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Re: PG: KNICKS Squeak Past The Wiz's 

Post#161 » by stuporman » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:11 pm

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thebuzzardman wrote:I wonder what the Knicks two teammates record is

Kobe 81 Smush 13 = 94

https://www.sports-reference.com/blog/2013/03/best-nba-scoring-duos-in-one-game-mailbag/

Although in reality it has to be if they kept those records back then Wilt 100 + the next guy who scored a single point...


This was posted in 2013 so I’m thinking in the last 11 years some of these records have to be shattered


Yea, that list is wack even given the date when written, I found another one(posted in 2024) that includes a pair of teammates scored more than their top entry that happened well before it was written.

https://www.interbasket.net/news/how-many-nba-teammates-have-scored-at-least-40-points-in-same-game/39361/

Although, this isn't a complete list because it's a list of teammates who have both scored 40 points in a game. Look at this other list that has the top two teammates scoring average. There had to have been games that the top pair scored more than 100 points in a game together because for the seaosn they averaged more than 72ppg together.

https://www.interbasket.net/news/best-nba-duo-highest-scoring-teammates-same-season/36318/
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Re: PG: Knicks win vs Wiz 

Post#162 » by egelband » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:16 pm

omerome wrote:Glad that they won. But wow, what was a disgusting win. Way too close.

Throw that game in the fire.

I disagree. Every team has talent and the wizards came at the Knicks with the game of their lives. Sure, the Knicks weren’t playing *their * best game. But facing a team on fire like that is tough. The Knicks could have actually afforded to let this one go but they didn’t. That was the most impressive part. They dig down deep for a win in a pretty meaningless December game. That speaks volumes about the character of this team. I’m very impressed.
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Re: PG: KNICKS Squeak Past The Wiz's 

Post#163 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Dec 29, 2024 12:32 pm

Let's take a moment to appreciate how good an outlet passer Josh Hart is.
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Re: PG: KNICKS Squeak Past The Wiz's 

Post#164 » by egelband » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:00 pm

Would like to see all the starters each get for our five scheduled games off over the course of the second half.
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Re: PG: KNICKS Squeak Past The Wiz's 

Post#165 » by NoStatsGuy » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:07 pm

ah was good to see brunson cooking. just as reassurance you know...

im taking this win. we are gonna need those kind of Ws to look for the 1st seed down the line, which is the goal right? if we go hard in the regular season and we know thibs does, we wanna be at home vs boston to start the series, if we meet them.
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Re: PG: KNICKS Squeak Past The Wiz's 

Post#166 » by KnixinSix » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:15 pm

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22-10 and we can sit here and pick at things. We play the same teams everyone else plays. We have good stats across the board with PPG/OPP-PPG/NET-RTG/ETC. Are there some concerns? Sure but, we have seen improvements over the course of the season. Hopefully that continues. The 3pt shooting has only been down the last two games. The defense has been questionable all season but, it has improved.

Starting next Friday we will see our schedule get a little tougher. I think by mid January it really picks up. We shall see the results in real time. Hopefully we see the team figure things out like they have all season. We are 32 games in and we have basically been the best team in the league since November 15th record wise. 6-6 to 22-10. Massive improvement. I have faith they continue on the upward trajectory.

The bench will build more chemistry. The coach will continue to tinker with things. Mitch should be back soon. That will add another level to our defense. Maybe we make a trade. There is room to grow and time to improve over the next 50 games. People see the flaws. I don't think anyone is really acting like everything is fine while the room is on fire. Look around the league. We are easily a top 5-6 team. Do we win it all in year one of this group? Time will tell. We are in good shape though moving forward and we can get better.


This is a very fair assessment and in line with what I have been sharing recently.....

I love this current Knicks squad. I have watched and sometimes rewatched every single game this season. And think it is absolutely a Top 5 team RIGHT NOW.

They started 5-6 with a very tough schedule and were clearly acclimating to playing with each other and learning the system.

Since then they are 17-4. Equal to just about any team in the league in the key advanced metrics. Point differential, FG%, Net overall rating etc. KAT is legitimately playing on an MVP level.

Any guy in our starting lineup now can take over and add either primary scoring or high level secondary scoring when needed. The team has a ton of intangibles and high quality two way players to complement their 2 Superstars in KAT and JB.

However gun to my head with this team as currently constituted, I don't think it quite beats the Celtics, Cavs and Thunder in the playoffs in a best of 7 series just yet. Why? The D is still a touch too soft for my liking. This team is better than last years version in almost every way except two things : Defense and Offensive rebounding.

But these are 2 important things especially come playoff time.

There is one final puzzle piece that potentially takes this team over the top and helps address those two issues. A dominant rim protecting and rebounding center.

The benefits of that type of player:

1. Complements KAT and takes a lot of pressure off him having to do the things he is weakest at
2. Lengthens the bench
3. Adds critical offensive rebounding to more closely match last year.
4. Players will collapse in less in the paint to compensate for the lack of a stud defender in the middle and focus more on defending the perimeter (like last year post OG)

Whether that means getting Mitch back and him hopefully staying healthy rest of season and/or adding that guy via trade, that is the move that takes this team to truly championship level.

I am excited bc I believe that final puzzle piece will be coming soon and we will go from top 5 to potentially a legit contender to win the whole thing.
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Re: PG: KNICKS Squeak Past The Wiz's 

Post#167 » by Iron Mantis » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:38 pm

The Wiz are dreadful, they only have 5 wins. But they beat the Hawks 2x and beat the Nuggets 1x. They tried to make us the next victim.

We were tired on a back to back, 3's hitting the front of the rim. ....and The wiz were extra motivated against us because last game we ran them out of the building, going up by 34 points entering the 4th quarter....yes this was even with their "superstars" Kuzma and Poole.

Without their "star" guys they played inspired team ball, looking for revenge, racking up 32 assists and all the guys on the floor were playing very intense defense.

Under these circumstances, any team could have succumbed to an L, but the Knicks gutted it out. Major props to the troops and Thibs.

I just don't like Thibs killing these guys with these insane minutes. They won't survive til the end of the season if we can't get the bench guys more minutes.
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Re: PG: Knicks win vs Wiz 

Post#168 » by Context » Sun Dec 29, 2024 1:52 pm

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omerome wrote:Glad that they won. But wow, what was a disgusting win. Way too close.

Throw that game in the fire.

I disagree. Every team has talent and the wizards came at the Knicks with the game of their lives. Sure, the Knicks weren’t playing *their * best game. But facing a team on fire like that is tough. The Knicks could have actually afforded to let this one go but they didn’t. That was the most impressive part. They dig down deep for a win in a pretty meaningless December game. That speaks volumes about the character of this team. I’m very impressed.

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AND... over the last 4 days from the 25th thru the 28th they played 3 tough games(you may have mentioned this in a post I didnt see)-.
They were missing shots because they were exhausted. Yet, like you said they dug deep and won the game. If you watched Jalen at that end when it was over he didnt have much energy to even celebrate-he just wanted to walk and walk to his hotel bed :lol: I'm working on the game thread and I'm going to look at all of our games thus far because I'm curious now-where does this win rank...
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Re: PG: KNICKS Squeak Past The Wiz's 

Post#169 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:02 pm

Thibs is trying to get us 3 players in the all star game that’s why he’s playing them so much mins. My hero.
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Post#170 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:03 pm

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Re: PG: Knicks win vs Wiz 

Post#171 » by omerome » Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:10 pm

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omerome wrote:Glad that they won. But wow, what was a disgusting win. Way too close.

Throw that game in the fire.

I disagree. Every team has talent and the wizards came at the Knicks with the game of their lives. Sure, the Knicks weren’t playing *their * best game. But facing a team on fire like that is tough. The Knicks could have actually afforded to let this one go but they didn’t. That was the most impressive part. They dig down deep for a win in a pretty meaningless December game. That speaks volumes about the character of this team. I’m very impressed.

Yes, that's very true.

Just watching how we were playing and at times the lack of effort was frustrating. But yeah you do have to commend how the Wizards were playing, because the were playing hard and badly wanted that game. I was only disappointed the game was so close the whole time.
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Post#172 » by Fat Kat » Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:28 pm

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Post#173 » by Iron Mantis » Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:43 pm

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He humbly let's go of any inhibitions and does all of the selfless, thoughtful, sometimes even cheesy things that strengthen the bonds of brotherhood on and off the court.

KAT makes us believe that no matter what other people say, we can all achieve our dreams. And believing is achieving.

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Re: PG: Knicks win vs Wiz 

Post#174 » by JayTWill » Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:52 pm

omerome wrote:
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omerome wrote:Glad that they won. But wow, what was a disgusting win. Way too close.

Throw that game in the fire.

I disagree. Every team has talent and the wizards came at the Knicks with the game of their lives. Sure, the Knicks weren’t playing *their * best game. But facing a team on fire like that is tough. The Knicks could have actually afforded to let this one go but they didn’t. That was the most impressive part. They dig down deep for a win in a pretty meaningless December game. That speaks volumes about the character of this team. I’m very impressed.

Yes, that's very true.

Just watching how we were playing and at times the lack of effort was frustrating. But yeah you do have to commend how the Wizards were playing, because the were playing hard and badly wanted that game. I was only disappointed the game was so close the whole time.


I actually agree with you. A win is a win but the game definitely shouldn't have been that close. Fatigue is understandable but that is what depth is for. Unfortunately there is no point in having depth if you won't use it. We have experienced depth and we have young depth. Both of them were glued to the bench in December.

I just saw 2 teams playing very little defense with our team having a severe talent advantage on the offensive end but the worst offense in the NBA getting so many open shots with very little resistance. In a game that we were playing our best 5 for extended minutes down the stretch they were running out a 5 man unit with Bilal Coulibaly's 80+ games played being the most experience in the lineup deep into the 4th.

With an opportunity to win the game at the end of regulation they intentionally held the ball to have Coulibaly matchup against OG. At this point in his career he is not skilled enough to have that moment against anyone let alone OG but that moment wasn't for them to have the best chance to win the game. That was an investment in their young guys and gaining more experience to hopefully benefit them in the future. On the flip side Thibs was once again running playoff rotations trying to win the December championship like the team doesn't have bigger goals.

How sustainable is this and why do we have to play this way so often?
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Re: PG: KNICKS Squeak Past The Wiz's 

Post#175 » by thebuzzardman » Sun Dec 29, 2024 2:59 pm

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Re: PG: Knicks win vs Wiz 

Post#176 » by gavran » Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:00 pm

omerome wrote:
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omerome wrote:Glad that they won. But wow, what was a disgusting win. Way too close.

Throw that game in the fire.

I disagree. Every team has talent and the wizards came at the Knicks with the game of their lives. Sure, the Knicks weren’t playing *their * best game. But facing a team on fire like that is tough. The Knicks could have actually afforded to let this one go but they didn’t. That was the most impressive part. They dig down deep for a win in a pretty meaningless December game. That speaks volumes about the character of this team. I’m very impressed.

Yes, that's very true.

Just watching how we were playing and at times the lack of effort was frustrating. But yeah you do have to commend how the Wizards were playing, because the were playing hard and badly wanted that game. I was only disappointed the game was so close the whole time.


That happens if you play b2b after playing the tough Orlando first, and the the young Wizards second. The next one won't be close.
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Post#177 » by Iron Mantis » Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:14 pm

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Post#178 » by Clyde_Style » Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:19 pm

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What injury does he have?


Knee injury originally listed as a bruise in college. Apparently had a scope that indicated no structural damage. Knicks are probably redshirting him.


As long as he is physically sound, this is the kind of guy who could be truly impactful.

Ball hawks like that don't grow on trees these days.

When the trade deadline passes we'll better know what their plans are for him this season. I hope he doesn't sit out the year, but the way Huk and Kolek are glued to the bench I shouldn't get my hopes up.
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Post#179 » by Im Coming Home » Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:20 pm

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Re: PG: KNICKS Squeak Past The Wiz's 

Post#180 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Dec 29, 2024 3:23 pm

Iron Mantis wrote:The Wiz are dreadful, they only have 5 wins. But they beat the Hawks 2x and beat the Nuggets 1x. They tried to make us the next victim.

We were tired on a back to back, 3's hitting the front of the rim. ....and The wiz were extra motivated against us because last game we ran them out of the building, going up by 34 points entering the 4th quarter....yes this was even with their "superstars" Kuzma and Poole.

Without their "star" guys they played inspired team ball, looking for revenge, racking up 32 assists and all the guys on the floor were playing very intense defense.

Under these circumstances, any team could have succumbed to an L, but the Knicks gutted it out. Major props to the troops and Thibs.

I just don't like Thibs killing these guys with these insane minutes. They won't survive til the end of the season if we can't get the bench guys more minutes.


It's refreshing to watch a team that doesn't automatically punt the tail end of a B2B. These wins matter and it doesn't matter if it was a 30 point blow out or a 5 point nail biter. Wins matter.

That being said, if Thibs isn't going to open up the rotation, I don't see this team making it to April in a condition to make a deep playoff run.
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