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Re: July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread 

Post#16061 » by NoLayupRule » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:37 pm

moocow007 wrote:A quick scan of remaining free agents would seem to indicate that there aren't that many "bench offense" type players left.

Here's basically a run down of players that have proven that they can actually score respectably enough coming off the bench for an NBA team in the past (I'm considering anyone that has averaged 10 or more points in an NBA season in a backup role for more than a handful of games as a "bench scorer" option).

Have included their (age in parenthesis) along with a blurb about each relating to their current state...also in no particular order:

Charlie Villanueva (30) - Former NYC product, a stretch 4 type that has some length at 6'11" but cant do much of anything else
Carlos Boozer (33) - He can still score and rebound...a la Amare...but defense has been brutal to the point where he's a huge liability on the defensive end...a la Amare
JR Smith (29) - Hiya
Dorell Wright (29) - a shell of his former self, nothing more than a corner 3 guy these days...surprising since he's only 29.
Jason Richardson (34) - can still be a potent scorer and has retained a portion of his athleticism, but not the most efficient guy
Jason Terry (37) - I just listed him for completeness of list, but I don't think any Knick fan would want him...plus rumored to be going back to Houston
Glen Davis (29) - big, fat, selfish, troublemaker that has talent
Michael Beasley (26) - still extremely talented offensive player, youngest guy on the list, was a very good solider last season for Miami from most reports, able passer and shooter.
Nate Robinson (31) - we all know what Robinson can do, he's just older and a bit slower now
Ben Gordon (32) - always seemed to play his best at MSG...a shell of the former player but still could be a solid veteran
Chris Copeland (31) - again, we know what Copeland does and doesn't do very well
John Salmons (35) - Salmons would probably be just for veteran stability at this point...assuming he doesn't retire.
Will Bynum (32) - has always been an explosive type backup combo guard for the Pistons, tough, but at just 6'1" really has a sign issue defensively
Chris Douglas Roberts (28) - can we really deal with both him and Derrick Williams in the running for worst hair style in the NBA? he's a skilled offensive player but doesn't play defense and has a rumor of being a prick.

Basically a bunch of past their prime players hanging on, a bunch of "baggage heavy" talents and a few borderline NBA guys that are known for their offense.

of the bunch the idea of Cope or Beasley off the bench is intriguing. Cope showed promise in our best season recently and Beasly can be an explosive scorer.
of the pair Beasly has more skill and less usefulness if he's not living up to it.
Id take Cope who's a good teammate, who can defend and score and isn't nuts


of the other guys Im most intrigued by Boozer and Davis.

Boozer can start next to Lopez as can Davis. Boozer brings scoring we simply don't have. Daivs brings toughness and defense and rebounding but apparently a bad attitude

We could use both

Id go for Boozer since we are in terrible need of scoring
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Post#16062 » by stuporman » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:51 pm

The Knicks should sign Nate just so him and Zinger can make a buddy movie together....
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Re: July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread 

Post#16063 » by RaZzMaTaZz » Sun Jul 19, 2015 9:59 pm

NoLayupRule wrote:
moocow007 wrote:A quick scan of remaining free agents would seem to indicate that there aren't that many "bench offense" type players left.

Here's basically a run down of players that have proven that they can actually score respectably enough coming off the bench for an NBA team in the past (I'm considering anyone that has averaged 10 or more points in an NBA season in a backup role for more than a handful of games as a "bench scorer" option).

Have included their (age in parenthesis) along with a blurb about each relating to their current state...also in no particular order:

Charlie Villanueva (30) - Former NYC product, a stretch 4 type that has some length at 6'11" but cant do much of anything else
Carlos Boozer (33) - He can still score and rebound...a la Amare...but defense has been brutal to the point where he's a huge liability on the defensive end...a la Amare
JR Smith (29) - Hiya
Dorell Wright (29) - a shell of his former self, nothing more than a corner 3 guy these days...surprising since he's only 29.
Jason Richardson (34) - can still be a potent scorer and has retained a portion of his athleticism, but not the most efficient guy
Jason Terry (37) - I just listed him for completeness of list, but I don't think any Knick fan would want him...plus rumored to be going back to Houston
Glen Davis (29) - big, fat, selfish, troublemaker that has talent
Michael Beasley (26) - still extremely talented offensive player, youngest guy on the list, was a very good solider last season for Miami from most reports, able passer and shooter.
Nate Robinson (31) - we all know what Robinson can do, he's just older and a bit slower now
Ben Gordon (32) - always seemed to play his best at MSG...a shell of the former player but still could be a solid veteran
Chris Copeland (31) - again, we know what Copeland does and doesn't do very well
John Salmons (35) - Salmons would probably be just for veteran stability at this point...assuming he doesn't retire.
Will Bynum (32) - has always been an explosive type backup combo guard for the Pistons, tough, but at just 6'1" really has a sign issue defensively
Chris Douglas Roberts (28) - can we really deal with both him and Derrick Williams in the running for worst hair style in the NBA? he's a skilled offensive player but doesn't play defense and has a rumor of being a prick.

Basically a bunch of past their prime players hanging on, a bunch of "baggage heavy" talents and a few borderline NBA guys that are known for their offense.

of the bunch the idea of Cope or Beasley off the bench is intriguing. Cope showed promise in our best season recently and Beasly can be an explosive scorer.
of the pair Beasly has more skill and less usefulness if he's not living up to it.
Id take Cope who's a good teammate, who can defend and score and isn't nuts


of the other guys Im most intrigued by Boozer and Davis.

Boozer can start next to Lopez as can Davis. Boozer brings scoring we simply don't have. Daivs brings toughness and defense and rebounding but apparently a bad attitude

We could use both

Id go for Boozer since we are in terrible need of scoring


Kevin Seraphin is still availabe.. I rather the Knicks go after him
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Re: July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread 

Post#16064 » by moocow007 » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:08 pm

RaZzMaTaZz wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:
moocow007 wrote:A quick scan of remaining free agents would seem to indicate that there aren't that many "bench offense" type players left.

Here's basically a run down of players that have proven that they can actually score respectably enough coming off the bench for an NBA team in the past (I'm considering anyone that has averaged 10 or more points in an NBA season in a backup role for more than a handful of games as a "bench scorer" option).

Have included their (age in parenthesis) along with a blurb about each relating to their current state...also in no particular order:

Charlie Villanueva (30) - Former NYC product, a stretch 4 type that has some length at 6'11" but cant do much of anything else
Carlos Boozer (33) - He can still score and rebound...a la Amare...but defense has been brutal to the point where he's a huge liability on the defensive end...a la Amare
JR Smith (29) - Hiya
Dorell Wright (29) - a shell of his former self, nothing more than a corner 3 guy these days...surprising since he's only 29.
Jason Richardson (34) - can still be a potent scorer and has retained a portion of his athleticism, but not the most efficient guy
Jason Terry (37) - I just listed him for completeness of list, but I don't think any Knick fan would want him...plus rumored to be going back to Houston
Glen Davis (29) - big, fat, selfish, troublemaker that has talent
Michael Beasley (26) - still extremely talented offensive player, youngest guy on the list, was a very good solider last season for Miami from most reports, able passer and shooter.
Nate Robinson (31) - we all know what Robinson can do, he's just older and a bit slower now
Ben Gordon (32) - always seemed to play his best at MSG...a shell of the former player but still could be a solid veteran
Chris Copeland (31) - again, we know what Copeland does and doesn't do very well
John Salmons (35) - Salmons would probably be just for veteran stability at this point...assuming he doesn't retire.
Will Bynum (32) - has always been an explosive type backup combo guard for the Pistons, tough, but at just 6'1" really has a sign issue defensively
Chris Douglas Roberts (28) - can we really deal with both him and Derrick Williams in the running for worst hair style in the NBA? he's a skilled offensive player but doesn't play defense and has a rumor of being a prick.

Basically a bunch of past their prime players hanging on, a bunch of "baggage heavy" talents and a few borderline NBA guys that are known for their offense.

of the bunch the idea of Cope or Beasley off the bench is intriguing. Cope showed promise in our best season recently and Beasly can be an explosive scorer.
of the pair Beasly has more skill and less usefulness if he's not living up to it.
Id take Cope who's a good teammate, who can defend and score and isn't nuts


of the other guys Im most intrigued by Boozer and Davis.

Boozer can start next to Lopez as can Davis. Boozer brings scoring we simply don't have. Daivs brings toughness and defense and rebounding but apparently a bad attitude

We could use both

Id go for Boozer since we are in terrible need of scoring


Kevin Seraphin is still availabe.. I rather the Knicks go after him


As a bench scoring option?
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Post#16065 » by RaZzMaTaZz » Sun Jul 19, 2015 10:48 pm

moocow007 wrote:
RaZzMaTaZz wrote:
NoLayupRule wrote:of the bunch the idea of Cope or Beasley off the bench is intriguing. Cope showed promise in our best season recently and Beasly can be an explosive scorer.
of the pair Beasly has more skill and less usefulness if he's not living up to it.
Id take Cope who's a good teammate, who can defend and score and isn't nuts


of the other guys Im most intrigued by Boozer and Davis.

Boozer can start next to Lopez as can Davis. Boozer brings scoring we simply don't have. Daivs brings toughness and defense and rebounding but apparently a bad attitude

We could use both

Id go for Boozer since we are in terrible need of scoring


Kevin Seraphin is still availabe.. I rather the Knicks go after him


As a bench scoring option?


We can sign Seraphin for the 2.8 and Ben Gordon for the vet min.

I don't think Phil likes bigs who don't play any defense like boozer.
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Post#16066 » by Fat Kat » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:14 am

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Post#16067 » by Phish Tank » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:24 am

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Post#16068 » by knickstape4ever » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:24 am

HOU is sending Papanikolaou to DEN who might in turn waive him since his contract is not guaranteed. I would definitely look to bring him in if so in addition to spending the room exception on Seraphin and possibly giving the vet min to Gordon
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Post#16069 » by Fat Kat » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:31 am

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Post#16070 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:33 am

So Lawson and Harden in the same backcourt. I wonder if that's a fit?
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Post#16071 » by N Y K » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:34 am

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Post#16072 » by NYKnicksTAPE » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:34 am

Harden and the Rockets will be in the finals next season...book it!!
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Post#16073 » by isiah_thomas » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:35 am

Prigs will get waived. Mudiay going to get a ton of Playing time
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Post#16074 » by N Y K » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:37 am

Mudiay is going to go in next year. Rockets did well, if this guy can pull it together, and Denver should have an awesome offseason next year. Nice deal all around.
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Post#16075 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:43 am

Fug Mudiay. Some of you guys still have a boner for Mudiay after watching Kristaps? Then go hang out on the Nuggets board with TKF.
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Post#16076 » by SoCalKnickFan » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:48 am

NYKnicksTAPE wrote:Harden and the Rockets will be in the finals next season...book it!!

Mc hale and a barely improved team vs. pop and a much improved Spurs team, let alone the Warriors. I'd pass on "booking" that.
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Post#16077 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:49 am

i wouldn't mind bringing back pablo for a 1 year vet min deal if he wanted too.
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Post#16078 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:53 am

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Post#16079 » by moocow007 » Mon Jul 20, 2015 1:58 am

CharlesOakleeey wrote:[tweet]https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/622942343017144320[/tweet]


With the FA signings and considering where each team plays, that pick swap probably won't be actualized. As bad as the Knicks may be, the Nuggets look to be worse heading into the 2015-2016 season. If anyone should be happy it should be the Raptors, not the Nuggets about the Knicks pick.

The Rockets pick barring some earth shattering catastrophe likely won't anything but a bottom 5 pick in the draft.

That Memphis pick isn't likely to be much better.

The Blazers pick? With Portland going into more or less a rebuild, and playing in the West, they are likely lottery right now for both the 2016 and 2017 drafts. If so, then due to wording of the trade that got Denver the pick, it'll end up being a 2nd round pick in 2018.
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Post#16080 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jul 20, 2015 2:03 am

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