Knicks Core vs. Nets Core

[bringinhinkie]

It's the NETS in EVERY aspect (assuming they get that Brooklyn Atlantic Yards Arena). Anyone who claims our core players are better than the Nets core are delusional.

Must I break it down player by player?

why the f*ck did you waste your time making that original post if you already knew in your mind you 100% were for the nets?

gotta love losers who make threads asking for unbiased opinions and then attack someone who disagrees with them..

you're like the @sshole on the player comparisons forum who makes the kobe vs wade thread, knowing you 100% feel kobe is better, and then once someone says they like wade, you go off on them.. what on earth is the point of the thread then? oh wait, its to troll..

ya gtfo

[K_ick_God]

It's the NETS in EVERY aspect (assuming they get that Brooklyn Atlantic Yards Arena). Anyone who claims our core players are better than the Nets core are delusional.

Must I break it down player by player?

I don't really understand when people make these statements as if they're fact when they're clearly not. Yes I am not enamored with the oh so great potential of Brook Lopez, and yes I see Gallo as a guy with rare offensive potential, but I know that this is my opinion -- nothing more or less.

Saying that it's "delusional" to think that the Knicks might be better than the Nets' core is just an overstatement by someone who can't really defend his position.

You can write about all of the numbers you want with Devin Harris -- those are the same numbers that Stephon Marbury put up year after year and nobody wanted him, he never helped anybody win. So he was crap, and the day the Nets traded Cassell for him was a bad day for the Nets. Cassell was a winner and Marbury was ... well Marbury.

So my point is that these opinions offered as fact are kind of embarrassing.

Brook Lopez had a good rookie year, his numbers show that. He's going to be a good player. But to say anything is a fact about evaluating a player's potential is ridiculousness. Predicting the future trajectory of any player is an art, not a science.

And the weakness of this particular argument from 2010 is highlighted by the "Brooklyn Yards Project" comment. They haven't even built this arena and he's already calling it a big advantage for the Nets. He hasn't even seen it but it's already a fact that it's a greater arena than MSG and to think otherwise, you are delusional! As someone else said, it only exists in fantasy land lol. This particular comment stands out as even more juvenile than the other comments, considering that LeBron gushes about playing at MSG.

[kane2021]

Devin Harris is 27 years old.= Not a prospect.

Devin Harris was the PG of a mavs team that was title contenders with a MVP talent in Dirk. They had a 6th man of the year talent. And I feel they handed the miami heat that title.

Putting my knick fan hood aside, I find it concerning that a 27 year old veteran PG cannot lead such a fine young core to the playoffs. Add to the fact that they do have a pretty good young center. 1+5=playoffs, no?

Devin Harris is a grown man. But does he act that way? Does he look like a 27 year old PG?





I can make mention of some other PG's that put up 20-8 type numbers that never amounted to nothing. Didnt the nets have a 20-8 pg once? With a nice young core? They traded him 1 for 1. And became a contender in a weak east. Instantly.

But even THEN. They could not sell that building out. They tried giving away signed jerseys to sell playoffs games. And you could still get a ticket at the window game night!

You cant call on the numbers of a player playing for a bad team. 20-8 on such a bad team is not impressive at all. And he is 27. Its time to lead your team. Derek Rose led his team to the playoffs as a rookie with comparable numbers.

Why? Again Harris is weak. In his heart he is weak. Like Marbury. Like Curry. Like Crawford.

Lopez is tough but is dumb. Like Harrington. Like Z-Bo. Like Chandler.

Lopez and Chandler have plenty of time to gain wisdom. Chandler is gaining that each year. I think Lopez will also. Expect him to hit a wall this season. Then blossom into a very serviceable center. Chandler should become a very serviceable forward with decent all around skills. Both of those players do what there told and do it all the way. Both are very good prospects.

But what is the excuse for Harris? 27 years old with finals experience, he is given the keys to the franchise and dont get no where. And they had vince carter! That guy can out score anyone on either of these teams with one hand. If NY had VC last season do the bulls make the playoffs?

Dont the nets have the same coach that helped lead them to 4 straight years top 3 atlantic?

Im a knick fan and will be the first to tell you we overrate our guys. Look, I even called chandler dumb again. But these fans have 0 patience for that. Put that net team here and they get booed every night. Theres not enough fans in that building to boo. So what are the consequences for poor performance?

The nets are not better because devin harris is a gimmic. And there fans dont push him hard enough. He's not a young boy, and his resume is seasoned, you should demand more.

And BTW, Jay-Z owns such a minuscule percentage of the business venture you might as well call him there number one fan. Spike Lee has spent more money in MSG then has Jay-Z there. It should be viewed as insulting that the nets had to go outside of the country to get financed for there move from a very questionable person while Jay-Z is perpetrating himself as a owner of a NBA franchise stunting on the record as a don. The Don of NY had to get the Don of russia to help him. Thats how I see it, if you consider him a owner and a draw to FA's.

Im a honorable person and wish the nets the best of luck. I would say the same thing about harris if he was a knick. But a fan arguing the nets core should go to the games and boo devin harris. Bring all your friends the tickets are cheap. See if that motivates him. Do yourself a favor and trade him to the wolves.

At this age if Harris cant lift a team out of the basement its safe to say that he cant. Now ask how LBJ views the nets core. Ask a true winner how they view devin harris and his losing team. The nets could sign James and bosh and Harris would be the teams veteran. Thats not promising its sad.

[adjacent2bench]

I'm so glad this thread was made, because I am tired of people jocking the Nets on this board. The Nets aren't better than us, and today, right now, the Knicks are a more attractive option in every single way. There is nothing the Nets have as an advantage over us right now.

I agree. I know I said that the Nets would have a better record than us, but after going to Newark and watching that last preseason game, I came to the realization that, while we aren't a really good team, the Nets really do suck.

We'll be better for sure. Don't know what I was thinking. Our defense is definitely better than theirs as well.

[adjacent2bench]

is this suppose to be a mega ton joke thread? because people who are saying harris is overrated have to be kidding themselves. You out this thread on the general board the only people who would say knicks core are the knick fans..

The Knicks could have Lebron James on their team and the General Board will still say the Nets core is better.

[xcraigx]

Lopez is dumb???? God damnit this is an entertaining thread, I don't care if you think you have the better core, we were both **** last year.

But Lopez is dumb and will not get better than what he is, get a **** clue, you guys need to stop being so biased and hating on the Nets.

[kane2021]

Lopez is dumb???? God damnit this is an entertaining thread, I don't care if you think you have the better core, we were both **** last year.

But Lopez is dumb and will not get better than what he is, get a **** clue, you guys need to stop being so biased and hating on the Nets.

Lopez is tough but is dumb. Like Harrington. Like Z-Bo. Like Chandler.

Lopez and Chandler have plenty of time to gain wisdom. Chandler is gaining that each year. I think Lopez will also. Expect him to hit a wall this season. Then blossom into a very serviceable center. Chandler should become a very serviceable forward with decent all around skills. Both of those players do what there told and do it all the way. Both are very good prospects.

Im the one that called Brook Lopez dumb. I DID NOT say he wont get better.

Read what I say before you call me out and tell me get a clue without calling me out directly and having no clue yourself because you neglected to read the entire post, the same way Devin Harris neglects to lead his young team.

I also called Wilson Chandler dumb and defended him in the same exact way I defended Brook Lopez. Who needs to get a ******* clue?

[xcraigx]

If I was calling you out specifically, I would have quoted you. I read 11 pages of posts, that was directed at more than just one person.

[Capn'O]

What? He a Rhodes Scholar or something?

[method]

Devin Harris is 27 years old.= Not a prospect.

Devin Harris was the PG of a mavs team that was title contenders with a MVP talent in Dirk. They had a 6th man of the year talent. And I feel they handed the miami heat that title.

Putting my knick fan hood aside, I find it concerning that a 27 year old veteran PG cannot lead such a fine young core to the playoffs. Add to the fact that they do have a pretty good young center. 1+5=playoffs, no?

Devin Harris is a grown man. But does he act that way? Does he look like a 27 year old PG?





I can make mention of some other PG's that put up 20-8 type numbers that never amounted to nothing. Didnt the nets have a 20-8 pg once? With a nice young core? They traded him 1 for 1. And became a contender in a weak east. Instantly.

But even THEN. They could not sell that building out. They tried giving away signed jerseys to sell playoffs games. And you could still get a ticket at the window game night!

You cant call on the numbers of a player playing for a bad team. 20-8 on such a bad team is not impressive at all. And he is 27. Its time to lead your team. Derek Rose led his team to the playoffs as a rookie with comparable numbers.

Why? Again Harris is weak. In his heart he is weak. Like Marbury. Like Curry. Like Crawford.

Lopez is tough but is dumb. Like Harrington. Like Z-Bo. Like Chandler.

Lopez and Chandler have plenty of time to gain wisdom. Chandler is gaining that each year. I think Lopez will also. Expect him to hit a wall this season. Then blossom into a very serviceable center. Chandler should become a very serviceable forward with decent all around skills. Both of those players do what there told and do it all the way. Both are very good prospects.

But what is the excuse for Harris? 27 years old with finals experience, he is given the keys to the franchise and dont get no where. And they had vince carter! That guy can out score anyone on either of these teams with one hand. If NY had VC last season do the bulls make the playoffs?

Dont the nets have the same coach that helped lead them to 4 straight years top 3 atlantic?

Im a knick fan and will be the first to tell you we overrate our guys. Look, I even called chandler dumb again. But these fans have 0 patience for that. Put that net team here and they get booed every night. Theres not enough fans in that building to boo. So what are the consequences for poor performance?

The nets are not better because devin harris is a gimmic. And there fans dont push him hard enough. He's not a young boy, and his resume is seasoned, you should demand more.

And BTW, Jay-Z owns such a minuscule percentage of the business venture you might as well call him there number one fan. Spike Lee has spent more money in MSG then has Jay-Z there. It should be viewed as insulting that the nets had to go outside of the country to get financed for there move from a very questionable person while Jay-Z is perpetrating himself as a owner of a NBA franchise stunting on the record as a don. The Don of NY had to get the Don of russia to help him. Thats how I see it, if you consider him a owner and a draw to FA's.

Im a honorable person and wish the nets the best of luck. I would say the same thing about harris if he was a knick. But a fan arguing the nets core should go to the games and boo devin harris. Bring all your friends the tickets are cheap. See if that motivates him. Do yourself a favor and trade him to the wolves.

At this age if Harris cant lift a team out of the basement its safe to say that he cant. Now ask how LBJ views the nets core. Ask a true winner how they view devin harris and his losing team. The nets could sign James and bosh and Harris would be the teams veteran. Thats not promising its sad.

Holy crap dude that post was fire.Wow post of the year right here folks.I liked it so muched I read it twice.Going on my 3rd time.Thats what the f Im talking about right here.

[2010]

This turned out to be a very entertaining thread. And much respect to KnicksMetsJetsNova and KnicksGod for tearing me a new one over my statement. Shout-out to Kane2021 too (he's been dropping bombs all over the board lately...here and in the Isiah vs. Magic (RAC) thread).

Just want to say I was inspired to start this thread to see if there was any remaining Knicks Pride on the board after all the years of all the losing and I'm pleasantly surprised to see 95% of the board stand up and fight for the team.

Over the past 3 years I don't think that would have been the case.

[KnicksScholar24]

Nets' young core, easy.

Harris, Lopez, and Williams are going to be really good. Yi, Douglas-Roberts, and Lee are also very good young players.

The question how many of those players are the Nets going to re-sign (besides Harris, whose was already re-signed)?

The Knicks might loss Lee and Robinson, so that will leave them with Gallinari (jury still out), Hill (so far looks like a complete scrub), Douglas (solid starter potential), and Chandler (very good starter potential).

[StutterStep]

^Hey Johnny since you came so late -- read the thread. j/k

[VCRJKidd15]

this thread should be published as a book and put in the comedy section at your local barnes and nobles. The homerism here is worse then the rators:lol:

[VCRJKidd15]

is this suppose to be a mega ton joke thread? because people who are saying harris is overrated have to be kidding themselves. You out this thread on the general board the only people who would say knicks core are the knick fans..

The Knicks could have Lebron James on their team and the General Board will still say the Nets core is better.

the fact that he knicks are more likely gonna lose lee and/or nate but think you still have the better team must be an early april fools joke from half the people here

[cgf]

this thread should be published as a book and put in the comedy section at your local barnes and nobles. The homerism here is worse then the rators:lol:

No worse than any nets fan claiming Devin Harris to be point guard, or that he's anything but a taller nate robinson for that matter.

[blueNorange]

this thread should be published as a book and put in the comedy section at your local barnes and nobles. The homerism here is worse then the rators:lol:

[VCRJKidd15]

this thread should be published as a book and put in the comedy section at your local barnes and nobles. The homerism here is worse then the rators:lol:

No worse than any nets fan claiming Devin Harris to be point guard, or that he's anything but a taller nate robinson for that matter.

so im assuming Nate has never made the all star game due to his height? Nate=Harris but shorter has to be the funniest thing next to Lopez being just a little bit better then that Small Foward you have playing at Center. There is a reason that anybody would agree that the Nets have everything better going for them except blind knick fans. It is not just the General Board that would agree with this. I mean the Knicks may have a lottery pick this year....wait no i forgot.

[can o peas]

this thread should be published as a book and put in the comedy section at your local barnes and nobles. The homerism here is worse then the rators:lol:

No worse than any nets fan claiming Devin Harris to be point guard, or that he's anything but a taller nate robinson for that matter.

every time I see your avatar I can practically smell the dank bud coming through my lcd.

[HighRyzer83]

I think the three most passionate Nets fans in the world are right here on the Knick message board.

LOL...can you believe the nerve of these guys?We had just beat them with 2 rookies and 3 guys that are going to get cut.And there still talking crap.

I would hope/think that before they came out with their guns blazing, it would be better if there was an actual shovel on the ground over in Brooklyn, rather than some cigarette butts and trannies, where the Nets' new arena is supposed to be. If they lose the lawsuit, they'll just be more cigarette butts and trannies, but no Nets and no LeBron.

And no nets fans for that matter. But everyone already knows there is really no such thing.