Shams: Brogdon joins Knicks

[seren]

I need someone to explain to me how this works under the cap. I was under the impression we could only sign one vet minimum

[thebuzzardman]

Ummmmm but what about the defense?

A bench guy making the minimum isn’t going to do everything well. He’s a designated scorer with secondary or tertiary play making ability

Yeah, I know we can't fix every issue for the vet min. It just feels weird that the team is built around one of the worst defensive guards in the league and they are attempting to help him by adding more ageing poor defensive guards. They just got knocked out in the postseason by the Pacers giving up 129, 124, 125 and 128 per 100 possessions in those 4 losses but somehow we still want to focus on the offense.

The Pacers play at pace. They are going to score and the scoring will be high. Knicks addressed depth so they can match bench scoring.
Or the Knicks can exhume Chuck Daly and slow the pace down and use 20 seconds of clock before every shot

[thebuzzardman]

I need someone to explain to me how this works under the cap. I was under the impression we could only sign one vet minimum

Knicks are firing Kolek and Dadiet into the sun

[thebuzzardman]

Sounds like we'll be picking up a future 2nd rounder and the rights to a Scandinavian blueberry muffin vendor.



Also, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Dadiet and not Kolek. He's young and has a ton of two-way tools. A shot like butter that would go very well on blueberry muffins.

Frox (French Knox) a goner

[seren]

I need someone to explain to me how this works under the cap. I was under the impression we could only sign one vet minimum

Knicks are firing Kolek and Dadiet into the sun

Fine by me but how does it help? Aren’t we supposed to carry 14 players. Those two are making less than veteran minimum

[thebuzzardman]

Knicks need to add Matthews because every championship team has one angry, irritating Caucasian on it

[RHODEY]

A bench guy making the minimum isn’t going to do everything well. He’s a designated scorer with secondary or tertiary play making ability

Yeah, I know we can't fix every issue for the vet min. It just feels weird that the team is built around one of the worst defensive guards in the league and they are attempting to help him by adding more ageing poor defensive guards. They just got knocked out in the postseason by the Pacers giving up 129, 124, 125 and 128 per 100 possessions in those 4 losses but somehow we still want to focus on the offense.

The Pacers play at pace. They are going to score and the scoring will be high. Knicks addressed depth so they can match bench scoring.
Or the Knicks can exhume Chuck Daly and slow the pace down and use 20 seconds of clock before every shot

Not coach Brown's style..you have THIBS PTSD.

[thebuzzardman]

I need someone to explain to me how this works under the cap. I was under the impression we could only sign one vet minimum

Knicks are firing Kolek and Dadiet into the sun

Fine by me but how does it help? Aren’t we supposed to carry 14 players. Those two are making less than veteran minimum

It’s one of Shamet or Matthew’s and Brogdan. I think moving one of Kolek or Dadiet frees up $ but not sure

[thebuzzardman]

Yeah, I know we can't fix every issue for the vet min. It just feels weird that the team is built around one of the worst defensive guards in the league and they are attempting to help him by adding more ageing poor defensive guards. They just got knocked out in the postseason by the Pacers giving up 129, 124, 125 and 128 per 100 possessions in those 4 losses but somehow we still want to focus on the offense.

The Pacers play at pace. They are going to score and the scoring will be high. Knicks addressed depth so they can match bench scoring.
Or the Knicks can exhume Chuck Daly and slow the pace down and use 20 seconds of clock before every shot

Not coach Brown's style..you have THIBS PTSD.

Not me. JT jonesing for that defense

[MrDollarBills]

I need someone to explain to me how this works under the cap. I was under the impression we could only sign one vet minimum

Knicks are firing Kolek and Dadiet into the sun

I mean Kolek is redundant with how many guards are on the roster but we need Dadiet for wing depth.

[RHODEY]

The Pacers play at pace. They are going to score and the scoring will be high. Knicks addressed depth so they can match bench scoring.
Or the Knicks can exhume Chuck Daly and slow the pace down and use 20 seconds of clock before every shot

Not coach Brown's style..you have THIBS PTSD.

Not me. JT jonesing for that defense

Brogdon isn't a poor defender and neither is deuce...we have a mix of offensive nd defensive players, but we more of an offensive team. We ranked 5th last season but only 10th versus the good teams, this season with all the added depth our offense will be legit.

[JayTWill]

A bench guy making the minimum isn’t going to do everything well. He’s a designated scorer with secondary or tertiary play making ability

Yeah, I know we can't fix every issue for the vet min. It just feels weird that the team is built around one of the worst defensive guards in the league and they are attempting to help him by adding more ageing poor defensive guards. They just got knocked out in the postseason by the Pacers giving up 129, 124, 125 and 128 per 100 possessions in those 4 losses but somehow we still want to focus on the offense.

The Pacers play at pace. They are going to score and the scoring will be high. Knicks addressed depth so they can match bench scoring.
Or the Knicks can exhume Chuck Daly and slow the pace down and use 20 seconds of clock before every shot

We tried that in game 2 and still lost

I felt like after the Fournier/Kemba experience and the Bogey/Burks experience this front office would be a little more cautious with adding declining offensive players that were already poor defenders but maybe the third time is the charm. The Derrick Rose pickup worked out for half a season.

[Richard4444]

Knicks are firing Kolek and Dadiet into the sun

Fine by me but how does it help? Aren’t we supposed to carry 14 players. Those two are making less than veteran minimum

It’s one of Shamet or Matthew’s and Brogdan. I think moving one of Kolek or Dadiet frees up $ but not sure

NBA demmands 14 or 15 standard contract rosters and 3 2way deals to begin the season. We can keep 13 players for up 2 consecutive weeks.

Before the season begins, we can carry up to 20 players.

We had 12 standard contracts and now 13 with Brogdon (although it is non guaranteed).

We still have second apron space only to sign a 14 player who is in a rookie standard deal. He should be Diarawa, Dink or Nnaji.

If we can not trade anybody we will have to waive shamet and Mathews.

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

The Pacers play at pace. They are going to score and the scoring will be high. Knicks addressed depth so they can match bench scoring.
Or the Knicks can exhume Chuck Daly and slow the pace down and use 20 seconds of clock before every shot

Not coach Brown's style..you have THIBS PTSD.

Not me. JT jonesing for that defense

Thibs derangement syndrome. Imo

[8516knicks]

So

Karl/Mitch/Huk
OG/Yabu
Mikal/Josh/Dadiet
Deuce/Clarkson/Shamet
Brunson/Brogdon/Kolek

We need to trade or sign another 4 or big wing. Any ideas?

This is a loaded roster. Very pleased with how the front office tackled this offseason

Any chance they jettison Huk, Dadier or Kolek to keep both Shamet & Brogdon?

Not Huk. He's almost guaranteed to play minutes. We're way to thin up front.

I've still to see him do something notable.

[8516knicks]

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Fear not, we have another Frenchie waiting in the wings (Diara or whatever his name is).

[thebuzzardman]

Fine by me but how does it help? Aren’t we supposed to carry 14 players. Those two are making less than veteran minimum

It’s one of Shamet or Matthew’s and Brogdan. I think moving one of Kolek or Dadiet frees up $ but not sure

NBA demmands 14 or 15 standard contract rosters and 3 2way deals to begin the season. We can keep 13 players for up 2 consecutive weeks.

Before the season begins, we can carry up to 20 players.

We had 12 standard contracts and now 13 with Brogdon (although it is non guaranteed).

We still have second apron space only to sign a 14 player who is in a rookie standard deal. He should be Diarawa, Dink or Nnaji.

If we can not trade anybody we will have to waive shamet and Mathews.

Does Kolek or Dadiet free up enough money for one of the vet shooting guards?

[TheGreenArrow]

It’s one of Shamet or Matthew’s and Brogdan. I think moving one of Kolek or Dadiet frees up $ but not sure

NBA demmands 14 or 15 standard contract rosters and 3 2way deals to begin the season. We can keep 13 players for up 2 consecutive weeks.

Before the season begins, we can carry up to 20 players.

We had 12 standard contracts and now 13 with Brogdon (although it is non guaranteed).

We still have second apron space only to sign a 14 player who is in a rookie standard deal. He should be Diarawa, Dink or Nnaji.

If we can not trade anybody we will have to waive shamet and Mathews.

Does Kolek or Dadiet free up enough money for one of the vet shooting guards?

Kolek for picks does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Richard4444]

It’s one of Shamet or Matthew’s and Brogdan. I think moving one of Kolek or Dadiet frees up $ but not sure

NBA demmands 14 or 15 standard contract rosters and 3 2way deals to begin the season. We can keep 13 players for up 2 consecutive weeks.

Before the season begins, we can carry up to 20 players.

We had 12 standard contracts and now 13 with Brogdon (although it is non guaranteed).

We still have second apron space only to sign a 14 player who is in a rookie standard deal. He should be Diarawa, Dink or Nnaji.

If we can not trade anybody we will have to waive shamet and Mathews.

Does Kolek or Dadiet free up enough money for one of the vet shooting guards?

Shamet or Dadiet would take the roster/salary spot from Kolek.

Dadiet trade would release more salary. But I dont think it is enough to sign a vet min in the place of the rook min. But it would be enough to sign Mcullars in the rookie spot after 2 weeks.

[Guano]

Sounds like we'll be picking up a future 2nd rounder and the rights to a Scandinavian blueberry muffin vendor.



Also, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Dadiet and not Kolek. He's young and has a ton of two-way tools. A shot like butter that would go very well on blueberry muffins.

3Pac and his buttery jumper needs to be free.

I don't like it.

Im not willing to let him walk for a washed up Brogdon or shamet.

Feels bad.