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Post#165 » by Capn'O » Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:22 pm

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The dunk contest used to be the one interesting component imo. But even that got ruined when they started allowing a gazillion attempts. For someone to be able to get a score of 10 on a dunk that was his sixth attempt at it is just weak sauce. I don't even know what today's rules are but I'll watch this year just because Brobi is in it.

And if it were up to me, I'd rather Brunson be resting than having to play in the meaningless game

At least we don't have to watch a stationary Burks dribbling the sht outta the pill for a week


It's nice that they got Jaylen Brown this year but we either need the stars back in the dunk contest or we need stars to sponsor some no name youtube dunkers and make the thing into a carnival. At this point we're kinda halfway between it.

Even a few years ago when they had LaVine and Gordon doing all that prop stuff it was a lot better than it is now.
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I don't directly blame Thibs for the injuries but he also plays guys way too much which hugely increases the odds of getting an injury, not just due to more time out there = more chance to get hurt, but also because fatigue and stuff leads to injuries as well. So while Thibs ain't out there purposely hurting Randles shoulder, breaking Mitches ankle, etc. he also isn't helping the odds of more injuries happening,

Divo is the most recent example of playing a guy just way too much and bam, hamstring injury. Precious is lucky he made it to the ASB so now maybe he avoided the same fate.
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I don't directly blame Thibs for the injuries but he also plays guys way too much which hugely increases the odds of getting an injury, not just due to more time out there = more chance to get hurt, but also because fatigue and stuff leads to injuries as well. So while Thibs ain't out there purposely hurting Randles shoulder, breaking Mitches ankle, etc. he also isn't helping the odds of more injuries happening,

Divo is the most recent example of playing a guy just way too much and bam, hamstring injury. Precious is lucky he made it to the ASB so now maybe he avoided the same fate.

Yes it’s minutes and short rotations, but that’s not the whole story. Thibs doesn’t have a wife, a life, or a chill bone in his body. The expectation is that you play maximum effort, through pain, and in a system designed to inflict maximum collisions at both rims.

All injuries are accidents and thus “nobody’s fault.” But some accidents are more predictable than others and over a big enough sample size Thibs’ teams are always going to suffer more injuries. That’s the deal Leon made when he replaced a wishy-washy “players coach” with a hard-nosed maniac who demands wins by any and all means necessary.

Injuries are just the price you pay for the regular season success of a Tom Thibodeau team.
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Post#169 » by Guano » Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:02 pm

I haven't watched Burks back in a knicks uniform. reading about him isn't helping the dread
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Post#170 » by K_ick_God » Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:04 pm

^Win now coach who got rid of our best perimeter defender with a good IQ, under our control, for a guy who has never won. Burks is 100% a proven loser

If the players are making sacrifices, he should too. He’s the one who is undisciplined, banishing players for no reason

Truth is, Thibs rather have his way than win

No matter what he says

His peculiar neuroses matter more than the Knicks to him

That’s 100% the sad reality
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Post#171 » by Jeff Van Gully » Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:18 pm

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I don't directly blame Thibs for the injuries but he also plays guys way too much which hugely increases the odds of getting an injury, not just due to more time out there = more chance to get hurt, but also because fatigue and stuff leads to injuries as well. So while Thibs ain't out there purposely hurting Randles shoulder, breaking Mitches ankle, etc. he also isn't helping the odds of more injuries happening,

Divo is the most recent example of playing a guy just way too much and bam, hamstring injury. Precious is lucky he made it to the ASB so now maybe he avoided the same fate.

Yes it’s minutes and short rotations, but that’s not the whole story. Thibs doesn’t have a wife, a life, or a chill bone in his body. The expectation is that you play maximum effort, through pain, and in a system designed to inflict maximum collisions at both rims.

All injuries are accidents and thus “nobody’s fault.” But some accidents are more predictable than others and over a big enough sample size Thibs’ teams are always going to suffer more injuries.
That’s the deal Leon made when he replaced a wishy-washy “players coach” with a hard-nosed maniac who demands wins by any and all means necessary.

Injuries are just the price you pay for the regular season success of a Tom Thibodeau team.


this is the real crux of the cost of thibodeauian warfare. because nobody is averaging more than 36 minutes. and we're not the only team with an 8-9-man rotation. it's not the same as the luol deng/derrick rose era. (thibs has made lots of adjustments that go unspoken.) we go the hardest. when guys have gotten hurt, for whatever reason, we haven't had much to rely on to mitigate that and have had to weather the storm with more PT. i don't expect the minutes we've seen to sustain when regulars return.

we must ask ourselves: was winning more fun than fun was fun when we were winning? because we did so due to being madmen in our coach's image. guys got hurt and games still get played.
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Post#173 » by cgmw » Thu Feb 15, 2024 11:51 pm

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Im Coming Home wrote:I don't directly blame Thibs for the injuries but he also plays guys way too much which hugely increases the odds of getting an injury, not just due to more time out there = more chance to get hurt, but also because fatigue and stuff leads to injuries as well. So while Thibs ain't out there purposely hurting Randles shoulder, breaking Mitches ankle, etc. he also isn't helping the odds of more injuries happening,

Divo is the most recent example of playing a guy just way too much and bam, hamstring injury. Precious is lucky he made it to the ASB so now maybe he avoided the same fate.

Yes it’s minutes and short rotations, but that’s not the whole story. Thibs doesn’t have a wife, a life, or a chill bone in his body. The expectation is that you play maximum effort, through pain, and in a system designed to inflict maximum collisions at both rims.

All injuries are accidents and thus “nobody’s fault.” But some accidents are more predictable than others and over a big enough sample size Thibs’ teams are always going to suffer more injuries.
That’s the deal Leon made when he replaced a wishy-washy “players coach” with a hard-nosed maniac who demands wins by any and all means necessary.

Injuries are just the price you pay for the regular season success of a Tom Thibodeau team.


this is the real crux of the cost of thibodeauian warfare. because nobody is averaging more than 36 minutes. and we're not the only team with an 8-9-man rotation. it's not the same as the luol deng/derrick rose era. (thibs has made lots of adjustments that go unspoken.) we go the hardest. when guys have gotten hurt, for whatever reason, we haven't had much to rely on to mitigate that and have had to weather the storm with more PT. i don't expect the minutes we've seen to sustain when regulars return.

we must ask ourselves: was winning more fun than fun was fun when we were winning? because we did so due to being madmen in our coach's image. guys got hurt and games still get played.

A big part of Leon’s job is to manage the maniac which IMO is why a two-for-one trade swapping a young guy in the doghouse for two old guy reliable favorites made so much sense.

One of the most telling peculiarities about our lunatic coach is his staff. I’ve never seen another nba coach handle every huddle by himself with literally 0 input or support; nor have I heard of a support staff built largely of unqualified, inexperienced yes-men lackies like Darren Erman.

My conclusion is that Thibs is a do-it-yourself survivalist, which will make it extraordinarily difficult for him to attain championship status as a coach. You see it bleed into his teams’ playing styles, which are iso-heavy, high-usage, and straight-up Darwinian survival of the fittest. IMO you don’t need to read Malcolm Gladwell to understand that this style inevitably ends up with a lot of planes crashing into the mountain.

In the meantime he’s been a starmaker with Randle and Brunson. And his teams are achieving a level of success we haven’t seen in the Dolan era, so considering the low bar I have no complaints and will learn to live with the walking dead injury report.

But make no mistake, the absolute minute he misses the playoffs or gets embarrassed in the first round, both the players and the FO will toss him overboard in a heartbeat.
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Post#175 » by WaltFrazier » Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:20 am

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I was screaming at him (was seated not too far behind them) to play him. He really needs to chill with the minutes, man. Somebody has to stop this maniac. He's a serial athlete killer.


This is not you, but I'm reminded of a funny Red Holzman story from the book Miracle on 33rd St in 1970. A fan behind the bench was yelling all game to put a certain player in. I forget which player. Near the end of the game Red finally turned around and said, he's sick, you stupid schmuck.
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Post#176 » by Adelheid » Fri Feb 16, 2024 12:52 am

cgmw wrote:
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cgmw wrote:Yes it’s minutes and short rotations, but that’s not the whole story. Thibs doesn’t have a wife, a life, or a chill bone in his body. The expectation is that you play maximum effort, through pain, and in a system designed to inflict maximum collisions at both rims.

All injuries are accidents and thus “nobody’s fault.” But some accidents are more predictable than others and over a big enough sample size Thibs’ teams are always going to suffer more injuries.
That’s the deal Leon made when he replaced a wishy-washy “players coach” with a hard-nosed maniac who demands wins by any and all means necessary.

Injuries are just the price you pay for the regular season success of a Tom Thibodeau team.


this is the real crux of the cost of thibodeauian warfare. because nobody is averaging more than 36 minutes. and we're not the only team with an 8-9-man rotation. it's not the same as the luol deng/derrick rose era. (thibs has made lots of adjustments that go unspoken.) we go the hardest. when guys have gotten hurt, for whatever reason, we haven't had much to rely on to mitigate that and have had to weather the storm with more PT. i don't expect the minutes we've seen to sustain when regulars return.

we must ask ourselves: was winning more fun than fun was fun when we were winning? because we did so due to being madmen in our coach's image. guys got hurt and games still get played.

A big part of Leon’s job is to manage the maniac which IMO is why a two-for-one trade swapping a young guy in the doghouse for two old guy reliable favorites made so much sense.

One of the most telling peculiarities about our lunatic coach is his staff. I’ve never seen another nba coach handle every huddle by himself with literally 0 input or support; nor have I heard of a support staff built largely of unqualified, inexperienced yes-men lackies like Darren Erman.

My conclusion is that Thibs is a do-it-yourself survivalist, which will make it extraordinarily difficult for him to attain championship status as a coach. You see it bleed into his teams’ playing styles, which are iso-heavy, high-usage, and straight-up Darwinian survival of the fittest. IMO you don’t need to read Malcolm Gladwell to understand that this style inevitably ends up with a lot of planes crashing into the mountain.

In the meantime he’s been a starmaker with Randle and Brunson. And his teams are achieving a level of success we haven’t seen in the Dolan era, so considering the low bar I have no complaints and will learn to live with the walking dead injury report.

But make no mistake, the absolute minute he misses the playoffs or gets embarrassed in the first round, both the players and the FO will toss him overboard in a heartbeat.


been thinking about it for quite some time, never heard of the work and effort of guys like johnnie bryant and co. and it seem like its all thibs. wonder whats happening over there.
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this is the real crux of the cost of thibodeauian warfare. because nobody is averaging more than 36 minutes. and we're not the only team with an 8-9-man rotation. it's not the same as the luol deng/derrick rose era. (thibs has made lots of adjustments that go unspoken.) we go the hardest. when guys have gotten hurt, for whatever reason, we haven't had much to rely on to mitigate that and have had to weather the storm with more PT. i don't expect the minutes we've seen to sustain when regulars return.

we must ask ourselves: was winning more fun than fun was fun when we were winning? because we did so due to being madmen in our coach's image. guys got hurt and games still get played.

A big part of Leon’s job is to manage the maniac which IMO is why a two-for-one trade swapping a young guy in the doghouse for two old guy reliable favorites made so much sense.

One of the most telling peculiarities about our lunatic coach is his staff. I’ve never seen another nba coach handle every huddle by himself with literally 0 input or support; nor have I heard of a support staff built largely of unqualified, inexperienced yes-men lackies like Darren Erman.

My conclusion is that Thibs is a do-it-yourself survivalist, which will make it extraordinarily difficult for him to attain championship status as a coach. You see it bleed into his teams’ playing styles, which are iso-heavy, high-usage, and straight-up Darwinian survival of the fittest. IMO you don’t need to read Malcolm Gladwell to understand that this style inevitably ends up with a lot of planes crashing into the mountain.

In the meantime he’s been a starmaker with Randle and Brunson. And his teams are achieving a level of success we haven’t seen in the Dolan era, so considering the low bar I have no complaints and will learn to live with the walking dead injury report.

But make no mistake, the absolute minute he misses the playoffs or gets embarrassed in the first round, both the players and the FO will toss him overboard in a heartbeat.


been thinking about it for quite some time, never heard of the work and effort of guys like johnnie bryant and co. and it seem like its all thibs. wonder whats happening over there.

Oh this has been Thibs’ way forever. Bryant was a forced hire by Leon.

Thibs has his guys whose role is straight up lackey loyalism, much like Dolan did for years with the Mills regime.

The effect is to motivate professional athletes with a hardcore no-bullsh*t walk-the-walk circle of trust. You do things Thibs’ way or you GTFO. Unless you’re a star, of course. Or the godson of a star and the Canada Basketball president’s son. That sh*t he pulled with Cam Reddish was hardcore AF and sent a clear message to Leon that he’s really not F*ing around with the circle-of-trust loyalty thing.

And yes, the effect is that marginal players like Hartenstein put their heads through brick walls trying to earn a spot. Say what you will about the injury report, but look at the career high production from guys like Mitch, Hartenstein, Hart, Precious, and DDV — that sh*t works.
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cgmw wrote:Yes it’s minutes and short rotations, but that’s not the whole story. Thibs doesn’t have a wife, a life, or a chill bone in his body. The expectation is that you play maximum effort, through pain, and in a system designed to inflict maximum collisions at both rims.

All injuries are accidents and thus “nobody’s fault.” But some accidents are more predictable than others and over a big enough sample size Thibs’ teams are always going to suffer more injuries.
That’s the deal Leon made when he replaced a wishy-washy “players coach” with a hard-nosed maniac who demands wins by any and all means necessary.

Injuries are just the price you pay for the regular season success of a Tom Thibodeau team.


this is the real crux of the cost of thibodeauian warfare. because nobody is averaging more than 36 minutes. and we're not the only team with an 8-9-man rotation. it's not the same as the luol deng/derrick rose era. (thibs has made lots of adjustments that go unspoken.) we go the hardest. when guys have gotten hurt, for whatever reason, we haven't had much to rely on to mitigate that and have had to weather the storm with more PT. i don't expect the minutes we've seen to sustain when regulars return.

we must ask ourselves: was winning more fun than fun was fun when we were winning? because we did so due to being madmen in our coach's image. guys got hurt and games still get played.

A big part of Leon’s job is to manage the maniac which IMO is why a two-for-one trade swapping a young guy in the doghouse for two old guy reliable favorites made so much sense.

One of the most telling peculiarities about our lunatic coach is his staff. I’ve never seen another nba coach handle every huddle by himself with literally 0 input or support; nor have I heard of a support staff built largely of unqualified, inexperienced yes-men lackies like Darren Erman.

My conclusion is that Thibs is a do-it-yourself survivalist, which will make it extraordinarily difficult for him to attain championship status as a coach. You see it bleed into his teams’ playing styles, which are iso-heavy, high-usage, and straight-up Darwinian survival of the fittest. IMO you don’t need to read Malcolm Gladwell to understand that this style inevitably ends up with a lot of planes crashing into the mountain.

In the meantime he’s been a starmaker with Randle and Brunson. And his teams are achieving a level of success we haven’t seen in the Dolan era, so considering the low bar I have no complaints and will learn to live with the walking dead injury report.

But make no mistake, the absolute minute he misses the playoffs or gets embarrassed in the first round, both the players and the FO will toss him overboard in a heartbeat.


Not sure the FO, or Jalen, or Randle see him the way you describe. Also, he missed the playoffs his second season. Didn’t seem like he lost any support.
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Post#179 » by Jeff Van Gully » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:17 am

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this is the real crux of the cost of thibodeauian warfare. because nobody is averaging more than 36 minutes. and we're not the only team with an 8-9-man rotation. it's not the same as the luol deng/derrick rose era. (thibs has made lots of adjustments that go unspoken.) we go the hardest. when guys have gotten hurt, for whatever reason, we haven't had much to rely on to mitigate that and have had to weather the storm with more PT. i don't expect the minutes we've seen to sustain when regulars return.

we must ask ourselves: was winning more fun than fun was fun when we were winning? because we did so due to being madmen in our coach's image. guys got hurt and games still get played.

A big part of Leon’s job is to manage the maniac which IMO is why a two-for-one trade swapping a young guy in the doghouse for two old guy reliable favorites made so much sense.

One of the most telling peculiarities about our lunatic coach is his staff. I’ve never seen another nba coach handle every huddle by himself with literally 0 input or support; nor have I heard of a support staff built largely of unqualified, inexperienced yes-men lackies like Darren Erman.

My conclusion is that Thibs is a do-it-yourself survivalist, which will make it extraordinarily difficult for him to attain championship status as a coach. You see it bleed into his teams’ playing styles, which are iso-heavy, high-usage, and straight-up Darwinian survival of the fittest. IMO you don’t need to read Malcolm Gladwell to understand that this style inevitably ends up with a lot of planes crashing into the mountain.

In the meantime he’s been a starmaker with Randle and Brunson. And his teams are achieving a level of success we haven’t seen in the Dolan era, so considering the low bar I have no complaints and will learn to live with the walking dead injury report.

But make no mistake, the absolute minute he misses the playoffs or gets embarrassed in the first round, both the players and the FO will toss him overboard in a heartbeat.


Not sure the FO, or Jalen, or Randle see him the way you describe. Also, he missed the playoffs his second season. Didn’t seem like he lost any support.


Ok, now y’all just writing fan fiction.
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