July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread

[stuporman]

Boozer's hairline prevents him from being a Knick, clearly Jax has a player type he looks for and his hair just doesn't meet the criteria.

[Fat Kat]

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[E-Balla]

People overracting over SL performance by Seth Curry??
He is 24. There is a reason he is not in an nba roster. SMH.

There should be a prospectus for SL like they do when you buy stocks. "Past summer league performance is not indicative of future nba performance."

He shot 47% from deep last year on 8 attempts a night and 93% on his freethrows. Everytime I watchedbhim in the DLeague last year he was the best player on the floor and the same is true now in the SL. I've been telling y'all he's a monster. At worse he's Eddie House.

[Dirkbaka]

People overracting over SL performance by Seth Curry??
He is 24. There is a reason he is not in an nba roster. SMH.

There should be a prospectus for SL like they do when you buy stocks. "Past summer league performance is not indicative of future nba performance."

He shot 47% from deep last year on 8 attempts a night and 93% on his freethrows. Everytime I watchedbhim in the DLeague last year he was the best player on the floor and the same is true now in the SL. I've been telling y'all he's a monster. At worse he's Eddie House.

Being the best HS varsity player doesn't mean you will succeed in college. Same with SL and Dleague. He is too small to play sg and not skilled enough to be a pg. He is a small tweener.

I'll pass, so have 29 other teams.

[JBreezeNY]

Said it last year that there's a reason Seth will always be a mainstay in the D League.

He can shoot the lights out as much as he wants he's still a bum. Sh*tty defense, undersized, sh*t athleticism, sh*tty playmaker, he's not even better than Austin Rivers.

[E-Balla]

Said it last year that there's a reason Seth will always be a mainstay in the D League.

He can shoot the lights out as much as he wants he's still a bum. Sh*tty defense, undersized, sh*t athleticism, sh*tty playmaker, he's not even better than Austin Rivers.

He was better than Austin when they were on the same team and he's improved more than Austin has. I mean Austin was the PG and he couldn't average more assists than Seth. Austin was the worst player in the Duke starting 5 that year.

People overracting over SL performance by Seth Curry??
He is 24. There is a reason he is not in an nba roster. SMH.

There should be a prospectus for SL like they do when you buy stocks. "Past summer league performance is not indicative of future nba performance."

He shot 47% from deep last year on 8 attempts a night and 93% on his freethrows. Everytime I watched him in the DLeague last year he was the best player on the floor and the same is true now in the SL. I've been telling y'all he's a monster. At worse he's Eddie House.

Being the best HS varsity player doesn't mean you will succeed in college. Same with SL and Dleague. He is too small to play sg and not skilled enough to be a pg. He is a small tweener.

I'll pass, so have 29 other teams.

Sounds like a description of Steve Kerr. No one is saying he's great but he can be a Steve Kerr/Eddie House type 9/2/2 guy off the bench easily. He's probably the best three point shooter not in the league right now.

[digitaldropoff]

LOL.....how is there a debate over Seth Curry being worth a damn? He's good enough to be DNP CD guy in the NBA, that's it.

[Fat Kat]

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[3toheadmelo]

if seth curry was on our knicks summer league all of u haters would be on his nuts smh

[N Y K]

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[NoLayupRule]

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Christmas was a main target of mine for the 2nd round

Id love to offer this kid a partially guaranteed contract and invite him to training camp.

if need be he can get paid in the D-League

but he's a good prospect

[NBA Fan 1234]

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Curry's biggest weaknesses the last few years was his playmaking / defense. Watching him during SL, he's improved those and is definitely worthy of a spot on a team. Like E-Balla said, worst case scenario, he's Eddie House.

[Concrete Jungle]

Seth Curry is the prime example of NBA teams thinking too much and trying to be too smart

[moocow007]

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Christmas was a main target of mine for the 2nd round

Id love to offer this kid a partially guaranteed contract and invite him to training camp.

if need be he can get paid in the D-League

but he's a good prospect

I'm in with Christmas in July.

[NoLayupRule]

Seth Curry is the prime example of NBA teams thinking too much and trying to be too smart

how so

by not signing him because of age or something?

or by thinking he's gonna be good because his brother is MVP?

[moocow007]

A quick scan of remaining free agents would seem to indicate that there aren't that many "bench offense" type players left.

Here's basically a run down of players that have proven that they can actually score respectably enough coming off the bench for an NBA team in the past (I'm considering anyone that has averaged 10 or more points in an NBA season in a backup role for more than a handful of games as a "bench scorer" option).

Have included their (age in parenthesis) along with a blurb about each relating to their current state...also in no particular order:

Charlie Villanueva (30) - Former NYC product, a stretch 4 type that has some length at 6'11" but cant do much of anything else
Carlos Boozer (33) - He can still score and rebound...a la Amare...but defense has been brutal to the point where he's a huge liability on the defensive end...a la Amare
JR Smith (29) - Hiya
Dorell Wright (29) - a shell of his former self, nothing more than a corner 3 guy these days...surprising since he's only 29.
Jason Richardson (34) - can still be a potent scorer and has retained a portion of his athleticism, but not the most efficient guy
Jason Terry (37) - I just listed him for completeness of list, but I don't think any Knick fan would want him...plus rumored to be going back to Houston
Glen Davis (29) - big, fat, selfish, troublemaker that has talent
Michael Beasley (26) - still extremely talented offensive player, youngest guy on the list, was a very good solider last season for Miami from most reports, able passer and shooter.
Nate Robinson (31) - we all know what Robinson can do, he's just older and a bit slower now
Ben Gordon (32) - always seemed to play his best at MSG...a shell of the former player but still could be a solid veteran
Chris Copeland (31) - again, we know what Copeland does and doesn't do very well
John Salmons (35) - Salmons would probably be just for veteran stability at this point...assuming he doesn't retire.
Will Bynum (32) - has always been an explosive type backup combo guard for the Pistons, tough, but at just 6'1" really has a sign issue defensively
Chris Douglas Roberts (28) - can we really deal with both him and Derrick Williams in the running for worst hair style in the NBA? he's a skilled offensive player but doesn't play defense and has a rumor of being a prick.

Basically a bunch of past their prime players hanging on, a bunch of "baggage heavy" talents and a few borderline NBA guys that are known for their offense.

[3toheadmelo]

A quick scan of remaining free agents would seem to indicate that there aren't that many "bench offense" type players left.

Here's basically a run down of players that have proven that they can actually score respectably enough coming off the bench for an NBA team in the past (I'm considering anyone that has averaged 10 or more points in an NBA season in a backup role for more than a handful of games as a "bench scorer" option).

Have included their (age in parenthesis) along with a blurb about each relating to their current state...also in no particular order:

Charlie Villanueva (30) - Former NYC product, a stretch 4 type that has some length at 6'11" but cant do much of anything else
Carlos Boozer (33) - He can still score and rebound...a la Amare...but defense has been brutal to the point where he's a huge liability on the defensive end...a la Amare
JR Smith (29) - Hiya
Dorell Wright (29) - a shell of his former self, nothing more than a corner 3 guy these days...surprising since he's only 29.
Jason Richardson (34) - can still be a potent scorer and has retained a portion of his athleticism, but not the most efficient guy
Jason Terry (37) - I just listed him for completeness of list, but I don't think any Knick fan would want him...plus rumored to be going back to Houston
Glen Davis (29) - big, fat, selfish, troublemaker that has talent
Michael Beasley (26) - still extremely talented offensive player, youngest guy on the list, was a very good solider last season for Miami from most reports, able passer and shooter.
Nate Robinson (31) - we all know what Robinson can do, he's just older and a bit slower now
Ben Gordon (32) - always seemed to play his best at MSG...a shell of the former player but still could be a solid veteran
Chris Copeland (31) - again, we know what Copeland does and doesn't do very well
John Salmons (35) - Salmons would probably be just for veteran stability at this point...assuming he doesn't retire.
Will Bynum (32) - has always been an explosive type backup combo guard for the Pistons, tough, but at just 6'1" really has a sign issue defensively
Chris Douglas Roberts (28) - can we really deal with both him and Derrick Williams in the running for worst hair style in the NBA? he's a skilled offensive player but doesn't play defense and has a rumor of being a prick.

Basically a bunch of past their prime players hanging on, a bunch of "baggage heavy" talents and a few borderline NBA guys that are known for their offense.

beasley wouldnt be a bad addition to our team.. appearntly a lot of heat fans want him back too

[Concrete Jungle]

Seth Curry is the prime example of NBA teams thinking too much and trying to be too smart

how so

by not signing him because of age or something?

or by thinking he's gonna be good because his brother is MVP?

I feel like their over thinking when it comes to him, he has NBA skills and I'm not saying he's someone you can build around but he can be a nice piece off the bench for team.

[moocow007]

And here's a list of players that could offer some depth at the "small forward" spot (these are guys that have been considered SF's for the bulk of their NBA careers)...

Luigi Datome (27) - a bit of a hard read on this Euro...he's got skills (it's what got him an NBA signing) and he showed that he can shoot (shot 47% from 3 for the Celtics to close out last season) but has been bleh for the 1.5 years prior to that. May be a good fit for the Triangle.
Dorell Wright (29) - if this was the Dorell Wright that most rolks probably remember, he'd no longer be available, but boy talk about letting yourself go to the dumps. Basically just a guy that takes corner 3's now.
Tayshaun Prince (35) - still a somewhat able veteran that obviously has the right type of experience and know what it takes to win, may be more of a PF at this point in his career though
Rasual Butler (36) - Butler should receive an award for his ability to hang on in the NBA despite not having any real particularly good skill but, at 36? Probably not going to be able to do much of anything.
Richard Jefferson (35) - he's kinda like Jason Terry now, where the mind might be willing but the body is just not enough anymore
Shawn Marion (37) - really fell off the map after being one of the "great signings" by the Cavs before last season. He was supposed to be the perimeter player they needed and that went so well that the Cavs traded for both Shumpert and Smith to fill that role...but still...maybe?
James Jones (34) - pretty much just a situational jump shooter that's been bouncing around in the league because he's one of Lebron's bff's.
Michael Beasley (26) - again, extremely talented guy that has baggage.
Landry Fields (27) - might he work better in the Triangle? Do we even care?
Shawne Williams (29) - Purple Drank Part Deux?
Luc Mbah A Moute (28) - before you go "yeah!", he just failed a physical bad enough to scare the team he was going to sign with to immediately void his contract
Victor Klaver (26) - really had been nearly invisible his 1st 2 seasons in the NBA with Portland, but the tall 6'10" SF looked very good shooting in limited games last season.
Austin Daye (26) - the once hyped prospect is 6'11" tall...so there.

Probably a little bit more exciting then the "bench scorer" list but not really overwhelming either.

[Fat Kat]

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