Woj: Randle dislocated right shoulder UPDATE PG 23 - No Significant Damage

[TKKnicks1]

Precious should start but probably will be Hart. This undoubtedly will increase the minutes of the starters which is not good for a playoff run. Time to trade for some depth.

[god shammgod]

we don't need a power forward necessarily. you can easily slide og there and start hart at the 3. what we're gonna need is more shot creation and scoring at any position. but if it ends up he's out for the season it's not gonna matter. it won't be enough. they shouldn't make a trade that's just for this year. if it makes sense going forward that's fine but otherwise they probably shouldn't bother.

[KnicksGadfly]

trading Toppin for nothings looks even more stupid now

Lol Toppin is a regular bench player. Stop it.

His point is that we need a backup PF. Been needing one and the buyers market on power forwards is trash. So trash we are praying Hayward ask out. You have depth for this reason.

I’d like to add an addendum to your statement. We’re not looking for a backup PF. We’re looking for a backup PF that can masquerade as a starter while Randle is out. And even if we had Obi, we should still be looking for a backup who could play starter minutes while Randle is out.

We shouldn’t even be using Hayward as the standard for how trash this market is. Hayward can handle the ball, he can pass, he can shoot, he can do it all, even if he’s getting older. This is something Obi never had or could do. If we had the chance to move OG to PF and mix in Hayward, I would be ecstatic.

Honestly, we should be saying, this market is so trash, we are praying for Obi to come back.

[Besart19]

Lol Toppin is a regular bench player. Stop it.

His point is that we need a backup PF. Been needing one and the buyers market on power forwards is trash. So trash we are praying Hayward ask out. You have depth for this reason.

I’d like to add an addendum to your statement. We’re not looking for a backup PF. We’re looking for a backup PF that can masquerade as a starter while Randle is out. And even if we had Obi, we should still be looking for a backup who could play starter minutes while Randle is out.

We shouldn’t even be using Hayward as the standard for how trash this market is. Hayward can handle the ball, he can pass, he can shoot, he can do it all, even if he’s getting older. This is something Obi never had or could do. If we had the chance to move OG to PF and mix in Hayward, I would be ecstatic.

Honestly, we should be saying, this market is so trash, we are praying for Obi to come back.

during the regular season you can easily play Toppin 27-30 mins as a starter, then its much easier to add a backup for 10 mins, and the rest you raise Josh Hart's and Grimes/Donte's minutes... OG shouldnt play more mins in any circumstance... nor Jalen

[Besart19]

Lol Toppin is a regular bench player. Stop it.

His point is that we need a backup PF. Been needing one and the buyers market on power forwards is trash. So trash we are praying Hayward ask out. You have depth for this reason.

I’d like to add an addendum to your statement. We’re not looking for a backup PF. We’re looking for a backup PF that can masquerade as a starter while Randle is out. And even if we had Obi, we should still be looking for a backup who could play starter minutes while Randle is out.

We shouldn’t even be using Hayward as the standard for how trash this market is. Hayward can handle the ball, he can pass, he can shoot, he can do it all, even if he’s getting older. This is something Obi never had or could do. If we had the chance to move OG to PF and mix in Hayward, I would be ecstatic.

Honestly, we should be saying, this market is so trash, we are praying for Obi to come back.

or to play Fournier and add Hayward

but jokes aside if we could add Lauri and Sexton we are heading to the finals

[Kampuchea]

we don't need a power forward necessarily. you can easily slide og there and start hart at the 3. what we're gonna need is more shot creation and scoring at any position. but if it ends up he's out for the season it's not gonna matter. it won't be enough. they shouldn't make a trade that's just for this year. if it makes sense going forward that's fine but otherwise they probably shouldn't bother.

Yeah, not worried about bringing in a natural PF. We are a strong rebounding team with guys like Hart that play bigger than their size.

Scoring and passing are the areas we will miss Randle. He has 5 assists per game, 5th at the PF spot in the NBA.


The comments about Obi coming back are a joke I guess? Wasn't he going off on coach at the end? And Obi can't be reacquired during the same season, NBA rules about traded players.

[god shammgod]

we don't need a power forward necessarily. you can easily slide og there and start hart at the 3. what we're gonna need is more shot creation and scoring at any position. but if it ends up he's out for the season it's not gonna matter. it won't be enough. they shouldn't make a trade that's just for this year. if it makes sense going forward that's fine but otherwise they probably shouldn't bother.

Yeah, not worried about bringing in a natural PF. We are a strong rebounding team with guys like Hart that play bigger than their size.

Scoring and passing are the areas we will miss Randle. He has 5 assists per game, 5th at the PF spot in the NBA.


The comments about Obi coming back are a joke I guess? Wasn't he going off on coach at the end? And Obi can't be reacquired during the same season, NBA rules about traded players.

knicks are not trading for obi even if they could. he provides nothing we need. we need someone who you can give the ball to and he can create for himself and others. that's not who he is. at all.

[Besart19]

we don't need a power forward necessarily. you can easily slide og there and start hart at the 3. what we're gonna need is more shot creation and scoring at any position. but if it ends up he's out for the season it's not gonna matter. it won't be enough. they shouldn't make a trade that's just for this year. if it makes sense going forward that's fine but otherwise they probably shouldn't bother.

I would still make a trade for Lauri and either Sexton or Clarkson

it goes beyond this season... Mitch gets injured too often... then you can still trade Randle/Hart or both of them if a better option at PF/C becomes available in the summer along with the plenty of picks we have

Isaiah / Achiuwa / Sims
Lauri / Hart / Anunoby
Anunoby / Hayward / Hart
Grimes / Donte / McBride
Brunson / Sexton / McBride

[Kampuchea]

It's 8 o'clock in the morning now in NY......why has there not been any update yet? I mean they surely know the extent of the injury as of now......really confusing...

When do you guys usually get an update on such a thing on a sunday?

MRIs are usually done the following morning after an injury. We will have an update today. Tomorrow at the latest.

I think he was getting the MRI last night

https://theathletic.com/5232127/2024/01/27/julius-randle-knicks-injury/

When asked after the game if he was concerned about the injury, Knicks coach Tom Thibodeau responded with one word: “Very.” Randle is scheduled to undergo an MRI on Saturday night. The Knicks next play Monday at the Charlotte Hornets. There is still no word yet on Randle’s timetable to return.

[HopelessKnick]

It's 8 o'clock in the morning now in NY......why has there not been any update yet? I mean they surely know the extent of the injury as of now......really confusing...

When do you guys usually get an update on such a thing on a sunday?

MRIs are usually done the following morning after an injury. We will have an update today. Tomorrow at the latest.

Hm, Woj said that he was to get an MRI Saturday in the evening. The results are available almost directly upon completion of the MRI. Rest assured, the Knicks have the results already. They reading of the results is also not every difficult...for a skilled radiologist it would take maybe up to 20 minutes at most....the exam itself also takes only around 15 minutes....They have had the results yesterday evening/night 100%....they definitely know that extent and severity of the injury right now....(I'm myself a physician so I know about this)...

So the question is: If the results were positive, would there be any reason to delay making them public?

Trying to remain positive but the longer there is silence the less confident I'm at the moment....

[god shammgod]

even before the randle injury they were looking for scoring and shot creation to replace iq. now the need for it will become really noticeable.

[HerSports85]

Lol Toppin is a regular bench player. Stop it.

His point is that we need a backup PF. Been needing one and the buyers market on power forwards is trash. So trash we are praying Hayward ask out. You have depth for this reason.

I’d like to add an addendum to your statement. We’re not looking for a backup PF. We’re looking for a backup PF that can masquerade as a starter while Randle is out. And even if we had Obi, we should still be looking for a backup who could play starter minutes while Randle is out.

We shouldn’t even be using Hayward as the standard for how trash this market is. Hayward can handle the ball, he can pass, he can shoot, he can do it all, even if he’s getting older. This is something Obi never had or could do. If we had the chance to move OG to PF and mix in Hayward, I would be ecstatic.

Honestly, we should be saying, this market is so trash, we are praying for Obi to come back.

No one is saying Hayward is trash, I’m saying that right now, for who’s available or we can realistically get without trading significant assets (the buyers market) is so trash that we are relying on the Hornets and Hayward to come to a buyout agreement and then hope he even decides to sign with us.

When you had a back up PF and just gave him away for 2 SRPs. Say what you want but despite how you feel Obi can give you 20 min. Then in this case OG can slide to the 4 spot and we move maybe grimes or hart back into the starting lineup. And obi off the bench where he belongs and playing fairly good in Indy.

So yes, I’m standing on trading obi for 2 seconds was a bad trade and bad asset management. I’m not about to argue about his potential and all this other stuff we talked about over and over again. Because truth be told we shouldn’t have drafted him to begin with. But either hold on to him or get something or somebody back that’s useful.

Anyway, OG can hold down the PF spot, so if we can get another wing that’ll be great too.

However if Randle is done for the season then it’s pointless to do anything.

[RHODEY]

It's 8 o'clock in the morning now in NY......why has there not been any update yet? I mean they surely know the extent of the injury as of now......really confusing...

When do you guys usually get an update on such a thing on a sunday?

MRIs are usually done the following morning after an injury. We will have an update today. Tomorrow at the latest.

these type of injuries, especially when no surgeries are done in the process vary from 3 weeks to 6 monthsh if not more for a total recovery... knowing Randle who is Melo-like when it comes to the will to play through pain and ailments and Thibs who has no clue about sport (patho)physiology i fear that he will come back much earlier than needed and we are screwed again... he either will underperform or reinjure himself making it even worse the second time

Steph Curry Injured dislocated his shoulder , at a much older age and slight frame. Came back in ~1month - missed 11 games. Julius is a brickhouse and also there the extended allstar break this season. We'll be fine.

[Besart19]

MRIs are usually done the following morning after an injury. We will have an update today. Tomorrow at the latest.

these type of injuries, especially when no surgeries are done in the process vary from 3 weeks to 6 monthsh if not more for a total recovery... knowing Randle who is Melo-like when it comes to the will to play through pain and ailments and Thibs who has no clue about sport (patho)physiology i fear that he will come back much earlier than needed and we are screwed again... he either will underperform or reinjure himself making it even worse the second time

Steph Curry Injured dislocated his shoulder , at a much older age and slight frame. Came back in ~1month - missed 11 games. Julius is a brickhouse and also there the extended allstar break this season. We'll be fine.

In sha Allahu Ta'ala

[HerSports85]

Is getting Murray and sliding OG to the 4 the best case scenario?

[TKKnicks1]

Randle will take some time to get back to normal even after he's cleared again to play. Hoping for a quick recovery physically so he can also get there mentally before the playoffs.

[Besart19]

Is getting Murray and sliding OG to the 4 the best case scenario?

noo... Murray means no more Grimes and much worse defense...

If Jazz or Blazers wont make a deal for us for Lauri or Grant, then we should go after Sprewell 2.0. aka Miles Bridges

His contract is 7.6 milions which means that we can match that with just one of our TPE plus a pick

and still having Fournier, Flynn and 4 picks for the good boy Bridges


Hart / Achiuwa / Sims
OG / The Bad / Carmelo with Kyan
The good / Hart / Hayward
Donte / Grimes / D.Rose
Brunson / McBride / Lowry

[Juco24]

MRIs are usually done the following morning after an injury. We will have an update today. Tomorrow at the latest.

these type of injuries, especially when no surgeries are done in the process vary from 3 weeks to 6 monthsh if not more for a total recovery... knowing Randle who is Melo-like when it comes to the will to play through pain and ailments and Thibs who has no clue about sport (patho)physiology i fear that he will come back much earlier than needed and we are screwed again... he either will underperform or reinjure himself making it even worse the second time

Steph Curry Injured dislocated his shoulder , at a much older age and slight frame. Came back in ~1month - missed 11 games. Julius is a brickhouse and also there the extended allstar break this season. We'll be fine.

I said this yesterday... I think Kanter actually played with a separated shoulder while Reddish had his season ended. Too many variables to predict. Pain threshold being one that Julius seems to have a high level

[mpharris36]

Is getting Murray and sliding OG to the 4 the best case scenario?

See I think the opposite. You aremt necessarily going to be able to replace randles offensive impact. What you could do however is double down on being the best defensive team in the league.

And just try to do a AI sixers thing with Brunson and the rest of the roster.

[Besart19]

Is getting Murray and sliding OG to the 4 the best case scenario?

See I think the opposite. You aremt necessarily going to be able to replace randles offensive impact. What you could do however is double down on being the best defensive team in the league.

And just try to do a AI sixers thing with Brunson and the rest of the roster.

Browns playbook was full of cuts and ball and player movement... Thibs hasnt been like that since his first seasons in Chicago