iHart expected to sign with OKC 3/$87

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As a defender of other centers Mitch>>>iHart. If we can replace iHart with a center who can stretch the floor, akin to Lopez, we should go that direction. Otherwise, Precious replacing iHart on the depth chart is not the end of the world.

[SARGO127]

If we don’t sign iHart, what exceptions will we have available to sign a C?

Might make more sense to sign 2 centers instead of iHart - two of Goga, Drummond, Jalen Smith, Jonas V.. even K Love as 4th big

Brunson - McBride - Kolek
Bridges - DDV - McCullar
OG - Hart - Pacome (GLeague or Intl)
Randle - Hart - Smith
Mitch - Goga - Smith

[FrozenEnvelope]

If we lose iHart, I'd look strongly at Goga or Bamba. If we want a vet, Drummond.

[sol537]

If we lose iHart, I'd look strongly at Goga or Bamba. If we want a vet, Drummond.

Goga looks stick thin... Bamba is a bust.... waste of a spot. Drummond I guess as a vet min innings eater type player is OK, I guess.

Mitch / Drummond / Precious rotation and then look to upgrade at the deadline...

[SARGO127]

Drummond fits the mold as a former big East player

[FrozenEnvelope]

If we lose iHart, I'd look strongly at Goga or Bamba. If we want a vet, Drummond.

Goga looks stick thin... Bamba is a bust.... waste of a spot. Drummond I guess as a vet min innings eater type player is OK, I guess.

Mitch / Drummond / Precious rotation and then look to upgrade at the deadline...

Goga and Bamba are still young and we've done a decent job of developing so I'm under the hope this coaching staff would get the most out of them.

[Moose]

As a defender of other centers Mitch>>>iHart. If we can replace iHart with a center who can stretch the floor, akin to Lopez, we should go that direction. Otherwise, Precious replacing iHart on the depth chart is not the end of the world.

I think Thibs likes centers in the mold of iHart who can move the ball and score around the basket and hit the glass on offense, but not necessarily those who stretch the floor.

I do think if iHart isn't back, we will see some Randle at the 5 this season.

And we may see that anyway even if iHart is back with the team.

[Context]

What replacements for Hartenstein would you target?

Deandre Ayton, Jonas Valucinas, Steven Adams, Jakob Poetl, Wendell Carter Jr, Brook Lopez, Ivica Zubac, Kevon Looney. Idk if these guys work cap wise but they I think their teams are making those players available so I would prob target them

Steven Adams would be a great get and Memphis appears ready to move in another direction with the selection of Edey. Adams makes $12.6M this season.

Adams was traded to the rockets last season...

[kNicksGmen]

we could always change our offense - but thibs offense other than just pure iso is very much a dribble hand off offense with a big. Mitch's hands are so bad we can barely execute this. Ihart was amazing in this role.

I hope if we do get a big it's not a drummond type that can't pass.

with that said, I would hope thibs does tweak the offense now that we have a bridges. we can get more creative with off ball stuff and pin downs etc - even though that has never been what thibs likes to do. we'll prob just use Randle more in that role.

people seemingly forget how much better this offense was with ihart. we can debate defensively but offensively he unlocked things for our offense. losing him will be tough and bringing in a drummond type or keeping precious is a huge downgrade/change.

i like Valanciunas but unsure we can afford him. sets good screens, good hands, good passer, good post up game and can stretch. defense isn't great but can protect the rim a bit. i've heard fans mention him a lot but no "insiders" so assume it's not really a possibility.

[WaltFrazier]

Losing Ihart is gonna suck. Since we drafted Kolek, I would use Deuce as a way to try to get a solid Ihart replacement.

What replacements for Hartenstein would you target?

Deandre Ayton, Jonas Valucinas, Steven Adams, Jakob Poetl, Wendell Carter Jr, Brook Lopez, Ivica Zubac, Kevon Looney. Idk if these guys work cap wise but they I think their teams are making those players available so I would prob target them

I assume Ayton would be too expensive. And he doesn't have the best reputation for toughness. But watching him play the Knicks in Portland he was hitting foul line jumpers at will. Not a three point shooter but his midrange J would open up the offense

[Context]

The one things that I think is a good indicator that we keep Ihart -its too quiet.

[kNicksGmen]

The one things that I think is a good indicator that we keep Ihart -its too quiet.

i still think both sides are uncertain. knicks are ready to make the moves needed to make sure they have the space to offer ihart the max if he'll take it, while having their other options open.

Ihart is still undecided and will be wined and dined before making a decision. my concern is the timing of things - if it drags on does that hurt the knicks if he does ultimately leave compared to us knowing up front.

still hopeful he returns though. i do think if he was for sure gone it would have been more obvious by now.

[2010]

Deandre Ayton, Jonas Valucinas, Steven Adams, Jakob Poetl, Wendell Carter Jr, Brook Lopez, Ivica Zubac, Kevon Looney. Idk if these guys work cap wise but they I think their teams are making those players available so I would prob target them

Steven Adams would be a great get and Memphis appears ready to move in another direction with the selection of Edey. Adams makes $12.6M this season.

Adams was traded to the rockets last season...

Good catch!

[3toheadmelo]

What replacements for Hartenstein would you target?

Deandre Ayton, Jonas Valucinas, Steven Adams, Jakob Poetl, Wendell Carter Jr, Brook Lopez, Ivica Zubac, Kevon Looney. Idk if these guys work cap wise but they I think their teams are making those players available so I would prob target them

I assume Ayton would be too expensive. And he doesn't have the best reputation for toughness. But watching him play the Knicks in Portland he was hitting foul line jumpers at will. Not a three point shooter but his midrange J would open up the offense

yeah thats why i said idk if this would work out cap wise. probably not. but ayton is pretty good when he's involved in the offense. he averaged 22.7 ppg 12.5 RPG post all star break. one thing to note though, him and mikal are really close to each other. good chemistry boost.

doubt we get him though. we are prob gonna get a cheap center.

[robillionaire]

The one things that I think is a good indicator that we keep Ihart -its too quiet.

i still think both sides are uncertain. knicks are ready to make the moves needed to make sure they have the space to offer ihart the max if he'll take it, while having their other options open.

Ihart is still undecided and will be wined and dined before making a decision. my concern is the timing of things - if it drags on does that hurt the knicks if he does ultimately leave compared to us knowing up front.

still hopeful he returns though. i do think if he was for sure gone it would have been more obvious by now.

We may be desperately trying to find a trade partner to take Mitch and make room for him and not finding any takers. I guess we will find out by Sunday when free agency starts. I think the Knicks absolutely want to keep him though

[Context]

The one things that I think is a good indicator that we keep Ihart -its too quiet.

i still think both sides are uncertain. knicks are ready to make the moves needed to make sure they have the space to offer ihart the max if he'll take it, while having their other options open.

Ihart is still undecided and will be wined and dined before making a decision. my concern is the timing of things - if it drags on does that hurt the knicks if he does ultimately leave compared to us knowing up front.

still hopeful he returns though. i do think if he was for sure gone it would have been more obvious by now.

I respectfully disagree. At this point the Knicks know and Ihart knows. You can't make all of these moves and not know.
The Knicks have proven that they are not that type of organization.

[NYKinMIA]

Watch on YouTube

I'm holding out hope that what Popper says might could happen.

"wink wink deal"

[sol537]

2 year $35m deal with 2nd year player option and trade kicker.

[spree8]

He stays

[WargamesX]

The one things that I think is a good indicator that we keep Ihart -its too quiet.

i still think both sides are uncertain. knicks are ready to make the moves needed to make sure they have the space to offer ihart the max if he'll take it, while having their other options open.

Ihart is still undecided and will be wined and dined before making a decision. my concern is the timing of things - if it drags on does that hurt the knicks if he does ultimately leave compared to us knowing up front.

still hopeful he returns though. i do think if he was for sure gone it would have been more obvious by now.

I respectfully disagree. At this point the Knicks know and Ihart knows. You can't make all of these moves and not know.
The Knicks have proven that they are not that type of organization.

Yeah the issue is they can’t officially open up the room for IHart until they S&T a player with Bojan to the Nets in order to open the cap space to the 2nd apron.

They can all be agreed on in principle, but I am pretty sure they would get hit with a tampering charge if they attempted to do a S&T before the official start of the offseason.

If they did the trade now it would mean that the Nets were talking to the player that was signed to them before the beginning of the offseason. Even if it’s a situation where the Knicks were the ones really doing the talking and the player agreed because the money was good.

The Knicks have a few players too, they can do this with so the issue would be which one wants a guaranteed 4 mil to go to Brooklyn.