1bpg, and then to act like that lopsided matchup isn't part of the problem is mind blowing, especially since he's losing the rebounding battle, the thing he's supposed to win.

Keep lying to yourselves about this, 108.7 ORTG against the Celtics, we're playing 4 on 5 when he's out there against them on offense. That will continue to happen against good teams with bigs that can take him out the paint and keep him off the glass. Y'all ain't serious about wanting to be contenders with a garbage man at C that shoots 40% from the line. Oh but he dominates other garbage men!!!!! Please, top of the East has talented bigs, one of them already claimed his scalp (Bam).

I been saying this for years. Mitch struggles against good offensive bigs but looks like amazing against rim runners like him.

He was low key getting torched last night by Tatum on switches too

I'm not even that annoyed with Randle from last night's game because I can see a lot of his mistakes and pressing is due to the lane being packed. It's hilarious how 4 pts and 6rebs isn't an issue, not even taking into account the spacing issue but losing your matchup cause the other guy outscored you by 5x isn't somehow a negative

[Deeeez Knicks]

No need to panic. Just need RJ back and to keep up his progress

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[ohboy109]

No shame in losing to Boston on their court. They are better. Move on.

Knicks need to move on from the mid and trade everyone but rj and maybe mitch is the reality

[ohboy109]

No shame in losing to Boston on their court. They are better. Move on.

Knicks need to move on from the mid and trade everyone but rj and maybe mitch is the reality

[ohboy109]

in relation to the entirety of last season it wasn’t out of the ordinary and things went pretty well last year

I refuse to settle for pretty well when the way better path is so obvious. Especially from a player I know can be 10x better than that. Maybe if we didn’t ever see it I would settle for it, but we have, so I won’t

If u put RJ's heart, will, temperament, DOG inside of Randle... pause.. you'd have a STAR.

instead... it's time. for Randle to step aside so RJ can lead us

Stop the lies Randle not athletic or skilled enough

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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They tried to run that stupid ass Randle and Mitch pick and roll, they got some free throws out of once, the other times KP just dropped and stood in the lane. Why the hell would anyone get out on the screen

We're easy to defend for good teams, just drop, protect the glass and we're playing 4 on 5 on offense. If we can't get offensive rebounds our offense completely craters and just turns into iso threes and long 2s. That isn't an issue though, apparently starting tall Mitchmack Robyombson isn't a problem that needs to be addressed.

[dakomish23]

No need to panic. Just need RJ back and to keep up his progress

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I'd say the panic is when Thibs continues to Thibs. No accountability and no willingness to rein in his players

[bronxknicksfan1]

Knicks needed a big somewhat efficient game from someone other than Brunson

Randle 7-19 FG 2-8 3PT
IQ 1-10 FG 1-2 3PT

Simply not good enough output to beat a top tier team

They also need a real pg i would package Randle and Brunson for a star if that was possible they not it ya need to understand that

Brunson is the reason we’re in a lot of these games. Why the hell would we get rid of him?

[KnixinSix]

No need to panic. Just need RJ back and to keep up his progress

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I'd say the panic is when Thibs continues to Thibs. No accountability and no willingness to rein in his players

This team has basically not once been blown out despite a brutal schedule both in quality of opponent and ridiculously tight scheduling.

Randle was not in condition early and RJ has been in and out of the line up. Brunson hasn't seemed to be in quite his full regular season form either. Despite all that we have been competitive every single game. I am not worried about the 5-5 record at all for so much adversity to start a season.