PG: KNICKS Z-League Beats Charlotte Starters

[mpharris36]

Really well said J-Man! Kind of like the Popovich teams in their hey-day....

The Spurs were one of the teams that came to mind when I mentioned that. That's one example along with Miami, who have managed to turn minimum contract players into valuable contributors seemingly since Spoelstra got there.

What Leon has done has done a great job building out the organization and presiding of the team.

From poaching Aller from the Cavs for cap/trade dynamics

From poaching Perrin from the Jazz (who consistently got value out of there late 1st round picks and 2nd rounders).

Obviously the Brunson connection trumps all but those two FO acquisitions have been massive to the org.

Yeah, the FO revamp from top to bottom has been massive. Rose also seems to have set up some clear hierarchies. It doesn't feel like there are different disputing factions in the Knicks' FO any more.We've come a long way from conspiracy theories about Steve Mills or Scott Perry sabotaging each other in a power-struggle.

yeah seems to be a lot of different voices which is a good thing but can be tricky to navigate and Leon has done a good job of setting up the hierarchies to put people in places they are successful in.

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Keep Precious and add Sims and McCullar to the Mitch trade.

I think Sims is treated like a minimum deal so he can't be aggregated with anyone.

[JayTWill]

When it took so long for Precious to be re-signed and he was only given a 1 year deal with the no trade clause waived I assumed he wasn't a part of the original off-season plan and he would just be potential trade filler after Dec. 15th. With the lack of depth at the 4/5 and KAT in place of Randle he is probably a better fit with better value to the team now but I still wonder how much Thibs truly values him on the roster.

Thibs had a pretty quick hook with him at times last January but when the injuries started piling up he and Hart were playing 40+ minutes in February. Hart's minutes continued to be high while Precious was down to the low teens/single digits by the end of the year and he was getting DNPs by the postseason before the team started breaking down further.

I'm curious to see if he will have a more consistent role this year and if the team plans on keeping him around.

I think he fits better as a starter than Josh Hart. He brings everything Hart does to the starting lineup. We don't really need Hart's ball movement and fast break starting abilities on the starting lineup but we need his rebounding. Precious can do the rebounding and have more size to guard 4s/5s. This will also probably (hopefully?) keep OG from getting injured.

Yeah, in theory I can definitely see the value of possibly swapping Precious' size and Hart's skillet but it's hard for me to forget that Thibs was playing Josh the full 48 or even 53 minutes in some playoff games while Precious was collecting DNPs in those same games. I was one of many who thought Precious had entered the Thibs trust circle but clearly he trusts Hart far more than he does Precious.

[Tron Carter]

At least we have an excuse of it being our teams first game together, your top 5 lottery squad has been mid for years now, worry less about us and more about your 5 year $203 million player being more of an impact at intersections than he is on the court.

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[sol537]

When it took so long for Precious to be re-signed and he was only given a 1 year deal with the no trade clause waived I assumed he wasn't a part of the original off-season plan and he would just be potential trade filler after Dec. 15th. With the lack of depth at the 4/5 and KAT in place of Randle he is probably a better fit with better value to the team now but I still wonder how much Thibs truly values him on the roster.

Thibs had a pretty quick hook with him at times last January but when the injuries started piling up he and Hart were playing 40+ minutes in February. Hart's minutes continued to be high while Precious was down to the low teens/single digits by the end of the year and he was getting DNPs by the postseason before the team started breaking down further.

I'm curious to see if he will have a more consistent role this year and if the team plans on keeping him around.

I think he fits better as a starter than Josh Hart. He brings everything Hart does to the starting lineup. We don't really need Hart's ball movement and fast break starting abilities on the starting lineup but we need his rebounding. Precious can do the rebounding and have more size to guard 4s/5s. This will also probably (hopefully?) keep OG from getting injured.

Yeah, in theory I can definitely see the value of possibly swapping Precious' size and Hart's skillet but it's hard for me to forget that Thibs was playing Josh the full 48 or even 53 minutes in some playoff games while Precious was collecting DNPs in those same games. I was one of many who thought Precious had entered the Thibs trust circle but clearly he trusts Hart far more than he does Precious.

I like Precious in the starting line-up and Hart in the finishing line-up... Precious gives us more height, let's KAT not have to do all the dirty work down low, always seems to excel playing with OG, and let's Hart be the anchor off the bench (6MOY type). It's like when the Spurs would start Splitter and bring Manu off the bench.

Not a huge deal, however. Precious, Warren(?), McBride and Payne off the bench is pretty solid and nearly as good as any teams' bench IMO.

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[Moose]

I think he fits better as a starter than Josh Hart. He brings everything Hart does to the starting lineup. We don't really need Hart's ball movement and fast break starting abilities on the starting lineup but we need his rebounding. Precious can do the rebounding and have more size to guard 4s/5s. This will also probably (hopefully?) keep OG from getting injured.

Yeah, in theory I can definitely see the value of possibly swapping Precious' size and Hart's skillet but it's hard for me to forget that Thibs was playing Josh the full 48 or even 53 minutes in some playoff games while Precious was collecting DNPs in those same games. I was one of many who thought Precious had entered the Thibs trust circle but clearly he trusts Hart far more than he does Precious.

I like Precious in the starting line-up and Hart in the finishing line-up... Precious gives us more height, let's KAT not have to do all the dirty work down low, always seems to excel playing with OG, and let's Hart be the anchor off the bench (6MOY type). It's like when the Spurs would start Splitter and bring Manu off the bench.

Not a huge deal, however. Precious, Warren(?), McBride and Payne off the bench is pretty solid and nearly as good as any teams' bench IMO.

Precious is our only useful big off the bench, which may be a problem with starting him next to Towns.

I'm not sure Hart fits in the starting lineup, however

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Keep Precious and add Sims and McCullar to the Mitch trade.

I think Sims is treated like a minimum deal so he can't be aggregated with anyone.

There’s a window that you can aggregate minimum salaries and we’re just not in it yet. It actually might be December 15th, the same day you can trade guys you signed this summer.

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Disagree with the Strickland guys here. Kolek made the right decision. Corner 3 > above the break 3.

[sol537]

Maybe... maybe it makes sense to ride the season out with the current roster. Just add a Shamet replacement and go from there. The kids look ready to step in if there are any injuries.

Playoff set up ->

Start: KAT, Hart, OG, Bridges, Brunson
Bench: Precious (until Mitch returns), McBride, Payne

Pretty... pretty... pretty goooooood.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

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His ability to relocate stood out last night, on the 4 point play he drifted from the corner to the wing while Kolek was driving which made Taj help on Kolek and as soon as he did that Pac cut back to the corner and Kolek found him.


Normally these performances wouldn't mean much, but the fact it was against most of the Hornets actual rotation is a great sign. All 3 of the rookies outplayed their counterparts that have actual NBA minutes.

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[NoDopeOnSundays]

The Westchester Knicks just got a lot more interesting, I expect Kolek and Pac to be there a decent amount of time, Huk maybe but with the lack of C depth he may stay with the main team.


Will definitely catch some games.

[mpharris36]

The Westchester Knicks just got a lot more interesting, I expect Kolek and Pac to be there a decent amount of time, Huk maybe but with the lack of C depth he may stay with the main team.


Will definitely catch some games.

I think they will play shuttle between teams...maybe more Pac than anyone else.

Kolek and Huk I feel are foul trouble or an injury away from playing. So they will have to be with the team on most nights.

[Guano]

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Disagree with the Strickland guys here. Kolek made the right decision. Corner 3 > above the break 3.

jHart also approves.

In seriousness I get what they're saying it's hard to get two clean looks in a possession. I'm just super impressed with a pac getting in a position to make himself available. Savvy sht from a kid.

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His ability to relocate stood out last night, on the 4 point play he drifted from the corner to the wing while Kolek was driving which made Taj help on Kolek and as soon as he did that Pac cut back to the corner and Kolek found him.


Normally these performances wouldn't mean much, but the fact it was against most of the Hornets actual rotation is a great sign. All 3 of the rookies outplayed their counterparts that have actual NBA minutes.

He hadnt shown much of anything. So its nice to not have to chalk up a shtty performance cause he is too young or having a hard time adjusting to the US.

He looks like an nba player and he showed out a lil. Far exceeding expectations. Its nice to have a rook in that spot.

[Guano]

It's cool eve was courtside last night