PG: Out of our Misery
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Like so many great scorers before him, Brunson has to learn to do it as a team. He also has the added responsibility as PG to manage the game better. I think he'll learn a lot from these playoffs.
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X-Man Cometh wrote:Sad to realize we all lived to see the Knicks become the Pacers' b*tches.
It was 3-3 until 2000. Now it's 3-6.
The worst part is that this year's loss is by far the worst.
The last two losses (2013 and 2024) were understandable. In 2013, the vets had nothing left in the playoffs and JR Smith forgot how to play basketball in the second round. Melo couldn't carry that team by himself. And last year we basically had no healthy players left by the end of the series.
This year is different. Even with Thibs' poor coaching, we were the better team and we were healthy. That Game 1 loss may be the most humiliating loss in Knicks history and set the tone for the rest of the series.
It's great that we made it to the ECF and beat the Celtics, but I can't help but feeling that last year's team (when healthy) was better.
Last year's roster was beating teams by 20+ points every game.
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mpharris36 wrote:Deeeez Knicks wrote:Furthest we have gone in 25 years or whatever and it's still painful
because your likely never going to be as healthy...and have the pathway this year.
you have to take every advantage and we fell short.
I also don't see the FO making the necessary changes to win a championship....and yes the coach is part of the issue. Not the only issue but certainly part of it.
Maybe we also need to acknowledge that we don’t have a player capable of being the best player on a title team on our roster - no matter how good Jalen Brunson is.
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We get it, you don't like KAT.
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Carlisle has a championship pedigree.
Thibs eats Pedigree dog food.
One was able to adjust every game and deploy his roster.
The other was forced to make changes to save his job.
Thibs is trash. He's the Sean McDermott of the NBA.
Thibs eats Pedigree dog food.
One was able to adjust every game and deploy his roster.
The other was forced to make changes to save his job.
Thibs is trash. He's the Sean McDermott of the NBA.
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X-Man Cometh wrote:Sad to realize we all lived to see the Knicks become the Pacers' b*tches.
It was 3-3 until 2000. Now it's 3-6.
The worst part is that this year's loss is by far the worst.
The last two losses (2013 and 2024) were understandable. In 2013, the vets had nothing left in the playoffs and JR Smith forgot how to play basketball in the second round. Melo couldn't carry that team by himself. And last year we basically had no healthy players left by the end of the series.
This year is different. Even with Thibs' poor coaching, we were the better team and we were healthy. That Game 1 loss may be the most humiliating loss in Knicks history and set the tone for the rest of the series.
It's great that we made it to the ECF and beat the Celtics, but I can't help but feeling that last year's team (when healthy) was better.
I keep hearing people say this…we really aren’t.
Pacers offense is much better and they have better bench players. Knicks have potential and that’s been on display the entire season but they’re very limited because of the bench, the coaching & the players in the starting lineup.
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Thanks to Thibs, Brunson, KAT, and the rest of the squad for our best season in 25 years and for allowing us to dream.
They took us as far they could - they just lost to a more complete Indiana team who also seemed more hungry and more disciplined in the last moments of the ECF.
It was always a flawed team, but they produced some unforgettable moments, including beating the defending champions. That's not to be taken for granted.
The avenues towards improving the team are very narrow with the assets they have left. I'd just say be careful what you wish for.
They took us as far they could - they just lost to a more complete Indiana team who also seemed more hungry and more disciplined in the last moments of the ECF.
It was always a flawed team, but they produced some unforgettable moments, including beating the defending champions. That's not to be taken for granted.
The avenues towards improving the team are very narrow with the assets they have left. I'd just say be careful what you wish for.
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Jeffrey wrote:Strick wrote:Carlisle made an adjustment and switched Nembhard on Brunson.
He ran circles around Thibs all series long. When it comes to chess, Thibs gets outclassed every single time
Also I want to add, Carlisle got Siakam to leak out more often while KAT and Mitch stayed home to get offensive rebounds.
And OBi did a passable impression of Siakaam as well.
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Red Vines wrote:Giannis isn't going West to deal with OKC, Denver, etc., he's going East to a team that can give up players but still compete, he loves NY, Milwaukee doesn't have its own picks so tanking does them no good...we have a good chance.
He's going to get traded to the team that got the Knicks' draft picks for Mikal.

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Worst_to_First wrote:Janquinn87 wrote:Kat average 25pt and 12 rebounds a game in this series, he is not soft. We are not going to get a better big man then him.
This. But let the b*tches here have their fun.
Absolutely insane to put blame this series on KAT. This is a sweep w/ 2 blowouts in IND if he didn’t take control.
Jimmit79 wrote:Yea RJ played well he was definitely the x factor
#FreeJimmit
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NYKat wrote:god shammgod wrote:NYKat wrote:Unpopular opinion is honestly all this team needs is just another year of chemistry together, the switches, rotations, cuts and reads will be so much tighter after having played together for a year as unit.
No over thinking, that’s it
i don't think so. it got worse as the year went on.
Not true, we actually got better during the course of the playoffs…
Pacers were just had more chemistry than us
it got to the point in the playoffs where we decided to stagger kat and brunson as much as possible so both could get theirs, they don't work together.
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Red Vines wrote:Like so many great scorers before him, Brunson has to learn to do it as a team. He also has the added responsibility as PG to manage the game better. I think he'll learn a lot from these playoffs.
Brunson was game planned properly. Thibs is clueless on how to adjust. The move to make was to start Deuce. And play Shamet and Wright more than he did. He stinks.
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Red Vines wrote:Like so many great scorers before him, Brunson has to learn to do it as a team. He also has the added responsibility as PG to manage the game better. I think he'll learn a lot from these playoffs.
He better learn something, because I'm not back on the Knicks train to watch more hero ball all over again.
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Sprinkling in a little bit of homophobia to add to the long list of things that make you a bad person?
personal attack. -JVG
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My notes on this season
- Bad defense from a team coached by a defensive minded coach
- Inconsistent offense because the coach doesn’t coach offense well throughout his career
- Awful defensive IQ by KAT and Brunson
- inconsistent offense and defense from Mikal and not strong enough to take advantage of his height and length. Hit the weight room
- Thibs didn’t develop his young guys whatsoever. Kolek is a pure PG who would be awesome at running this offense off the bench
- Josh Hart is not a starter. Great guy off the bench for 25-28 minutes a night
- Miles McBride did not take the leap offensively the team hoped he would entering the season. Good player regardless
- Brunson needs to get better at being a pure PG and at running an offense, which will happen with a coach that does a better job coaching offense
- Bad defense from a team coached by a defensive minded coach
- Inconsistent offense because the coach doesn’t coach offense well throughout his career
- Awful defensive IQ by KAT and Brunson
- inconsistent offense and defense from Mikal and not strong enough to take advantage of his height and length. Hit the weight room
- Thibs didn’t develop his young guys whatsoever. Kolek is a pure PG who would be awesome at running this offense off the bench
- Josh Hart is not a starter. Great guy off the bench for 25-28 minutes a night
- Miles McBride did not take the leap offensively the team hoped he would entering the season. Good player regardless
- Brunson needs to get better at being a pure PG and at running an offense, which will happen with a coach that does a better job coaching offense
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Good season but losing to the pacers sucks. We didn't deserve to win that game. The series was essentially over after we fumbled game 1. I'm pretty numb now.
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I throughly enjoyed this Knicks season, hopefully we can build on this success next season. I know there will be some changes , but man this was a season to remember.
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Why does this feel worse than a 17 win season ?
Feels more hopeless. At least then I could sell myself of a young draft pick to come and save us.
Now we're kinda locked in with what we got and it doesn't seem like they fit as well as the front office thought they would.
Maybe we improve by just having another season together, that's basically what the Pacers did, another year of Siakim and the team vastly improved. Who knows.. I wouldn't bet on it. Thibs really gotta go but he's not going to get fired after taking the Knicks the furthest they ever gone since 2000.
Feels more hopeless. At least then I could sell myself of a young draft pick to come and save us.
Now we're kinda locked in with what we got and it doesn't seem like they fit as well as the front office thought they would.
Maybe we improve by just having another season together, that's basically what the Pacers did, another year of Siakim and the team vastly improved. Who knows.. I wouldn't bet on it. Thibs really gotta go but he's not going to get fired after taking the Knicks the furthest they ever gone since 2000.
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dakomish23 wrote:Worst_to_First wrote:Janquinn87 wrote:Kat average 25pt and 12 rebounds a game in this series, he is not soft. We are not going to get a better big man then him.
This. But let the b*tches here have their fun.
Absolutely insane to put blame this series on KAT. This is a sweep w/ 2 blowouts in IND if he didn’t take control.
Than I'm insane. Game 1 drops, Game 2 drops. Doesn't manner how many buckets you put up if you can't follow the D game plan. When I was at the garden for Game 2, the amount of times I could hear MIkal or OJ or Mitch yelling on D at KAT was ABSOLUTELY insane to me for an ECF game. They've had over 100 games to work on this ****.
Oh, and Hart. He had a rough one, too.