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Post#161 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jun 5, 2024 11:17 pm

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Jeffrey wrote:Lets say it's Randle for Lauri or Bridges... why are we attaching so many picks like he is Tobias Harris. Randle was performing at All-Star level until that freak injury. The disrespect around the NBA, media and fans on Randle is ridiculous.

1. He is a 2x All-NBA player
2. He is averages 25/10
3. He is a willing passer
4. His contract is at a great value especially this offseason where teams need to start to make hard decisions about the aprons

So again... why do we have to drop multiple FRPs and assets?!


The trades that people propose on this board routinely boggle the mind. They really do.


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Post#162 » by spree8 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:02 am

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But the owner just said they’re basically gunna start rebuilding. Seems they’re back-pedaling & bluffing to drive the price up after Joe did that.
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Post#163 » by F N 11 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:17 am

Nets holding into Mikal instead of full blown rebuild is such little brother syndrome.
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Post#164 » by newyorker4ever » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:21 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
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now we can finally stop these terrible bridges trade ideas that people keep posting everyday

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Post#165 » by lloydj » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:26 am

[quote="mpharris36"][quote="lloydj"][quote="DaGawd"]
giddy can play 1 position. He doesn’t defend well enough to shoot well enough to be anything other than a distributer[/quote]


Giddy is 22 year old, 6' 8" 203 lbs. and just what we need in a distributing Point-Shooting Guard or Point-Small Forward (Three position player). Bojan Bogdanovic was a not good defender either and will not be on this team next season. The last time I saw Giddy in New York, he lite the Knicks up 16 points, 13 rebounds, 12 assists and 2 blocks. Giddy can start or come of the bench for this team, when called upon.[/quote]


no[/quote]

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Post#166 » by DaGawd » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:30 am

F N 11 wrote:Nets holding into Mikal instead of full blown rebuild is such little brother syndrome.

i think they genuinely just have no clue what they’re doing
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Post#167 » by The Vo Show » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:31 am

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F N 11 wrote:Nets holding into Mikal instead of full blown rebuild is such little brother syndrome.

i think they genuinely just have no clue what they’re doing


I don't see a reason for them to full blown tank when they don't have their own picks. They might as well try to build a team around a star if they can land one and use Mikal as the high value support player he is.
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Post#168 » by god shammgod » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:41 am

Even if they decide to trade Mikal, the obvious place to trade him is Houston where they can regain some control over their own draft. We ain’t getting him.
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Post#169 » by DaGawd » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:44 am

god shammgod wrote:Even if they decide to trade Mikal, the obvious place to trade him is Houston where they can regain some control over their own draft. We ain’t getting him.

agreed, which is why i said it was over from the beginning when the rockets expressed heavy interest. that’s the one team the nets should jump at trading him to, yet they’re resisting according to reports
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Post#170 » by F N 11 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 12:56 am

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DaGawd wrote:
F N 11 wrote:Nets holding into Mikal instead of full blown rebuild is such little brother syndrome.

i think they genuinely just have no clue what they’re doing


I don't see a reason for them to full blown tank when they don't have their own picks. They might as well try to build a team around a star if they can land one and use Mikal as the high value support player he is.

Good point, can’t even lie.
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Post#171 » by spree8 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 1:07 am

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god shammgod wrote:Even if they decide to trade Mikal, the obvious place to trade him is Houston where they can regain some control over their own draft. We ain’t getting him.

agreed, which is why i said it was over from the beginning when the rockets expressed heavy interest. that’s the one team the nets should jump at trading him to, yet they’re resisting according to reports


Seems they’re not interested in Mikal, just the Sun’s picks.

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Post#172 » by HarthorneWingo » Thu Jun 6, 2024 1:12 am

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Post#173 » by KnicksGadfly » Thu Jun 6, 2024 1:28 am

Can't assume the Nets are being rational with Mikal. They're in such a deep hole, their only hope is to "Ainge" someone.
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Post#174 » by WargamesX » Thu Jun 6, 2024 1:40 am

F N 11 wrote:
The Vo Show wrote:
DaGawd wrote:i think they genuinely just have no clue what they’re doing


I don't see a reason for them to full blown tank when they don't have their own picks. They might as well try to build a team around a star if they can land one and use Mikal as the high value support player he is.

Good point, can’t even lie.


Didn’t the Rockets say “we will give you back your picks including #3 this year for Mikal and the Suns picks” or something similar? They can absolutely tank but they just don’t want too.
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Post#175 » by Synciere » Thu Jun 6, 2024 3:55 am

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F N 11 wrote:Nets holding into Mikal instead of full blown rebuild is such little brother syndrome.

i think they genuinely just have no clue what they’re doing


Come on. 95% of teams would probably rather have Bridges than the 3 pick. Nets get worse and have no control of their picks. There’s no incentive to do that for them. Looks like a sound decision to me.
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Post#176 » by Knicksfan1992 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 4:29 am

Synciere wrote:
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F N 11 wrote:Nets holding into Mikal instead of full blown rebuild is such little brother syndrome.

i think they genuinely just have no clue what they’re doing


Come on. 95% of teams would probably rather have Bridges than the 3 pick. Nets get worse and have no control of their picks. There’s no incentive to do that for them. Looks like a sound decision to me.


Yeah I don't think the 3 pick in a historically weak top of draft really moves the needle for me either. The Nets also need to sell tickets... Not saying Bridges does that but they are a helluva lot more competitive with him than without him.

Now if the Rockets are willing to include Jabari or Jalen then that package gets intriguing if I'm the Nets.

My guess is the Nets go hard after one of the guards on the market this summer. If they strike out, then they'll run it back and maybe Bridges becomes more available at the deadline after they inevitably suck again with this core
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Post#177 » by Knicks218 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 9:49 am

If we don't get Mikal Bridges what about Jerami Grant?
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Post#178 » by Richard4444 » Thu Jun 6, 2024 10:56 am

Jeffrey wrote:
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KnixinSix wrote:Bobby Marks was on with CP.... think the biggest thing Marks said was Bojan is basically useless as a contract once OG and Ihart are signed and the draft picks are used...

Basically reiterating the Knicks have to make a move if they want to before OG and Ihart become official..

Knicks can wait to make them official to buy them some time to use Bojan, if he agrees to push back the guarantee date..

Another thing, they basically have to make a decision on trading Mitch BEFORE coming to an agreement with Ihart, now he is CAA so that should help..

Next 3 weeks are going to be interesting. Its likely going to heat up quickly right after finals.


Timing is not an issue.

Because if we make a trade aggregating salary before re-signing IHart and OG, we will be hard-capped in the second apron.

In any scenario, we can not surpass the second apron if we plan to aggregate salaries in a trade.


So you're saying that even if we tell iHart and OG to hold off on signing extensions and Bojan moving his deadline date.. we can't fit the MLE? I figured that's what he meant by timing issue. I think we all know that we will be hitting the aprons once we get OG and iHart to sign extensions.


Yes.

We get hard capped on the first apron IF we use the MLE or the BAE or getting more money in a trade and hard capped in the second apron if we are aggreegating salary in a trade or using the tax MLE.
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Post#179 » by HopelessKnick » Thu Jun 6, 2024 11:41 am

Knicks218 wrote:If we don't get Mikal Bridges what about Jerami Grant?


I like Grant, suggested him in the past and think he would fit on the court---there are however a couple problems:

1. I highly doubt the FO likes his contract. If you have followed the recent stuff about the new CBA, first and second Apron and the punitive nature of violating these then EVERY single contract on your payroll matters. Grant is somewhat overpaid by probably around 6-7 million a year. He recently signed a 5years/160mill. contract extension. He is probably worth around 5years/120mill. You can already see how difficult it is to improve the roster despite all our contract being pretty reasonable. I highly doubt the FO would be willing to trade for that contract. The other problem is we can't really aggregate the Bojan contract so you'd essentially have to include Mitch + DD or Hart which is not going to happen.

2. He left winning situations in the past for a bigger role and more shots. He was willing to go to the league's worst team in Detroit to average 20points. I don't think he would be very fond of coming off the bench in NY and be a 3rd/4th option.

I think the likelihood for Grant to end up in NY is close to zero.
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Post#180 » by HopelessKnick » Thu Jun 6, 2024 11:50 am

My feeling, from reading everything Knick related along with trade rumors etc. you can roughly stick by the following:

1. If the Knicks trade for a non-star player but starter or significant bench player they will likely use Bojan and picks. As a conclusion, the incoming contract would have to be in the 15mill-23mill. range approximately I believe (Bojan makes 19mill.).

2. If the opportunity for a star trade comes up, meaning the incoming contract would be at least 30mill.+ but more likely 40mill.+ then that incoming guy must be so good that the Knicks would be willing to give up Randle, or even Randle and Mitch. This is assuming--which most of us do--that Brunson, DD, Hart, OG and most likely Hartenstein are the 5 guys the FO prioritizes to stay here. Possibly Deuce too.

I personally think scenario one is much more likely. With the new CBA I believe the Knicks are looking at what impact player the can get that makes around 20mill. a year using Bojan and picks or possibly Mitch and picks.

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