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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1601 » by robillionaire » Fri Jul 8, 2022 2:32 pm

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Orange Mamba wrote:Those Ivey highlights are so painful to watch. Big shame we’ll never have a guard as dynamic as him

It is pathetic really. We should have tried so hard to get him but probably didn’t.


I feel like we honestly did. This FO was just not willing to take the short-term pain needed to get a talent like Ivey or Luka or Trae, etc. You can't throw a bunch of shat together with the 11th pick and think you can get the 4th.

The problem is, I don't think these guys are smart enough to rebuild the other way. There are teams that can rebuild on the fly without ever getting a lotto pick, like the Rockets, but those teams were run by guys like Morey. Then again, the guys rebuilding through getting a ton of strong lotto picks, like Detroit and OKC, also seem a lot smarter than our guys.


I don’t, Brunson has been the PG target for these guys for months because we knew he was coming because we tampered with his dad or whatever. They didn’t want a rookie PG. That was all clickbait
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1602 » by Knicksfan1992 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 2:40 pm

Ivey is not a PG...
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1603 » by KnicksGadfly » Fri Jul 8, 2022 2:44 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:It is pathetic really. We should have tried so hard to get him but probably didn’t.


I feel like we honestly did. This FO was just not willing to take the short-term pain needed to get a talent like Ivey or Luka or Trae, etc. You can't throw a bunch of shat together with the 11th pick and think you can get the 4th.

The problem is, I don't think these guys are smart enough to rebuild the other way. There are teams that can rebuild on the fly without ever getting a lotto pick, like the Rockets, but those teams were run by guys like Morey. Then again, the guys rebuilding through getting a ton of strong lotto picks, like Detroit and OKC, also seem a lot smarter than our guys.


I don’t, Brunson has been the PG target for these guys for months because we knew he was coming because we tampered with his dad or whatever. They didn’t want a rookie PG. That was all clickbait


Might be true. Like I said, the time to get a boner for Ivey was mid or early season, not at the end of the year. So wouldn't be surprised if it was clickbait.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1604 » by robillionaire » Fri Jul 8, 2022 2:49 pm

Fat Kat wrote:Stop it with the self-pity. It’s unproductive and it’s pathetic.


He had an ok stat line 20 on 6-14, 6 and 6 with 5 turnovers -2 in a summer league scrimmage playing against plumbers and firemen I’ve seen more impressive outings by Kevin Knox no cap

Our PG just had 41 8 and 6 with 0 turnovers in a playoff win like a month ago

The tank drunk portion of the Knicks fandom must be stopped very disrespectful people Brunson doesn’t deserve this!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1605 » by mpharris36 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 2:53 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:Ivey is not a PG...


He's Donovan Mitchell
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1606 » by KnixinSix » Fri Jul 8, 2022 2:56 pm

Knicksfan1992 wrote:Ivey is not a PG...


Ivey is kinda Donovon Mitchell but with more height and maybe higher defensive upside. He really would have been a perfect fit along side Brunson at the 2 backup 1 spot.
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Post#1607 » by Deeeez Knicks » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:04 pm

I like the way Eason looked. I think he got slept on.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1608 » by Knicksfan1992 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:09 pm

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Knicksfan1992 wrote:Ivey is not a PG...


Ivey is kinda Donovon Mitchell but with more height and maybe higher defensive upside. He really would have been a perfect fit along side Brunson at the 2 backup 1 spot.


Yep I think this is why they targeted him so hard. If his jumper comes along he's basically the ideal 3rd backcourt member with RJ and Brunson
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1609 » by Meat » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:20 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:It is pathetic really. We should have tried so hard to get him but probably didn’t.


I feel like we honestly did. This FO was just not willing to take the short-term pain needed to get a talent like Ivey or Luka or Trae, etc. You can't throw a bunch of shat together with the 11th pick and think you can get the 4th.

The problem is, I don't think these guys are smart enough to rebuild the other way. There are teams that can rebuild on the fly without ever getting a lotto pick, like the Rockets, but those teams were run by guys like Morey. Then again, the guys rebuilding through getting a ton of strong lotto picks, like Detroit and OKC, also seem a lot smarter than our guys.


I don’t, Brunson has been the PG target for these guys for months because we knew he was coming because we tampered with his dad or whatever. They didn’t want a rookie PG. That was all clickbait

but he's a sg not a pg, and seeing how well no trades were made despite okc having all the assets, it should be evident teams were not ever going to trade out of the top 5
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1610 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:35 pm

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spree2kawhi wrote:It is pathetic really. We should have tried so hard to get him but probably didn’t.


I feel like we honestly did. This FO was just not willing to take the short-term pain needed to get a talent like Ivey or Luka or Trae, etc. You can't throw a bunch of shat together with the 11th pick and think you can get the 4th.

The problem is, I don't think these guys are smart enough to rebuild the other way. There are teams that can rebuild on the fly without ever getting a lotto pick, like the Rockets, but those teams were run by guys like Morey. Then again, the guys rebuilding through getting a ton of strong lotto picks, like Detroit and OKC, also seem a lot smarter than our guys.


I don’t, Brunson has been the PG target for these guys for months because we knew he was coming because we tampered with his dad or whatever. They didn’t want a rookie PG. That was all clickbait

Needless to say, Ivey will be better and is much more dynamic and younger though.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1611 » by stuporman » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:44 pm

I know Houston has alot of guard and wing talent on their team but they might have just been better off taking Ivey if Banchero and Chet were gone....Smith is going to take a few seasons to develop and it looks like Ivey is ready to contribute right away.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1612 » by spree2kawhi » Fri Jul 8, 2022 3:47 pm

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robillionaire wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
I feel like we honestly did. This FO was just not willing to take the short-term pain needed to get a talent like Ivey or Luka or Trae, etc. You can't throw a bunch of shat together with the 11th pick and think you can get the 4th.

The problem is, I don't think these guys are smart enough to rebuild the other way. There are teams that can rebuild on the fly without ever getting a lotto pick, like the Rockets, but those teams were run by guys like Morey. Then again, the guys rebuilding through getting a ton of strong lotto picks, like Detroit and OKC, also seem a lot smarter than our guys.


I don’t, Brunson has been the PG target for these guys for months because we knew he was coming because we tampered with his dad or whatever. They didn’t want a rookie PG. That was all clickbait

but he's a sg not a pg, and seeing how well no trades were made despite okc having all the assets, it should be evident teams were not ever going to trade out of the top 5

And that shows you how moronic this franchise is for always going the mediocre route. We needed to **** tank this pointless season.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1613 » by G_K_F » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:02 pm

Deeeez Knicks wrote:I like the way Eason looked. I think he got slept on.

Not by me he didn't.

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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1614 » by KnicksGadfly » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:17 pm

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Fat Kat wrote:Stop it with the self-pity. It’s unproductive and it’s pathetic.


He had an ok stat line 20 on 6-14, 6 and 6 with 5 turnovers -2 in a summer league scrimmage playing against plumbers and firemen I’ve seen more impressive outings by Kevin Knox no cap

Our PG just had 41 8 and 6 with 0 turnovers in a playoff win like a month ago

The tank drunk portion of the Knicks fandom must be stopped very disrespectful people Brunson doesn’t deserve this!!!!!!!!!


Brunson doesn't, but he signed up with a bunch of people who do.

Brunson can definitely earn his check if he wrests "leadership" from Randle (although Randle probably lost it to RJ already) changes this team's culture, and helps our young guys make a leap: RJ, Mitch, Grimes, Obi, etc. Hell, maybe he'll revive Fournier and Randle's value so we can trade the latter.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1615 » by robillionaire » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:28 pm

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robillionaire wrote:
Fat Kat wrote:Stop it with the self-pity. It’s unproductive and it’s pathetic.


He had an ok stat line 20 on 6-14, 6 and 6 with 5 turnovers -2 in a summer league scrimmage playing against plumbers and firemen I’ve seen more impressive outings by Kevin Knox no cap

Our PG just had 41 8 and 6 with 0 turnovers in a playoff win like a month ago

The tank drunk portion of the Knicks fandom must be stopped very disrespectful people Brunson doesn’t deserve this!!!!!!!!!


Brunson doesn't, but he signed up with a bunch of people who do.

Brunson can definitely earn his check if he wrests "leadership" from Randle (although Randle probably lost it to RJ already) changes this team's culture, and helps our young guys make a leap: RJ, Mitch, Grimes, Obi, etc. Hell, maybe he'll revive Fournier and Randle's value so we can trade the latter.


Brunson is 25 Obi Hartenstein and Mitch are 24 IQ and Sims are 23 RJ Grimes are 22, McBride 21. it’s really not even that much of a difference. Even Randle is somehow just 27. It’s a pretty young core. As far as I’m concerned it’s Brunson’s team and he’s the “vet leader” at 25 since he’s tasted playoff success. Randle led the team to the playoffs once but he needs to be a 3rd option and RJ is only leading us to the lottery if we let him chuck to 20 like he did last season. So yeah give Brunson the keys and let’s go
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Post#1616 » by iLLmatic860 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:34 pm

I think i heard begley say heat called about Randle
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Post#1617 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:38 pm

iLLmatic860 wrote:I think i heard begley say heat called about Randle


They can send us Bam and they can go get Ayton.

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Post#1618 » by G_K_F » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:38 pm

iLLmatic860 wrote:I think i heard begley say heat called about Randle

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Post#1619 » by stuporman » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:42 pm

iLLmatic860 wrote:I think i heard begley say heat called about Randle


Riley wants to unload Robinson's contract and probably thinks...hey, the Knicks need shooters and they want to trade Randle. hmmmmmmmmm

He'll want to send Robinson but Rose should counter with Herro....I'm not sure there's a match to be made in the pieces, though.
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Re: Leaguewide Offseason Transactions Discussion 

Post#1620 » by ADeP7 » Fri Jul 8, 2022 4:42 pm

iLLmatic860 wrote:I think i heard begley say heat called about Randle


Was this on the callin with Jake Fischer ?

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