PG: fake contenders

[HEZI]

Mikal excuses are just as soft as his game.

Meanwhile OG plays heavy minutes, plays back to backs, locks up bigger opponents and last night it was Evan Mobley who was 4-11 from the field for only 13 points. And yet OG still brought it offensively and attacked and played aggressive.

Mikal on the other hand, just soft. Dude should have been left in Brooklyn playing for the Nets where he can play for an irrelevant franchise, put up empty stats against bad teams and not worry about any fans or expectations

Mikal has been shtting the bed against every contender this year. People are coming up with excuses for him because they don’t want to admit they were wrong about Mikal or they rather deflect blame to Thibs.

Indeed

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Yeah nah. Mikal showed his ass but Tom is apart of the problem too and I want both gone this summer. It's not either or.

Package Mikal to Sacramento for Sabonis for all i care. Anything is better than staying put with someone who picks and chooses when he wants to compete.

I'm a noted mikal hater but hear me out. (Nodope, lookaway I'm politicking) This marriage is fcked. I'm not against trading mikal for a better player if that's an option this summer(a 2nd creator), but he is clearly not being utilized well under thibs and neither is kat. The worry though is he is going to get paid this summer and we're going to be stuck with him.

Idk, we gave up 5 picks for rip Hamilton and are upset that he can't take elite guys off the dribble. I hate it here. The finish line is in view and were cooked. Leon fcked up.

Always on the campaign tour.

[Guano]

Mikal excuses are just as soft as his game.

Meanwhile OG plays heavy minutes, plays back to backs, locks up bigger opponents and last night it was Evan Mobley who was 4-11 from the field for only 13 points. And yet OG still brought it offensively and attacked and played aggressive.

Mikal on the other hand, just soft. Dude should have been left in Brooklyn playing for the Nets where he can play for an irrelevant franchise, put up empty stats against bad teams and not worry about any fans or expectations

Mikal has been shtting the bed against every contender this year. People are coming up with excuses for him because they don’t want to admit they were wrong about Mikal or they rather deflect blame to Thibs.

It was a doomed arranged marriage. The real villain is Leon.

The truthh is we should have respected our elders - we should have listened to Wingo.

[HEZI]

Mikal excuses are just as soft as his game.

Meanwhile OG plays heavy minutes, plays back to backs, locks up bigger opponents and last night it was Evan Mobley who was 4-11 from the field for only 13 points. And yet OG still brought it offensively and attacked and played aggressive.

Mikal on the other hand, just soft. Dude should have been left in Brooklyn playing for the Nets where he can play for an irrelevant franchise, put up empty stats against bad teams and not worry about any fans or expectations

Run Mikal's splits against the impressive wins that bloat Thibs fake season.



Dude feasts on the Tankathon buffet.

He sucks. There’s no other way to spin it anymore

[Guano]

Yeah nah. Mikal showed his ass but Tom is apart of the problem too and I want both gone this summer. It's not either or.

Package Mikal to Sacramento for Sabonis for all i care. Anything is better than staying put with someone who picks and chooses when he wants to compete.

I'm a noted mikal hater but hear me out. (Nodope, lookaway I'm politicking) This marriage is fcked. I'm not against trading mikal for a better player if that's an option this summer(a 2nd creator), but he is clearly not being utilized well under thibs and neither is kat. The worry though is he is going to get paid this summer and we're going to be stuck with him.

Idk, we gave up 5 picks for rip Hamilton and are upset that he can't take elite guys off the dribble. I hate it here. The finish line is in view and were cooked. Leon fcked up.

Always on the campaign tour.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Mikal excuses are just as soft as his game.

Meanwhile OG plays heavy minutes, plays back to backs, locks up bigger opponents and last night it was Evan Mobley who was 4-11 from the field for only 13 points. And yet OG still brought it offensively and attacked and played aggressive.

Mikal on the other hand, just soft. Dude should have been left in Brooklyn playing for the Nets where he can play for an irrelevant franchise, put up empty stats against bad teams and not worry about any fans or expectations

Mikal has been shtting the bed against every contender this year. People are coming up with excuses for him because they don’t want to admit they were wrong about Mikal or they rather deflect blame to Thibs.

It was a doomed arranged marriage. The real villain is Leon.

The truthh is we should have respected our elders - we should have listened to Wingo.

No, ultimately Team Tank was always right, but you all wanted to compete. The Thunder were tanking with SGA on their roster, and people really had the nerve to act like tanking wasn't a right and just thing to do.

[Fury]

Mikal excuses are just as soft as his game.

Meanwhile OG plays heavy minutes, plays back to backs, locks up bigger opponents and last night it was Evan Mobley who was 4-11 from the field for only 13 points. And yet OG still brought it offensively and attacked and played aggressive.

Mikal on the other hand, just soft. Dude should have been left in Brooklyn playing for the Nets where he can play for an irrelevant franchise, put up empty stats against bad teams and not worry about any fans or expectations

Mikal has been shtting the bed against every contender this year. People are coming up with excuses for him because they don’t want to admit they were wrong about Mikal or they rather deflect blame to Thibs.

Mikal needs to do better in these games.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

We got Zach Lowe on the side of truth and justice now.

Read on Twitter

National media has turned the spotlight on Thibs, finally, thank you for all these national games where we get our clothes folded while still wearing them.

[Guano]

Mikal has been shtting the bed against every contender this year. People are coming up with excuses for him because they don’t want to admit they were wrong about Mikal or they rather deflect blame to Thibs.

It was a doomed arranged marriage. The real villain is Leon.

The truthh is we should have respected our elders - we should have listened to Wingo.

No, ultimately Team Tank was always right, but you all wanted to compete. The Thunder were tanking with SGA on their roster, and people really had the nerve to act like tanking wasn't a right and just thing to do.

Let me tell you, you bring up a great point, and here and @ guan02028 we have always held team tank in high regards, and valued their opinion and brave courageous stance on the future of the Knicks. The willingness to walk through the mud for the betterment of this team is not something here @ guan02028 takes for granted. And like you you can count on me to work hard for you during the hard times.


Guan02028.

[DOT]

Yeah nah. Mikal showed his ass but Tom is apart of the problem too and I want both gone this summer. It's not either or.

Package Mikal to Sacramento for Sabonis for all i care. Anything is better than staying put with someone who picks and chooses when he wants to compete.

I'm a noted mikal hater but hear me out. (Nodope, lookaway I'm politicking) This marriage is fcked. I'm not against trading mikal for a better player if that's an option this summer(a 2nd creator), but he is clearly not being utilized well under thibs and neither is kat. The worry though is he is going to get paid this summer and we're going to be stuck with him.

Idk, we gave up 5 picks for rip Hamilton and are upset that he can't take elite guys off the dribble. I hate it here. The finish line is in view and were cooked. Leon fcked up.

The team is kind of built around Brunson

Like, Mikal and KAT are both 3rd options, and while you can win with a #1 and 2 #3s, you need a really good coach to overcome that, which Thibs cannot

I think both Mikal and KAT have shown enough ability to create over the course of their careers to not be relegated to just c&s role players, but neither are good enough to just give the ball and say "go score" and have them be consistent every night like Brunson

The team is not untalented, a better coach would get more out of them. Cavs are the perfect example, Bickerstaff was pretty good (and still is, look how Detroit changed this year under him) but Atkinson is better and was able to get the most out of the team

We don't need a huge shakeup, we need a new coach and just time to gel. Oldest guys in the rotation are Cam Payne and Delon Wright, everybody else is under 30. Maybe it's just sunk cost fallacy, but I don't see why we would trade Mikal or KAT unless we're getting back a real upgrade without depleting the team even more. Stick with them a bit, be patient. But fire Thibs, dude is the limiting factor.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

It was a doomed arranged marriage. The real villain is Leon.

The truthh is we should have respected our elders - we should have listened to Wingo.

No, ultimately Team Tank was always right, but you all wanted to compete. The Thunder were tanking with SGA on their roster, and people really had the nerve to act like tanking wasn't a right and just thing to do.

Let me tell you, you bring up a great point, and here and @ guan02028 we have always held team tank in high regards, and valued their opinion and brave courageous stance on the future of the Knicks. The willingness to walk through the mud for the betterment of this team is not something here @ guan02028 takes for granted. And like you you can count on me to work hard for you during the hard times.


Guan02028.

You said a whole bunch of nothing with a lot of words. This is why you're going to win Governor of your state.

[Guano]

Mikal excuses are just as soft as his game.

Meanwhile OG plays heavy minutes, plays back to backs, locks up bigger opponents and last night it was Evan Mobley who was 4-11 from the field for only 13 points. And yet OG still brought it offensively and attacked and played aggressive.

Mikal on the other hand, just soft. Dude should have been left in Brooklyn playing for the Nets where he can play for an irrelevant franchise, put up empty stats against bad teams and not worry about any fans or expectations

Mikal has been shtting the bed against every contender this year. People are coming up with excuses for him because they don’t want to admit they were wrong about Mikal or they rather deflect blame to Thibs.

Mikal needs to do better in these games.

Is the reason mikal was shtting the bed cause he was asked to create 1v1 and that's not his game though.

Like asking meLo to eat salads... we can't expect the impossible to happen and then be mad at the person for failing.

This doesn't excuse giving up 5 picks for rip Hamilton though. That sht is always going to suck

[Guano]

Yeah nah. Mikal showed his ass but Tom is apart of the problem too and I want both gone this summer. It's not either or.

Package Mikal to Sacramento for Sabonis for all i care. Anything is better than staying put with someone who picks and chooses when he wants to compete.

I'm a noted mikal hater but hear me out. (Nodope, lookaway I'm politicking) This marriage is fcked. I'm not against trading mikal for a better player if that's an option this summer(a 2nd creator), but he is clearly not being utilized well under thibs and neither is kat. The worry though is he is going to get paid this summer and we're going to be stuck with him.

Idk, we gave up 5 picks for rip Hamilton and are upset that he can't take elite guys off the dribble. I hate it here. The finish line is in view and were cooked. Leon fcked up.

The team is kind of built around Brunson

Like, Mikal and KAT are both 3rd options, and while you can win with a #1 and 2 #3s, you need a really good coach to overcome that, which Thibs cannot

I think both Mikal and KAT have shown enough ability to create over the course of their careers to not be relegated to just c&s role players, but neither are good enough to just give the ball and say "go score" and have them be consistent every night like Brunson

The team is not untalented, a better coach would get more out of them. Cavs are the perfect example, Bickerstaff was pretty good (and still is, look how Detroit changed this year under him) but Atkinson is better and was able to get the most out of the team

We don't need a huge shakeup, we need a new coach and just time to gel. Oldest guys in the rotation are Cam Payne and Delon Wright, everybody else is under 30. Maybe it's just sunk cost fallacy, but I don't see why we would trade Mikal or KAT unless we're getting back a real upgrade without depleting the team even more. Stick with them a bit, be patient. But fire Thibs, dude is the limiting factor.

I agree with this though maybe it's just semantics on the if kat/mikal and hell even og are 2nd or 3rd options. Whatever.

I do think we desperately need a 2nd creator. I don't even think they have to be a starter. We just need someone we can give the rock to and they can cook/break down a defense. Watching kat post up at the top of the key or mikal reluctantly attempt to get the rock is painful.


And yeah it's time for thibs to go

[3toheadmelo]

Mikal has been shtting the bed against every contender this year. People are coming up with excuses for him because they don’t want to admit they were wrong about Mikal or they rather deflect blame to Thibs.

Mikal needs to do better in these games.

Is the reason mikal was shtting the bed cause he was asked to create 1v1 and that's not his game though.

Like asking meLo to eat salads... we can't expect the impossible to happen and then be mad at the person for failing.

This doesn't excuse giving up 5 picks for rip Hamilton though. That sht is always going to suck

How am I catching a stray in Mikalikina slander

[Guano]

Mikal needs to do better in these games.

Is the reason mikal was shtting the bed cause he was asked to create 1v1 and that's not his game though.

Like asking meLo to eat salads... we can't expect the impossible to happen and then be mad at the person for failing.

This doesn't excuse giving up 5 picks for rip Hamilton though. That sht is always going to suck

How am I catching a stray in Mikalikina slander

[DOT]

No, ultimately Team Tank was always right, but you all wanted to compete. The Thunder were tanking with SGA on their roster, and people really had the nerve to act like tanking wasn't a right and just thing to do.

Let me tell you, you bring up a great point, and here and @ guan02028 we have always held team tank in high regards, and valued their opinion and brave courageous stance on the future of the Knicks. The willingness to walk through the mud for the betterment of this team is not something here @ guan02028 takes for granted. And like you you can count on me to work hard for you during the hard times.


Guan02028.

You said a whole bunch of nothing with a lot of words. This is why you're going to win Governor of your state.

Not even that much

Just move on down to MAGA town and start calling everything "woke" and "DEI" and blame all the problems on immigrants eating pets

You can even call yourself a Nazi and still get over 40% of the vote in North Carolina, really nothing is off the table.

[JayTWill]

Why did you completely ignore that Mitch has been injured and is the main reason why Hart is starting? Hart is a decent player, I don’t hate him. Hes forced to start because Mitch has been injured the whole year.

Deuce and hart play two completely different positions. I’m not sure I see the correlation?

Hart + Mitch has a positive net rating of +4.9. So your argument fails there.

What position does Hart actually play????? Some people say you are who you can guard. Considering that you called him a traffic cone I don't know what position he can actually guard. We hide him off-ball many games and on offense he acts as a low level point guard at times while being a terrible off-ball floor spacer that can absolutely kill a half court possession.

And Mitch without Hart is +22 so apparently there are some lineups that have worked very well without Hart on the court. So your argument fails there.

Hart is a SF/PF. That’s not rocket science

It seems obvious that Thibs is trying out different lineups with Mitch while easing him back into the rotation. So I’m not sure why you want to die on that hill when he’s been out for most of the season?

It's not rocket science but in the last game against your Celtics with Horford and Kornet starting and Holiday and KP out Hart spent most of his time guarding Horford. In the first game with Horford in for KP Hart guarded White most often. Thibs just seems to be keeping Hart off-ball as often as possible. There is no specific position that he guards and no reason Deuce can't be matched-up against White or many of the other matchups Thibs hides Hart on.

https://cleaningtheglass.com/stats/player/4234/onoff#tab-team_efficiency

There have been plenty of times where Deuce's skillet has been more useful than Hart or Bridge's but I know you don't care about that.

Defending Thibs and his madness while managing your many agendas is an impossible task

[prophet_of_rage]

Yeah nah. Mikal showed his ass but Tom is apart of the problem too and I want both gone this summer. It's not either or.

Package Mikal to Sacramento for Sabonis for all i care. Anything is better than staying put with someone who picks and chooses when he wants to compete.

The Mikal thing is interesting for sure. But honestly I feel its more an indictment on Tom than him. I wonder how this shakes out. We spent 5 first round picks on him. Either Tom will need to adapt or there will be continued problems. This may end up being replace Tom or Mikal doesn't resign here.

Plenty of the younger generation coaches listen to their players more. With Tom (thus far) its moreso my way or the highway.

Bring in Johnnie Bryant and our players will not be overextended.

Never forget the reason we didn't draft Mikal in the first place! He got cooked bt Kevin Knox in workouts!

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[prophet_of_rage]

Yeah nah. Mikal showed his ass but Tom is apart of the problem too and I want both gone this summer. It's not either or.

Package Mikal to Sacramento for Sabonis for all i care. Anything is better than staying put with someone who picks and chooses when he wants to compete.

The Mikal thing is interesting for sure. But honestly I feel its more an indictment on Tom than him. I wonder how this shakes out. We spent 5 first round picks on him. Either Tom will need to adapt or there will be continued problems. This may end up being replace Tom or Mikal doesn't resign here.

Plenty of the younger generation coaches listen to their players more. With Tom (thus far) its moreso my way or the highway.

Bring in Johnnie Bryant and our players will not be overextended.

JB and Harr love Thibs.

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[Kampuchea]

Has Mikal been playing pretty well and this was a bad single game? Usual sky is falling reactions?