OG - is he worth the money he’ll demand?

[NoDopeOnSundays]

What does Randle on a nice cost controlled contract have to do with resigning OG? Unless it's apron stuff that I don't understand well. Seems nonsensical

The reason you're hearing about Randle being moved is because he's going to be an UFA at the end of next season, they have to decide if they want to extend him or not, his max would be 4 years $190 million so he's no longer cost controlled. He'll be much harder to move once he gets that new contract too. They will be making similar money, and we just saw OG play the 4, the rationale being that they could upgrade the SG or C by trading Randle and using OG as the new PF.

Ok that makes some sense, but overall I think Randle is being extremely under rated overall. Keep them both, OG is not a play maker or a guaranteed bucket. Given how Randle is talked about by most media, who else is gonna max him so who's to say we need to. Media folks would have us believe he's a negative asset

It's not that simple anymore, it sounds like we're going to need to max out OG to keep him, then you have Hartenstein who will be a FA, after that Randle and Brunson are due extensions. The new CBA makes team building more difficult and locking into the team we have now may not make as much sense, somebody is most likely getting traded this offseason, whether it's Mitch + Bog or Randle, they wont be able to give all these guys extensions without something changing.

[robillionaire]

What does Randle on a nice cost controlled contract have to do with resigning OG? Unless it's apron stuff that I don't understand well. Seems nonsensical

The reason you're hearing about Randle being moved is because he's going to be an UFA at the end of next season, they have to decide if they want to extend him or not, his max would be 4 years $190 million so he's no longer cost controlled. He'll be much harder to move once he gets that new contract too. They will be making similar money, and we just saw OG play the 4, the rationale being that they could upgrade the SG or C by trading Randle and using OG as the new PF.

Hart played some 4 and had a ton of rebounds, it’s probably more like they are paying Hart 20M so they maybe want to keep starting him with some stop gap backup or rookie PF so they can keep starting the nova trio together along with OG. They could trade Randle for a star center if one came available

[jvsimonetti0514]

Read on Twitter

Never heard of this reporter and it directly contradicts what Fred Katz reported about trading Randle but I figured it was worth posting anyways.

I’m sure OG wants to play with Randle. He doesn’t want to be the reason why Randle is traded. His agent at CAA is Leon’s son FFS.

I call “Clickbait BS”

Yeah I’m not too stressed about it. The dude writes for clutchpoints, which is a crappy clickbait website. Pretty sure we wouldn’t need to break the team to pay both Randle and OG. Or at least haven’t read anyone that said we should be afraid about that. Figured I should at least post it even if it’s not likely.

[dakomish23]

I’ve seen Dolan pay big tax bills for trash teams. The last thing I’d ever think was going to stop our pursuit of a trophy was money.

But I have a coworker who’s friends with someone in the Knicks organization & he told him they traded IQ b/c they weren’t going to be able to pay him. Who knows if that guys was just doing MSG spin though

Keep Randle. Re-sign OG & Hartenstein. Go to war while we can b/c anything can happen

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

I’ve seen Dolan pay big tax bills for trash teams. The last thing I’d ever think was going to stop our pursuit of a trophy was money.

But I have a coworker who’s friends with someone in the Knicks organization & he told him they traded IQ b/c they weren’t going to be able to pay him. Who knows if that guys was just doing MSG spin though

Keep Randle. Re-sign OG & Hartenstein. Go to war while we can b/c anything can happen

On IQ, I think that is more about the second apron numbers and losing flexibility to team build than Dolan's budget being limited per se. @Richard2222?

[egelband]

What kind of injuries have hampered OG the past few years? Seems this year they were pretty random one-off type things.

[egelband]

What kind of injuries have hampered OG the past few years? Seems this year they were pretty random one-off type things.

[robillionaire]

What kind of injuries have hampered OG the past few years? Seems this year they were pretty random one-off type things.

That’s the encouraging thing if you ask me. If not like he suffered some major debilitating condition will never be the same kemba Walker type situation. Just a lot of dings here and there


https://www.foxsports.com/nba/og-anunoby-player-injuries

[Adelheid]

they might need to let go/trade bojan instead; too expensive for just a backup that is old, cant defend and create

[GONYK]

they might need to let go/trade bojan instead; too expensive for just a backup that cant defend and create

Bogey was acquired to be traded

[denterprise]

The way Leon works is, he does not leave much to chance. I am sure he and his son already worked out the details before the trade. OG will be a Knick for many years.

[dakomish23]

I’ve seen Dolan pay big tax bills for trash teams. The last thing I’d ever think was going to stop our pursuit of a trophy was money.

But I have a coworker who’s friends with someone in the Knicks organization & he told him they traded IQ b/c they weren’t going to be able to pay him. Who knows if that guys was just doing MSG spin though

Keep Randle. Re-sign OG & Hartenstein. Go to war while we can b/c anything can happen

On IQ, I think that is more about the second apron numbers and losing flexibility to team build than Dolan's budget being limited per se. @Richard2222?

Def a possibility

[dakomish23]

I’ve seen Dolan pay big tax bills for trash teams. The last thing I’d ever think was going to stop our pursuit of a trophy was money.

But I have a coworker who’s friends with someone in the Knicks organization & he told him they traded IQ b/c they weren’t going to be able to pay him. Who knows if that guys was just doing MSG spin though

Keep Randle. Re-sign OG & Hartenstein. Go to war while we can b/c anything can happen

On IQ, I think that is more about the second apron numbers and losing flexibility to team build than Dolan's budget being limited per se. @Richard2222?

Def a possibility

[sol537]

they might need to let go/trade bojan instead; too expensive for just a backup that cant defend and create

Bogey was acquired to be traded

Bogey + McBride + picks for Mikal or someone comparable. Book it. (or expand it to Bogey + Mitch + McBride + picks for PG13)...

[GONYK]

they might need to let go/trade bojan instead; too expensive for just a backup that cant defend and create

Bogey was acquired to be traded

Bogey + McBride + picks for Mikal or someone comparable. Book it. (or expand it to Bogey + Mitch + McBride + picks for PG13)...

[Synciere]

The reason you're hearing about Randle being moved is because he's going to be an UFA at the end of next season, they have to decide if they want to extend him or not, his max would be 4 years $190 million so he's no longer cost controlled. He'll be much harder to move once he gets that new contract too. They will be making similar money, and we just saw OG play the 4, the rationale being that they could upgrade the SG or C by trading Randle and using OG as the new PF.

Ok that makes some sense, but overall I think Randle is being extremely under rated overall. Keep them both, OG is not a play maker or a guaranteed bucket. Given how Randle is talked about by most media, who else is gonna max him so who's to say we need to. Media folks would have us believe he's a negative asset

It's not that simple anymore, it sounds like we're going to need to max out OG to keep him, then you have Hartenstein who will be a FA, after that Randle and Brunson are due extensions. The new CBA makes team building more difficult and locking into the team we have now may not make as much sense, somebody is most likely getting traded this offseason, whether it's Mitch + Bog or Randle, they wont be able to give all these guys extensions without something changing.

It's Jalen, then Randle, then OG. For many on this board who love to s*** on Randle, it would be OG, then Randle in terms of importance. People are talking about Hartenstein or whoever, but if we're going to make trades it'll be on the edges, not those three guys IMO.

[Synciere]

What kind of injuries have hampered OG the past few years? Seems this year they were pretty random one-off type things.

2017: torn ACL
2018: sprained right ankle, orbital contusion, wrist sprain
2019: Head, appendix, eye
2021: Calf
2022: Hip, finger
2023: multiple ankle, wrist
2024: Elbow, hamstring

Last four seasons games played: 43, 48, 67, 50.

He's had so many one-offs that it's turned into him missing a third of his games.

[thebuzzardman]

I’ve seen Dolan pay big tax bills for trash teams. The last thing I’d ever think was going to stop our pursuit of a trophy was money.

But I have a coworker who’s friends with someone in the Knicks organization & he told him they traded IQ b/c they weren’t going to be able to pay him. Who knows if that guys was just doing MSG spin though

Keep Randle. Re-sign OG & Hartenstein. Go to war while we can b/c anything can happen

There's "weren't going to be able to pay him" and there's "not willing to pay him what the expected amount is going to be in the open market, while the team tries to maintain future flexibility"

Pretty sure it was the latter.

[thebuzzardman]

I’ve seen Dolan pay big tax bills for trash teams. The last thing I’d ever think was going to stop our pursuit of a trophy was money.

But I have a coworker who’s friends with someone in the Knicks organization & he told him they traded IQ b/c they weren’t going to be able to pay him. Who knows if that guys was just doing MSG spin though

Keep Randle. Re-sign OG & Hartenstein. Go to war while we can b/c anything can happen

On IQ, I think that is more about the second apron numbers and losing flexibility to team build than Dolan's budget being limited per se. @Richard2222?

I replied without reading further down and seeing this correct and succinct answer.

[dakomish23]

I’ve seen Dolan pay big tax bills for trash teams. The last thing I’d ever think was going to stop our pursuit of a trophy was money.

But I have a coworker who’s friends with someone in the Knicks organization & he told him they traded IQ b/c they weren’t going to be able to pay him. Who knows if that guys was just doing MSG spin though

Keep Randle. Re-sign OG & Hartenstein. Go to war while we can b/c anything can happen

There's "weren't going to be able to pay him" and there's "not willing to pay him what the expected amount is going to be in the open market, while the team tries to maintain future flexibility"

Pretty sure it was the latter.

I'm just passing the message along. I don't believe it. They don't GAF about tax bills