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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1601 » by Wildcat » Wed May 29, 2024 5:37 pm

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I'm a fit guy. DeMar as the starting 2 creates the same issue we had with RJ and Randle with spacing. I also don't think DeMar can or should guard 2 guards. I would certainly prefer him off the bench. It does a couple of things, such eliminate the need for a ball handler when Josh isn't running the fastbreak, go-to scorer when JB and Randle are sitting (or off), insurance for OG and Randle (I'm predicting 70+ games for OG next season, though, because he "needs" it end of season allocates like all defensive team) if they get hurt.

Though, I'm not sure if his priorities is money or contention. Hard to imagine he's a Bull when the dust settles. He's the only official free agent I'm curious as to where he'll land, because I think he works out on teams like 76ers. By trade, I can't see a Cavs fit if Garland is traded.


DeMar is a much more efficient shooter and scorer than RJ. And he’s great in the clutch.


I'd consider DeMar if he's open to being a 6th man... 28 mins or so...

DeMar (S&T) + Caruso*
for
Mitch Rob + Bogs + McBride + #25 + #38

*can be done in two transactions, if needed

iHart / Precious
Randle / Hart
OG / DeMar
DDV / Caruso
Brunson

Best bench in the NBA and one of the better starting line-ups...


Yeah, I do agree on the bench role. That trade (getting Alex) would be such a dream scenario. If that could happen, that'd be amazing.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1602 » by WargamesX » Wed May 29, 2024 5:37 pm

dakomish23 wrote:https://youtu.be/?si=Llr_OLxkMf6aHde5

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Stuff like this is why real Knicks fans loathe SAS. :roll:
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1603 » by Wildcat » Wed May 29, 2024 5:41 pm

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I'm a fit guy. DeMar as the starting 2 creates the same issue we had with RJ and Randle with spacing. I also don't think DeMar can or should guard 2 guards. I would certainly prefer him off the bench. It does a couple of things, such eliminate the need for a ball handler when Josh isn't running the fastbreak, go-to scorer when JB and Randle are sitting (or off), insurance for OG and Randle (I'm predicting 70+ games for OG next season, though, because he "needs" it end of season allocates like all defensive team) if they get hurt.

Though, I'm not sure if his priorities is money or contention. Hard to imagine he's a Bull when the dust settles. He's the only official free agent I'm curious as to where he'll land, because I think he works out on teams like 76ers. By trade, I can't see a Cavs fit if Garland is traded.


DeMar is a much more efficient shooter and scorer than RJ. And he’s great in the clutch.


Are we talking about the same DeFrozen? Man has a whole set of nicknames based on how he paved the way for Randle and KAT in the playoffs

If he wants, he should just come off our bench. But if I were him, I’d just take that fat contract from Chicago.


I played all right in the play-in. There's that, I suppose.
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1604 » by DaGawd » Wed May 29, 2024 5:43 pm

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HarthorneWingo wrote:
Wildcat wrote:
I'm a fit guy. DeMar as the starting 2 creates the same issue we had with RJ and Randle with spacing. I also don't think DeMar can or should guard 2 guards. I would certainly prefer him off the bench. It does a couple of things, such eliminate the need for a ball handler when Josh isn't running the fastbreak, go-to scorer when JB and Randle are sitting (or off), insurance for OG and Randle (I'm predicting 70+ games for OG next season, though, because he "needs" it end of season allocates like all defensive team) if they get hurt.

Though, I'm not sure if his priorities is money or contention. Hard to imagine he's a Bull when the dust settles. He's the only official free agent I'm curious as to where he'll land, because I think he works out on teams like 76ers. By trade, I can't see a Cavs fit if Garland is traded.


DeMar is a much more efficient shooter and scorer than RJ. And he’s great in the clutch.


Are we talking about the same DeFrozen? Man has a whole set of nicknames based on how he paved the way for Randle and KAT in the playoffs

If he wants, he should just come off our bench. But if I were him, I’d just take that fat contract from Chicago.

fit and role is everything brother. he’s always had to be the man every stop he’s been to. (he and lowry were like both 1a and b in toronto) here he’d have the luxury of playing with an unquestionable 1a in brunson and all he’d have to do is fill in the gaps
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1605 » by Wildcat » Wed May 29, 2024 5:46 pm

dakomish23 wrote:https://youtu.be/?si=Llr_OLxkMf6aHde5

:roll:


SAS makes some fair points (I know, I know) because I have that internal debate myself. Culture and Randle vs. aloof and talented. I'm always going to side with culture, but I don't think it's something we should automatically assume it's trash setup. A pick and pop/roll with KD and JB would be stupidly good.
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Post#1606 » by sol537 » Wed May 29, 2024 5:49 pm

Wildcat wrote:
sol537 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
DeMar is a much more efficient shooter and scorer than RJ. And he’s great in the clutch.


I'd consider DeMar if he's open to being a 6th man... 28 mins or so...

DeMar (S&T) + Caruso*
for
Mitch Rob + Bogs + McBride + #25 + #38

*can be done in two transactions, if needed

iHart / Precious
Randle / Hart
OG / DeMar
DDV / Caruso
Brunson

Best bench in the NBA and one of the better starting line-ups...


Yeah, I do agree on the bench role. That trade (getting Alex) would be such a dream scenario. If that could happen, that'd be amazing.


It's time Chicago rips off the band-aid and goes with a youth movement. Trade Demar, Caruso, and Lavine to recoup whatever the market will give them. Keep adding more youth to their core: White, Williams, Dosunmu... McBride & Mitch fit their timeline. They don't have a '25 pick (dumb) but they can develop the youth while they tank for solid '26 and '27 picks. They have the 11th pick this draft... adding #25 and #38 to that gives them more at bats to get some additional hits.
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Post#1607 » by Jay10 » Wed May 29, 2024 5:58 pm

dakomish23 wrote:https://youtu.be/?si=Llr_OLxkMf6aHde5

:roll:


ESPN doing what they usually do to get through slow periods: create a story out of thin air by including a big market for the easy clicks. :lol:
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Post#1608 » by Fat » Wed May 29, 2024 6:08 pm

Derozan :lol:
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Post#1609 » by KnixinSix » Wed May 29, 2024 6:26 pm

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KnixinSix wrote:All Spidah has to do is make it super clear to them he will not sign in the offseason and I cant see how they would keep him for one last run unless they were convinced they could make themselves a true title contender. Otherwise you lose him for nothing end of next year.


They have a flawed roster. If they blow it up by using Garland and one of the big men, they can put together a roster more suited to Spida.

Every time he talks, I'm just not getting the sense he wants to get the hell out of dodge. That money is too great on the table. There's no reason to let go of Bickerstaff if there wasn't a bigger play going on behind the scenes. That move was very much a precursor to keeping Spida.


Maybe. I think you present some valid points . But I still see reasons for him to leave too.
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Post#1610 » by Knicksfan1992 » Wed May 29, 2024 6:30 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
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KnixinSix wrote:All Spidah has to do is make it super clear to them he will not sign in the offseason and I cant see how they would keep him for one last run unless they were convinced they could make themselves a true title contender. Otherwise you lose him for nothing end of next year.


They have a flawed roster. If they blow it up by using Garland and one of the big men, they can put together a roster more suited to Spida.

Every time he talks, I'm just not getting the sense he wants to get the hell out of dodge. That money is too great on the table. There's no reason to let go of Bickerstaff if there wasn't a bigger play going on behind the scenes. That move was very much a precursor to keeping Spida.


Maybe. I think you present some valid points . But I still see reasons for him to leave too.


The number 1 reason being you can't move Cleveland on a map :lol:
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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1611 » by KnixinSix » Wed May 29, 2024 6:31 pm

sol537 wrote:
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sol537 wrote:Let's keep our focus on guys who are under 30 who can be with us for the next 5+ years potentially. If we start bringing in 35 year olds, we start shortening our window.

Spida and Mikal still in play. PG13 and Butler... not so much.

I wonder which teams are finally going to blow it up like Utah and Portland did recently... CHI? MIA? LAC?


Knicks don't need to turn a blind eye over anyone in their 30's. If there's a fit, there's a fit. Spida is out of play. Cleveland doesn't fire their coach after a successful season if there wasn't a bigger plan behind the scenes. I already voiced my thoughts on Bridges.


I'd still put it at 50-50 Spida asks out and ends up in BRK, NYK, MIA or in Cali... Cleveland is worse than Utah (as a place to live lol)



Agreed on it being a possibility of either way.




I think the initial asking price of course will be high.

What I think we would give them would be:

McBride (the defensive combo guard they need to pair with Garland)
Bogdanovic (scoring vet forward and salary filler)
Mitchell Robinson (great contract for a top defensive C)
2-3 FRPS

for Mitchell and Okoro.

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Re: Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread 

Post#1612 » by GONYK » Wed May 29, 2024 6:32 pm

If Mitchell truly wanted to be a Knick, he could have exerted more influence on the process. I think we're overestimating his desire level.
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Post#1613 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed May 29, 2024 6:41 pm

Fat wrote:Derozan :lol:

So what’s your big move this offseason Fatman?
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Post#1614 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed May 29, 2024 6:45 pm

DaGawd wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
DeMar is a much more efficient shooter and scorer than RJ. And he’s great in the clutch.


Are we talking about the same DeFrozen? Man has a whole set of nicknames based on how he paved the way for Randle and KAT in the playoffs

If he wants, he should just come off our bench. But if I were him, I’d just take that fat contract from Chicago.

fit and role is everything brother. he’s always had to be the man every stop he’s been to. (he and lowry were like both 1a and b in toronto) here he’d have the luxury of playing with an unquestionable 1a in brunson and all he’d have to do is fill in the gaps


I think he’s a better fit with the starters. Let Donte and Josh come off the bench together with Mitch and Deuce Caruso.
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Post#1615 » by KnixinSix » Wed May 29, 2024 7:21 pm



This could lend credence to what WildCat is saying on Mitchell.

Hope it's not true because that would suck for us losing him as a coach.
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Post#1616 » by The Lamma » Wed May 29, 2024 8:19 pm

KnixinSix wrote:

This could lend credence to what WildCat is saying on Mitchell.

Hope it's not true because that would suck for us losing him as a coach.


Have a hard time listening to that guy already, which he instantly made worse by pronouncing Rokas' last name "Jacka"baitus
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Post#1617 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed May 29, 2024 8:47 pm

The Lamma wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:

This could lend credence to what WildCat is saying on Mitchell.

Hope it's not true because that would suck for us losing him as a coach.


Have a hard time listening to that guy already, which he instantly made worse by pronouncing Rokas' last name "Jacka"baitus

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Post#1618 » by Spree2Houston » Wed May 29, 2024 8:53 pm

Welp I guess no Donovan Spider
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Post#1619 » by spree2kawhi » Wed May 29, 2024 10:13 pm

Wildcat wrote:
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Wildcat wrote:I'm curious where DeMar's head at. Does he want big money or chance at a ring? I love thr idea of him off the bench.


doubtful a player of demar’s caliber would want to come off the bench, but i wouldn’t mind him either as a starter even


I'm a fit guy. DeMar as the starting 2 creates the same issue we had with RJ and Randle with spacing. I also don't think DeMar can or should guard 2 guards. I would certainly prefer him off the bench. It does a couple of things, such eliminate the need for a ball handler when Josh isn't running the fastbreak, go-to scorer when JB and Randle are sitting (or off), insurance for OG and Randle (I'm predicting 70+ games for OG next season, though, because he "needs" it end of season allocates like all defensive team) if they get hurt.

Though, I'm not sure if his priorities is money or contention. Hard to imagine he's a Bull when the dust settles. He's the only official free agent I'm curious as to where he'll land, because I think he works out on teams like 76ers. By trade, I can't see a Cavs fit if Garland is traded.

For a fit guy you’re strangely averse to trading for towns, a 7‘0 shooter.
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Post#1620 » by thebuzzardman » Wed May 29, 2024 10:30 pm

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