PG: The hair foul game

DaGawd · Post #161 » by **DaGawd** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:36 am

3toheadmelo wrote:

Read on Twitter

you really made me think this was recent mf

GettinitDone · Post #162 » by **GettinitDone** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:36 am

My stream was **** most of the game except this part

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The KnicksFix · Post #163 » by **The KnicksFix** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:37 am

This game comes down to Mikal’s defense. Period

Buttah304 · Post #164 » by **Buttah304** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:39 am

If there is one other game that’s gonna make us lose our minds is Utah at the end of the month. It’s not gonna matter if they are still 15th in West. Saturday game at 5pm. They will hit 22 threes and most likely open the 1st Q with a 40 spot.

The KnicksFix · Post #165 » by **The KnicksFix** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:39 am

KAT is absolutely dominant, my god, every time that dood touch the rock i feel like its going in

The KnicksFix · Post #166 » by **The KnicksFix** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:40 am

The memo is out against the Knicks, spam 3’s… they can’t guard it

3toheadmelo · Post #167 » by **3toheadmelo** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:41 am

DaGawd wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:

Read on Twitter

you really made me think this was recent mf

Clyde_Style · Post #168 » by **Clyde_Style** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:42 am

Even my nipples are salty after this one

Context · Post #169 » by **Context** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:42 am

Synciere wrote:
Context wrote:
Synciere wrote:
It’s not about trusting just anybody and playing them like that’s what’s going to lead to wins. Pac playing ten minutes this game doesn’t ensure victory today or in the future.

The issue is we lost iHart to free agency, Mitch and Precious to injury, Julius and Donte to trade, and we only got back Towns. We lost four veteran rotation players, and we didn’t/don’t have the money to replace them.

Ihart is gone- never coming back but our players are here and we can play them- and if we dont and we continue to play these starters heavy minutes they will fall apart during the season and in the play-offs -as they did last season.
those "issues" are in the "past" - we have control over minutes for our current players...

Yes we have control over their minutes, but not the outcomes of those minutes. There are reasons most experienced coaches with winning teams don’t play rookies and young players except the top 3 picks or whatever. Look at every contender this year and you’ll see either no rookies or one rookie in their rotations. The Nuggets went from everyone thinking they’re a dynasty to getting knocked out in the second round after losing guys like Bruce Brown and KCP. Thibs (rightfully) doesn’t trust guys like Kolek, Pac, and Huk yet. Payne and Sims are minimum players. We can play them but it won’t lead to wins.

whether we win or not doesn't matter...we need to preserve our current starters...If even one of those guys goes down-- this season will be wasted(outside of chemistry). We don't have the luxury to not play our rookies. When Precious comes back that will give us more flexibility.
Today we are playing a dangerous game with our main 6 and none of those guys can go down...

Besides...the rookies that don't play because they don't guarantee wins- we're losing games as a direct result of these extended starter minutes- so we might as well play them...

Post #170 » by **mpharris36** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:43 am

HEZI wrote:I’m sure Leon Rose will make another move or two to help with some depth. Bench is not good and nobody that is available to play would help much. Sims really sucks, Ryan kinda sucks too. Achiuwa and Robinson are hurt. So no real backup wings or bigs at the moment.

At least they showed resiliency but still no excuse for some of that laziness and poor decision making in the 1st half. They know they can be better

my overall concern level is not that high

there were always going to be growing pains. We have had some blown leads in the 4th and then this loss with a bad "foul" and then brunson missing a shot that way 90% down.

I would rather be struggling early in the year. And our NET rating is still top 10 in the league. When we start clicking on all cylinders we will be a top 5 NET rating team.

Now the thing that can completely derail is if Thibs runs there guys into the ground (injury) before playoffs.

Context · Post #171 » by **Context** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:45 am

The KnicksFix wrote:
Synciere wrote:
Context wrote:Ihart is gone- never coming back but our players are here and we can play them- and if we dont and we continue to play these starters heavy minutes they will fall apart during the season and in the play-offs -as they did last season.
those "issues" are in the "past" - we have control over minutes for our current players...

Yes we have control over their minutes, but not the outcomes of those minutes. There are reasons most experienced coaches with winning teams don’t play rookies and young players except the top 3 picks or whatever. Look at every contender this year and you’ll see either no rookies or one rookie in their rotations. The Nuggets went from everyone thinking they’re a dynasty to getting knocked out in the second round after losing guys like Bruce Brown and KCP. Thibs (rightfully) doesn’t trust guys like Kolek, Pac, and Huk yet. Payne and Sims are minimum players. We can play them but it won’t lead to wins.

If you dont want to play dadiet, fine. But there is absolutely no reason why Hukporti doesn’t get to play, yet Sims loses the ball off his fingertips at least once a game.

2000% thats where Thibs shows his lack of growth...Everybody knows sims is just a big body...

sol537 · Post #172 » by **sol537** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:46 am

mpharris36 wrote:Now the thing that can completely derail is if Thibs runs there guys into the ground (injury) before playoffs.

He's playing hopscotch at the edge of the cliff... one slip up and...oof

stuporman · Post #173 » by **stuporman** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:46 am

The KnicksFix wrote:
stuporman wrote:Just watched the last 3 mins of the game and I'm more ticked about the call on Brunson, he intercepted the ball so he's in possession of it, if there's a foul it's on the Bulls players running into him not the other way around.

At least it should be a loose ball and Brunson has as much of a right to try to get the ball as the Bulls player so it's not a default that any contact is a foul on him.

The hair foul sucked but if touching a player taking a jump shot is a foul there's a dozen a game on Brunson that are never called. The inconsistency is despicable when they decide the game with a whistle.

Nasty work by those creep crumb bum refs.

Game doesn’t come down to the last possession. I’m tired of Mikal getting absolutely cooked by opposing wing players or guards. He’s TRASH defensively and a large reason why we were down so much

I think I mentioned more than the last possession so maybe you better read my post again you missed something.

Galvationknicks · Post #174 » by **Galvationknicks** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:50 am

The KnicksFix wrote:
Galvationknicks wrote:
Buttah304 wrote:Historical Data (because why not):

22-23 Season (11 Games)

5-6 Record
O-Rating: 23rd
D-Rating: 19th
Net Rating: 22nd

23-24 Season (11 Games)

6-5 Record
O-Rating: 15th
D-Rating: 5th
Net Rating: 7th

24-25 Season (11 Games)

5-6 Record
O-Rating: 4th
D-Rating: 19th
Net Rating: 8th

Who was not expecting it. Get rdy for the 10 game win streak in December.

It's been like this for years
Thibs gonna Thibs. We saw this last year

We added hart at the deadline one year, then added OG the deadline the next. We dont have anyone else to add this year

Mitch Rob

Galvationknicks · Post #175 » by **Galvationknicks** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:51 am

Context wrote:
The KnicksFix wrote:
Synciere wrote:
Yes we have control over their minutes, but not the outcomes of those minutes. There are reasons most experienced coaches with winning teams don’t play rookies and young players except the top 3 picks or whatever. Look at every contender this year and you’ll see either no rookies or one rookie in their rotations. The Nuggets went from everyone thinking they’re a dynasty to getting knocked out in the second round after losing guys like Bruce Brown and KCP. Thibs (rightfully) doesn’t trust guys like Kolek, Pac, and Huk yet. Payne and Sims are minimum players. We can play them but it won’t lead to wins.

If you dont want to play dadiet, fine. But there is absolutely no reason why Hukporti doesn’t get to play, yet Sims loses the ball off his fingertips at least once a game.

2000% thats where Thibs shows his lack of growth...Everybody knows sims is just a big body...

Hukporti obviously playing like crap in practice
Thibs gonna thibs

dukeknicksirish · Post #176 » by **dukeknicksirish** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:55 am

I need 3 straight wins like I need air

Post #177 » by **Capn'O** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:57 am

Synciere wrote:
Context wrote:
Synciere wrote:
It’s not about trusting just anybody and playing them like that’s what’s going to lead to wins. Pac playing ten minutes this game doesn’t ensure victory today or in the future.

The issue is we lost iHart to free agency, Mitch and Precious to injury, Julius and Donte to trade, and we only got back Towns. We lost four veteran rotation players, and we didn’t/don’t have the money to replace them.

Ihart is gone- never coming back but our players are here and we can play them- and if we dont and we continue to play these starters heavy minutes they will fall apart during the season and in the play-offs -as they did last season.
those "issues" are in the "past" - we have control over minutes for our current players...

Yes we have control over their minutes, but not the outcomes of those minutes. There are reasons most experienced coaches with winning teams don’t play rookies and young players except the top 3 picks or whatever. Look at every contender this year and you’ll see either no rookies or one rookie in their rotations. The Nuggets went from everyone thinking they’re a dynasty to getting knocked out in the second round after losing guys like Bruce Brown and KCP. Thibs (rightfully) doesn’t trust guys like Kolek, Pac, and Huk yet. Payne and Sims are minimum players. We can play them but it won’t lead to wins.

The idea isn't that the rooks will somehow lead us to wins. The idea is that in the second night of a back to back we have reinforcements to play with some energy and hold down the fort while our main guys conserve for a final push, which was clearly the strategy. Maybe they only go down 14 instead of 22. We saw Indy do this with God knows who on the floor the other night. The Thunder do it all the time. The league leading Cavs manage minutes like that. Heck, even the Bulls got some good minutes out of Julian Phillips tonight.

When you're shorthanded it's next man up.

Buttah304 · Post #178 » by **Buttah304** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 4:59 am

I’m not the type to bring up the cost it took to get Mikal - I see that repeated ad nauseam daily.

Having said that, the ideal scenario would have been him providing an impact akin to 2018-2021 Khris Middleton. The reality is he’s nowhere close to that level of talent.

Post #179 » by **Capn'O** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:02 am

In any event, this is why I was distraught that we had to move KBD in the Towns trade. Not because he's anything great but he's a warm body that can eat minutes at the 3/4 in case of injury and someone who Thibs might actually trust.

The KnicksFix · Post #180 » by **The KnicksFix** » Thu Nov 14, 2024 5:05 am

Buttah304 wrote:I’m not the type to bring up the cost it took to get Mikal - I see that repeated ad nauseam daily.

Having said that, the ideal scenario would have been him providing an impact akin to 2018-2021 Khris Middleton. The reality is he’s nowhere close to that level of talent.

I feel like he came around at the end of that game, his defense started to pick up, but his consistency on the defensive end is lacking. I’m screaming at my TV for him to fight thru screens and actually try