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Re: PG: That Sucked 

Post#161 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Dec 8, 2024 1:45 pm

knicks94 wrote:I would like to ask Bridges why he allows players to abuse him on the offensive end.

In the full quote he says it starts with him being terrible on defense so he at least acknowledges he’s trash
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Re: PG: That Sucked 

Post#162 » by R-DAWG » Sun Dec 8, 2024 1:48 pm

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HEZI wrote:Boston gave up 120 to this very same team just a few nights ago. They let them shoot 20-39 from 3. We gave up 18-36 to them from three. Difference is Boston scored 130 and we scored 111. Boston is also getting torched by Memphis as we speak.

But yes sure it’s Thibs and scheme lmao. If we shoot better and make some free throws, we win even without KAT and our poor defenders.


Then the problem isn't Thibs and it's the talent. Either way the team is mid.

Oh well, maybe next year.


It’s a real problem when you give up all your future picks and the talent isn’t good enough.

Look - OG and Mikal are who they are. There are nights when they can get theirs, but you shouldn’t rely on them to produce on a nightly basis. The bigger issue is outside of Brunson no one can create a shot.

And people keep saying we need to see more out of Mikal - but outside of shooting 32% from 3 vs a career average of 37% - he’s been the guy he’s been his entire career. And if you break it down the extra 5% on his 3’s would be like an extra point per game. He is who he is.

I think we might need to think about calling the Houston Rockets and seeing if we can get 3/5 picks we traded for Mikal back and use the salary slot for a dude like Malcolm Brodgon.
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Re: PG: That Sucked 

Post#163 » by Fat Kat » Sun Dec 8, 2024 1:51 pm

knicks94 wrote:I would like to ask Bridges why he allows players to abuse him on the offensive end.


Him having no personal fouls is an indication that he’s not playing hard enough. He needs to push the limits and get physical
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Post#164 » by ctorres » Sun Dec 8, 2024 1:55 pm

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oldshoolballer wrote:Thibs mismanagement of players minutes strikes again. Only a matter of time before the injuries start piling up. It's honestly one of the dumbest things I've ever seen in pro sports.



We have 2 players in the top 5, 3 in the top 10 :lol:



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People still defend this as though we're the only team dealing with injuries and like we didn't completely fall apart last season.


OG in the top 10 is a fireable offense :noway:




If the Cavs win it all this year and the Knicks let go Thibs. I think the Knicks will target a coach who cap the starters at 30-32 mpg. It seems to be a main part of the Cavs' winning formula this season.
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Re: PG: That Sucked 

Post#165 » by ctorres » Sun Dec 8, 2024 1:56 pm

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knicks94 wrote:I would like to ask Bridges why he allows players to abuse him on the offensive end.


Him having no personal fouls is an indication that he’s not playing hard enough. He needs to push the limits and get physical


Thibs is trying to keep him on the floor for 38+ mpg. He doesn't want him to foul.
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Re: PG: That Sucked 

Post#166 » by Fat Kat » Sun Dec 8, 2024 2:02 pm

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knicks94 wrote:I would like to ask Bridges why he allows players to abuse him on the offensive end.


Him having no personal fouls is an indication that he’s not playing hard enough. He needs to push the limits and get physical


Thibs is trying to keep him on the floor for 38+ mpg. He doesn't want him to foul.


Nah. Thibs wants his players to defend physically, but he doesn’t have to foul out to make the offense feel him.

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Post#167 » by HEZI » Sun Dec 8, 2024 2:49 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:
HEZI wrote:Boston gave up 120 to this very same team just a few nights ago. They let them shoot 20-39 from 3. We gave up 18-36 to them from three. Difference is Boston scored 130 and we scored 111. Boston is also getting torched by Memphis as we speak.

But yes sure it’s Thibs and scheme lmao. If we shoot better and make some free throws, we win even without KAT and our poor defenders.


Then the problem isn't Thibs and it's the talent. Either way the team is mid.

Oh well, maybe next year.


It’s a real problem when you give up all your future picks and the talent isn’t good enough.

Look - OG and Mikal are who they are. There are nights when they can get theirs, but you shouldn’t rely on them to produce on a nightly basis. The bigger issue is outside of Brunson no one can create a shot.

And people keep saying we need to see more out of Mikal - but outside of shooting 32% from 3 vs a career average of 37% - he’s been the guy he’s been his entire career. And if you break it down the extra 5% on his 3’s would be like an extra point per game. He is who he is.

I think we might need to think about calling the Houston Rockets and seeing if we can get 3/5 picks we traded for Mikal back and use the salary slot for a dude like Malcolm Brodgon.


He’s taken that Jerami Grant route where he was ideal as a 3D role player but wanted to become more offensive minded and focus on scoring. Which is cool if you really have grown into an elite scorer but he hasn’t. His ball handling is very shaky, he has little to no ability to create separation and now even his shot selection is suspect at times. Out of all of our starters he’s probably been guilty of taking the worst shots and last night was more example of it especially without KAT.

It’s pretty remarkable that our offense has been as good as it has been despite the lack of ball handling in the starting lineup. Most if not all teams feature multiple ball handlers in the lineup.
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Re: PG: That Sucked 

Post#168 » by Fat Kat » Sun Dec 8, 2024 2:59 pm

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Re: PG: That Sucked 

Post#169 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:12 pm

HEZI wrote:
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thebuzzardman wrote:
Then the problem isn't Thibs and it's the talent. Either way the team is mid.

Oh well, maybe next year.


It’s a real problem when you give up all your future picks and the talent isn’t good enough.

Look - OG and Mikal are who they are. There are nights when they can get theirs, but you shouldn’t rely on them to produce on a nightly basis. The bigger issue is outside of Brunson no one can create a shot.

And people keep saying we need to see more out of Mikal - but outside of shooting 32% from 3 vs a career average of 37% - he’s been the guy he’s been his entire career. And if you break it down the extra 5% on his 3’s would be like an extra point per game. He is who he is.

I think we might need to think about calling the Houston Rockets and seeing if we can get 3/5 picks we traded for Mikal back and use the salary slot for a dude like Malcolm Brodgon.


He’s taken that Jerami Grant route where he was ideal as a 3D role player but wanted to become more offensive minded and focus on scoring. Which is cool if you really have grown into an elite scorer but he hasn’t. His ball handling is very shaky, he has little to no ability to create separation and now even his shot selection is suspect at times. Out of all of our starters he’s probably been guilty of taking the worst shots and last night was more example of it especially without KAT.

It’s pretty remarkable that our offense has been as good as it has been despite the lack of ball handling in the starting lineup. Most if not all teams feature multiple ball handlers in the lineup.

All five players are good enough ball handlers. I don’t think any team features that many in their lineups tbh.
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Post#170 » by robillionaire » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:20 pm

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Re: PG: That Sucked 

Post#171 » by robillionaire » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:22 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
HEZI wrote:Boston gave up 120 to this very same team just a few nights ago. They let them shoot 20-39 from 3. We gave up 18-36 to them from three. Difference is Boston scored 130 and we scored 111. Boston is also getting torched by Memphis as we speak.

But yes sure it’s Thibs and scheme lmao. If we shoot better and make some free throws, we win even without KAT and our poor defenders.


Then the problem isn't Thibs and it's the talent. Either way the team is mid.

Oh well, maybe next year.


It’s a real problem when you give up all your future picks and the talent isn’t good enough.

I think we might need to think about calling the Houston Rockets and seeing if we can get 3/5 picks we traded for Mikal back and use the salary slot for a dude like Malcolm Brodgon.



Ouch.

We should have just traded Portland for jrue and put him at the 2 instead of letting him go win chips in Boston

We would have done this but the Knicks employee who scouts this board to find our ideas and steal them chose to listen to nodope and chahell instead
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Post#172 » by HEZI » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:23 pm

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HEZI wrote:
R-DAWG wrote:
It’s a real problem when you give up all your future picks and the talent isn’t good enough.

Look - OG and Mikal are who they are. There are nights when they can get theirs, but you shouldn’t rely on them to produce on a nightly basis. The bigger issue is outside of Brunson no one can create a shot.

And people keep saying we need to see more out of Mikal - but outside of shooting 32% from 3 vs a career average of 37% - he’s been the guy he’s been his entire career. And if you break it down the extra 5% on his 3’s would be like an extra point per game. He is who he is.

I think we might need to think about calling the Houston Rockets and seeing if we can get 3/5 picks we traded for Mikal back and use the salary slot for a dude like Malcolm Brodgon.


He’s taken that Jerami Grant route where he was ideal as a 3D role player but wanted to become more offensive minded and focus on scoring. Which is cool if you really have grown into an elite scorer but he hasn’t. His ball handling is very shaky, he has little to no ability to create separation and now even his shot selection is suspect at times. Out of all of our starters he’s probably been guilty of taking the worst shots and last night was more example of it especially without KAT.

It’s pretty remarkable that our offense has been as good as it has been despite the lack of ball handling in the starting lineup. Most if not all teams feature multiple ball handlers in the lineup.

All five players are good enough ball handlers. I don’t think any team features that many in their lineups tbh.


We have one guy in the starting lineup who can bring the ball up in a full court press. Most teams have guys at the 2 and even 3 or 4 who can function as lead guards in an offense and play make. We don’t
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Re: PG: That Sucked 

Post#173 » by gavran » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:24 pm

This game did not give me a boner.
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Post#174 » by robillionaire » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:25 pm

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So basically the same criticism levied for years against Randle except now the players are admitting it themselves. Hilarious news lol. Cant even blame towns this time as he didn’t play :lol:

In fact “we saw what the defense looked like without towns in that Detroit game” will be in my repertoire moving forward

Greenie, is this shots fired on Brunson??????
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Post#175 » by whocares1 » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:27 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
HEZI wrote:Boston gave up 120 to this very same team just a few nights ago. They let them shoot 20-39 from 3. We gave up 18-36 to them from three. Difference is Boston scored 130 and we scored 111. Boston is also getting torched by Memphis as we speak.

But yes sure it’s Thibs and scheme lmao. If we shoot better and make some free throws, we win even without KAT and our poor defenders.


Then the problem isn't Thibs and it's the talent. Either way the team is mid.

Oh well, maybe next year.


It’s a real problem when you give up all your future picks and the talent isn’t good enough.

Look - OG and Mikal are who they are. There are nights when they can get theirs, but you shouldn’t rely on them to produce on a nightly basis. The bigger issue is outside of Brunson no one can create a shot.

And people keep saying we need to see more out of Mikal - but outside of shooting 32% from 3 vs a career average of 37% - he’s been the guy he’s been his entire career. And if you break it down the extra 5% on his 3’s would be like an extra point per game. He is who he is.

I think we might need to think about calling the Houston Rockets and seeing if we can get 3/5 picks we traded for Mikal back and use the salary slot for a dude like Malcolm Brodgon.


Lol.
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Post#176 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:33 pm

It has become increasingly tiring the bipolar reactions here after wins and losses. We lose, people want to trade Bridges and Hart for Lavine or now Bridges for Brogdon. WTF? This is a good team, there is room to grow and reason to believe they will.
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Post#177 » by Moose » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:35 pm

Some big overreactions here. But I will agree that Bridges' overall play is concerning.

I was hoping the offense would run through him more, especially for this game with no Towns.

I thought he would be our prime Kris Middleton.
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Post#178 » by spree2kawhi » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:37 pm

Moose wrote:Some big overreactions here. But I will agree that Bridges' overall play is concerning.

I was hoping the offense would run through him more, especially for this game with no Towns.

I thought he would be our prime Kris Middleton.

Maybe that’s the problem. Prime Middleton was a top 15 player in the league. We traded them the corpse of Bojan Bogdanovic…
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Post#179 » by knicksNOTslick » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:42 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:It has become increasingly tiring the bipolar reactions here after wins and losses. We lose, people want to trade Bridges and Hart for Lavine or now Bridges for Brogdon. WTF? This is a good team, there is room to grow and reason to believe they will.

People don't realize that making more trades means the team has to adjust again to build chemistry. And by the time they're in their adjustment period, the same people will be complaining that the team isn't doing as well as they should and call for another trade.

This board is unreadable sometimes after losses because of the overreaction.
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Post#180 » by Gravy » Sun Dec 8, 2024 3:48 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:It has become increasingly tiring the bipolar reactions here after wins and losses. We lose, people want to trade Bridges and Hart for Lavine or now Bridges for Brogdon. WTF? This is a good team, there is room to grow and reason to believe they will.

After a win we are the greatest team of all time after a loss we gotta blow it up :lol:

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