College/Draft thread. Knicks Currently have Picks 12 and 45

[moocow007]

MOAR KENTUCKYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sorry I went full Green Arrow with the !'s

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Booker
Fox
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Quick

Look, I understand one of these things is not like the others but they've been churning out good guards for a minute now and ones that are by and large underrated in college.

Jamal Murray when ACL heals and Tyler Herro 6moy easily and Keldon Johnson ain’t that bad either! Even Malik Monk looked like a serviceable role player this year let’s goooooo

Malik Monk is a less talented version of JR Smith.

[Polk377]

Mathurin would be the perfect wing to pair up with RJ and would fit seamlessly if we hand the keys to the young guys. IQ-Mathurin-RJ-Obi-Mitch. Use #11 plus a vet to trade up and get him.

not convinced hes better than Cam

like him tho

Why are people so obsessed with Cam? I hope he succeeds but he has failed to show he can be a reliable option and someone who can be counted on to stay healthy.

[DrCoach]

Mathurin would be the perfect wing to pair up with RJ and would fit seamlessly if we hand the keys to the young guys. IQ-Mathurin-RJ-Obi-Mitch. Use #11 plus a vet to trade up and get him.

not convinced hes better than Cam

like him tho

Why are people so obsessed with Cam? I hope he succeeds but he has failed to show he can be a reliable option and someone who can be counted on to stay healthy.

Im not sure who you are referring about in regards to being Obsessed. That said hes a young 6'8 wing with all the tools to be a Paul George type of player, he also dominated in the playoffs last season. Injuries have been a issue but nothing career altering

[Zenzibar]

PLEASE stop with this mindless Ty Ty blabber.

What a waste of a pick when we already have a developing IQ, Duece and a returning DRose.

Those are all bench players or in the case of McBride g-leaguers we still don’t have a starter. Rose might even get traded to a contender for all we know

So you want Ty Ty,
OK we see an immediate starting point guard for Thibs' team in Ty Ty.

[Knicksfan1992]

The more I've researched this draft the more I've fallen in love with this class as a whole. There are so many guys in our range that I think can have bright futures as elite role players and some have some "star" upside IMO. Lots of wings and combo guards who could fit perfect around a team built with IQ, RJ, Grimes, and Obi in mind. I'm way less pressed about not getting great lottery odds to tell you the truth. Just a few of the guys i'm intrigued by:

Mathurin
Johnny Davis
Blake Wesley
Jaden Hardy
Dyson Daniels
Agbaji
Christian Braun
Mark Williams
EJ Liddell
Wendell Moore
Tari Eason
Beauchamp

All those guys really pique my interest and a lot of them fit the bill of a wing or big connector type which the Knicks have sorely lacked for a while now.

[8516knicks]

The more I've researched this draft the more I've fallen in love with this class as a whole. There are so many guys in our range that I think can have bright futures as elite role players and some have some "star" upside IMO. Lots of wings and combo guards who could fit perfect around a team built with IQ, RJ, Grimes, and Obi in mind. I'm way less pressed about not getting great lottery odds to tell you the truth. Just a few of the guys i'm intrigued by:

Mathurin
Johnny Davis
Blake Wesley
Jaden Hardy
Dyson Daniels
Agbaji
Christian Braun
Mark Williams
EJ Liddell
Wendell Moore
Tari Eason
Beauchamp

All those guys really pique my interest and a lot of them fit the bill of a wing or big connector type which the Knicks have sorely lacked for a while now.

Kessler, Daniels, Wesley maybe Williams.

[robillionaire]

PLEASE stop with this mindless Ty Ty blabber.

What a waste of a pick when we already have a developing IQ, Duece and a returning DRose.

Those are all bench players or in the case of McBride g-leaguers we still don’t have a starter. Rose might even get traded to a contender for all we know

So you want Ty Ty,
OK we see an immediate starting point guard for Thibs' team in Ty Ty.

It doesn’t have to be “immediate” Tyrese Maxey wasn’t immediate he was a bench player most his rookie year and now look. Lamelo didn’t even start most his rookie year and now he is an all star.

They can start someone else until the pick emerges as a starter especially since next season is going to be another waste anyway. Start IQ and bring the rookie off the bench or knowing Thibs start Alec Burks again. But it’s a fantasy to think we are all set at the guard position and we have to draft for a position of greater need instead of a BPA (if they believe a guard is the BPA) when we don’t even have a proven starting caliber guard on the team

[HarthorneWingo]

Those are all bench players or in the case of McBride g-leaguers we still don’t have a starter. Rose might even get traded to a contender for all we know

So you want Ty Ty,
OK we see an immediate starting point guard for Thibs' team in Ty Ty.

It doesn’t have to be “immediate” Tyrese Maxey wasn’t immediate he was a bench player most his rookie year and now look. Lamelo didn’t even start most his rookie year and now he is an all star.

They can start someone else until the pick emerges as a starter especially since next season is going to be another waste anyway. Start IQ and bring the rookie off the bench or knowing Thibs start Alec Burks again. But it’s a fantasy to think we are all set at the guard position and we have to draft for a position of greater need instead of a BPA (if they believe a guard is the BPA) when we don’t even have a proven starting caliber guard on the team

What about Deuce?

[Zenzibar]

Those are all bench players or in the case of McBride g-leaguers we still don’t have a starter. Rose might even get traded to a contender for all we know

So you want Ty Ty,
OK we see an immediate starting point guard for Thibs' team in Ty Ty.

It doesn’t have to be “immediate” Tyrese Maxey wasn’t immediate he was a bench player most his rookie year and now look. Lamelo didn’t even start most his rookie year and now he is an all star.

They can start someone else until the pick emerges as a starter especially since next season is going to be another waste anyway. Start IQ and bring the rookie off the bench or knowing Thibs start Alec Burks again. But it’s a fantasy to think we are all set at the guard position and we have to draft for a position of greater need instead of a BPA (if they believe a guard is the BPA) when we don’t even have a proven starting caliber guard on the team

Stop it, it's too fkn early to read such non-sense. Ty ty will not even leave the bench this season or next. He can't shoot and can't defend, where's the glitter in this kid? Stop wasting key strokes my dude.

[-YogiBiz-]

not convinced hes better than Cam

like him tho

Why are people so obsessed with Cam? I hope he succeeds but he has failed to show he can be a reliable option and someone who can be counted on to stay healthy.

Im not sure who you are referring about in regards to being Obsessed. That said hes a young 6'8 wing with all the tools to be a Paul George type of player, he also dominated in the playoffs last season. Injuries have been a issue but nothing career altering

He doesn’t have a good handle. He can’t shoot. Doesn’t get to line often and he just happens to try on defense. He’s kinda ass.

And what does dominated mean in your dictionary. I typically hold that for guys who score over 30PPG on great efficiency for at least an entire series. Not a guy who averaged 12 points per game.

[robillionaire]

So you want Ty Ty,
OK we see an immediate starting point guard for Thibs' team in Ty Ty.

It doesn’t have to be “immediate” Tyrese Maxey wasn’t immediate he was a bench player most his rookie year and now look. Lamelo didn’t even start most his rookie year and now he is an all star.

They can start someone else until the pick emerges as a starter especially since next season is going to be another waste anyway. Start IQ and bring the rookie off the bench or knowing Thibs start Alec Burks again. But it’s a fantasy to think we are all set at the guard position and we have to draft for a position of greater need instead of a BPA (if they believe a guard is the BPA) when we don’t even have a proven starting caliber guard on the team

Stop it, it's too fkn early to read such non-sense. Ty ty will not even leave the bench this season or next. He can't shoot and can't defend, where's the glitter in this kid? Stop wasting key strokes my dude.

We are picking 11th not top 3 so no “glitter” is going to be available and there isn’t any “glitter” with most guys taken late lottery who turn out to be good or 21st in Maxey’s case so we will have to look past some flaws on anybody we select

I kept reading in the draft thread how Maxey can’t shoot because he shot 29% and his form is irreparably broken because he shoots with his hand in front of his face and that looks like it’s working out ok

[moocow007]

You guys still stuck on shooting 3's as a gauge of whether a guy can be a starting NBA PG?

[TerrenceClarke]

You guys still stuck on shooting 3's as a gauge of whether a guy can be a starting NBA PG?

Yes... Its one of the main reasons why some people here was sour on Lamelo coming out

[moocow007]

You guys still stuck on shooting 3's as a gauge of whether a guy can be a starting NBA PG?

Yes... Its one of the main reasons why some people here was sour on Lamelo coming out

I remember that. I was making the same argument then too.

This also applies to other players in the draft as well. Anthony Edwards was another guy that folks didn't like cause he can't shoot. That and he comes off too arrogant just like LaMelo. And Edwards not only has looked terrific offensively (improving across the board on what was already an ROY runner up rookie season behind ironically LaMelo) he's actually becoming a heck of a defender (he's arguably the best defender on the Wolves playoff team...the wolves are significantly better defensively when Edwards is on the court compared to when he's not). Moral is...there's a whole heck of a lot more that factors into whether a guy can or can't do real well in the NBA besides his ability to shoot a 3 and/or whether he comes off as too cocky. Not everyone can be Steph Curry and not only guys like Steph Curry can find great success in the NBA cause you have these two "**** that can't shoot 3's" leading their respective young teams to futures that look brighter than the Knicks. So stop with the cliche' prototype nonsense for the love of Pete Maravich.

[Meat]

You guys still stuck on shooting 3's as a gauge of whether a guy can be a starting NBA PG?

Yes... Its one of the main reasons why some people here was sour on Lamelo coming out

were people actually sour? or like mad he wasnt gonna be a knick?

[moocow007]

You guys still stuck on shooting 3's as a gauge of whether a guy can be a starting NBA PG?

Yes... Its one of the main reasons why some people here was sour on Lamelo coming out

were people actually sour? or like mad he wasnt gonna be a knick?

They were sour. Because he comes off as an ass and can't shoot 3's. Calling him all sorts of things. I honestly don't remember a draft where the projected top 3 guys were hated more by more people than that 2020 draft. And all cause of the same old criteria (can't shoot 3's, comes off as a selfish ass). They don't want those types of players being cancers on a young team especially if they can't shoot 3's. So far sure looks like Edwards and Ball have done nothing but made their respective teams much better and themselves look like burgeoning stars/superstars in the making. Folks couldn't get pass the shooting and the personality.

[Meat]

Yes... Its one of the main reasons why some people here was sour on Lamelo coming out

were people actually sour? or like mad he wasnt gonna be a knick?

They were sour. Because he comes off as an ass and can't shoot 3's. Calling him all sorts of things. I honestly don't remember a draft where the projected top 3 guys were hated more by more people than that 2020 draft. And all cause of the same old criteria (can't shoot 3's, comes off as a selfish ass). They don't want those types of players being cancers on a young team especially if they can't shoot 3's. So far sure looks like Edwards and Ball have done nothing but made their respective teams much better and themselves look like burgeoning stars/superstars in the making. Folks couldn't get pass the shooting and the personality.

wait, are we on an old man forum? where people are mad at kids for "not playing the game the right way"

[knickstape21]

Malaki Branham is an early favorite for me. Surprised he hasn’t been mentioned much. Has a Levert/Middleton vibe to his game.

[Zenzibar]

Malaki Branham is an early favorite for me. Surprised he hasn’t been mentioned much. Has a Levert/Middleton vibe to his game.

I never watched Ohio State and didn't know about this kid. But he is a flame thrower: Short game, long game, drives.
Noticed also that he was featured on offense, looks extremely gifted offensively. Spot on with the Middleton comp.

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[Spree2Houston]

If Shaedon Sharpe declares, then I’m hoping for him.