July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread

[Zinger46]

Some FA scrubs still available-

Norris Cole
Kendall Marshall
Dorrell Wright
Kendrick Perkins
Darrell Arthur
Jeff Ayres
Francsico Garcia
Jordan Crawford
Jimmer(lol)

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Grant
Affalo
Melo
Oquin
Lopez

Calderon
Gallo
Williams
Boozer
Porzingis

I like grant in the starting lineup, we get to play quicker, break down defense and contain point guards from easy drivesto the basket

Calderon can control the second unit and give them some extra scoring.. He"ll also have more room to operate with boozer and porzingis opening the court.. Can play some pick and roll with porzingis if he wants

Dwill (great cutter can also benifit from the floor spacing porzingis and boozer can give you)

I guess its decent, if dwill plays wells that unit is more than capable of holding its own ground

No way does Calderon not start if he's healthy. Fit or not, he needs to get his value to somewhere above the floor it's currently at. If he can make it to the AS break, you might have an actual chance of getting out from under his deal and lack of production. Keeping him on the bench will keep his value low, and you'd be running a team with a rookie PG. Not sure I see KOQ starting either, he has issues fouling, and you need more firepower than simply Melo and a streaky Afflalo....pretty sure that would be Boozer. While Williams is just as terrible defensively as Boozer, he's a tweener 3/4......he's essentially a **** version of Melo, much better suited backing him up. I'd call them redundant on the court, but Williams sucks so bad that redundant doesn't fit the scenario.

Surely your squad will be better defensively this season, but it still won't be where it needs to.....and I'm really having a hard time of seeing where your points come from after Melo. Unless Booz gets back to his 18-20 a game touch (which is unlikely).....you're giving a guy like AA the green light, and I think that's a bad idea.....he's a less dumb JR Smith, he needs to be at highest, a third option.

[Triple C]

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[Knicksfan1992]

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I don't envision a scenario where both Derrick Williams and Afflalo exercise their player options unless Phil wants them too. Even if they do those are easily tradeable contracts if we get a superstar to commit. Also Calderon would be easier to trade next year even if we have to attach a pick to him or something. A team like the sixers would snatch that up. I'm not concerned by our cap next year the issue is easily resolved in multiple ways.

[Jeff Van Gully]

LOL, because I'm getting tired of them not signing people we need.

Jenkins wasn't gonna be the difference...

I must be thinking of a different John Jenkins, because the only John Jenkins I know doesn't deserve this much attention.

you must be thinking of john jenkins the unrestricted free agent who has the right to choose where he wants to go. they're thinking of john jenkins, the SG in the supplemental draft where the knicks are currently on the clock and can take whoever they want whenever they want and offer whatever they feel.

[Jeff Van Gully]

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I don't envision a scenario where both Derrick Williams and Afflalo exercise their player options unless Phil wants them too. Even if they do those are easily tradeable contracts if we get a superstar to commit. Also Calderon would be easier to trade next year even if we have to attach a pick to him or something. A team like the sixers would snatch that up. I'm not concerned by our cap next year the issue is easily resolved in multiple ways.

so many contracts that don't have to be on the books next season if we don't want.

and let's play this game all over again. which max cats are NOT coming to the knicks whereas we don't build up our team independently in hopes they come and save us?

KD? horford? noah?

kobe? wade? joe johnson?

[NoLayupRule]

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I don't envision a scenario where both Derrick Williams and Afflalo exercise their player options unless Phil wants them too. Even if they do those are easily tradeable contracts if we get a superstar to commit. Also Calderon would be easier to trade next year even if we have to attach a pick to him or something. A team like the sixers would snatch that up. I'm not concerned by our cap next year the issue is easily resolved in multiple ways.

I agree

plus we don't really know what the cap will be

but anyway if things start to come together for this team we would be in the market for a top level SG probably
keeping with the bulls model

obviously Durant is the big get but I doubt he leaves OKC anyway

Joe Johnson will be interesting. Not a max guy but a viable option

beyond that truthfully its guys like OJ Mayo

not sure who we would be offering a max to anyway


2016 doesn't seem to have a lot of major names after Durant

[Triple C]

I would like a lot Conley or Al Horford, but i doubt they leave Memphis and Atlanta.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Grant
Affalo
Melo
Oquin
Lopez

Calderon
Gallo
Williams
Boozer
Porzingis

I like grant in the starting lineup, we get to play quicker, break down defense and contain point guards from easy drivesto the basket

Calderon can control the second unit and give them some extra scoring.. He"ll also have more room to operate with boozer and porzingis opening the court.. Can play some pick and roll with porzingis if he wants

Dwill (great cutter can also benifit from the floor spacing porzingis and boozer can give you)

I guess its decent, if dwill plays wells that unit is more than capable of holding its own ground

Id be surprised but not shocked to see Grant or Gallo start over Calderon for both defense and speed

I don't think O'Quinn starts because of his foul issues and he's never played major mins

I actually think Williams starts
they seem pretty high on him


if we did land boozer Id like to see him start, if he can hold his own on D, or help the bench unit out with Porz playing spot mins at 3 or 4

i agree 100% with everything but the boozer part.

i like the character guys we are surrounding kris with right now at the 4/5. and even with derrick williams' limitations, he doesn't seem low character.

carlos boozer is a straight up bum. and i mean that in the sense that he has talent, but doesn't have the passion to maximize it. sure, he's on the downside of his career. but he can be so much tougher than he is. he always could have been. and that's the intangible complaint that's followed him his whole career.

give me overachievers any day. the whole always needs to be greater than the sum of its parts.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I would like a lot Conley or Al Horford, but i doubt they leave Memphis and Atlanta.

conley would be such a nice get. but i don't know if i want to max/near max him. i think he's spent his best days in memphis. but i do love him. he really reached his potential as a player and has become better than expected, which was never a low expectation. love his defense, shooting, and facilitating. seems like a great leader.

the price tag concerns me, but i'd be very happy with bringing him on if we could.

i love horford too. and he will probably command a max. dude would be king of washington heights! my domincanos represent! diaaaaaaaablo, loco.

but then with him and rolo are we really making KP the detlef schrempf of his day? all the backup frontcourt minutes going to him?

[NoLayupRule]

i agree 100% with everything but the boozer part.

i like the character guys we are surrounding kris with right now at the 4/5. and even with derrick williams' limitations, he doesn't seem low character.

carlos boozer is a straight up bum. and i mean that in the sense that he has talent, but doesn't have the passion to maximize it. sure, he's on the downside of his career. but he can be so much tougher than he is. he always could have been. and that's the intangible complaint that's followed him his whole career.

give me overachievers any day. the whole always needs to be greater than the sum of its parts.

Im with you in theory but who is that guy?

right now we don't have a starting PF honestly

O'Quinn is more of a center I think
Lou is a bench guy
Melo should be playing SF but even if he plays PF that leaves a gap at SF that Early and Thomas are not ready to fill
if we go really small we start Jose and Grant and then were playing out of position and our bench is weakened



we kinda need a PF. Right now I think it'll be williams who the staff seems excited about

while Boozer may not maximize his talents he does play pretty smart and within himself

Hes steady and hes smart

I don't think KP learns much from any of the bigs on this team right now except for hustle and effort but Boozer is more of a stop gap until we can figure out the 4 spot moving forward

I really want Gibson

[watchmen77]

anyone ever watch Kings? why is Jimmer Fredette sucked in NBA? is he too slow or not able to defend in the pro level?

[Triple C]

but then with him and rolo are we really making KP the detlef schrempf of his day? all the backup frontcourt minutes going to him?

Uhm, in that case i think if KP earns it in his rookie season would be the starter at PF, next to Horford, with RoLo back up, would be a hell of frontcourt KP/OQuinn and Horford/Rolo.

[Deeeez Knicks]

Meanwhile, JR Smith is about to go into the Cavs FO with those big doe eyes and ask for a raise

Asked if he regretted his decision to decline his contract option, Smith said "Uh, I mean, yes and no.

"No because I've gotten offers that I wanted, I mean numbers that I wanted, it's just different situations," Smith said. "Right now it's just a matter of seeing what the Cavs come back to me with. Right now they give me the best opportunity to win."

It is believed Smith was seeking somewhere in the $7 million to $9 million range annually.

The Portland Trail Blazers, Philadelphia 76ers and Indiana Pacers are the only teams beyond the Cavaliers that can offer him a raise.

Numbers? JR can count?

[3toheadmelo]

Taj Gibson still available? why dont we go after him i know he always wanted minutes he could be great here

[Jeff Van Gully]

i agree 100% with everything but the boozer part.

i like the character guys we are surrounding kris with right now at the 4/5. and even with derrick williams' limitations, he doesn't seem low character.

carlos boozer is a straight up bum. and i mean that in the sense that he has talent, but doesn't have the passion to maximize it. sure, he's on the downside of his career. but he can be so much tougher than he is. he always could have been. and that's the intangible complaint that's followed him his whole career.

give me overachievers any day. the whole always needs to be greater than the sum of its parts.

Im with you in theory but who is that guy?

right now we don't have a starting PF honestly

O'Quinn is more of a center I think
Lou is a bench guy
Melo should be playing SF but even if he plays PF that leaves a gap at SF that Early and Thomas are not ready to fill
if we go really small we start Jose and Grant and then were playing out of position and our bench is weakened



we kinda need a PF. Right now I think it'll be williams who the staff seems excited about

while Boozer may not maximize his talents he does play pretty smart and within himself

Hes steady and hes smart

I don't think KP learns much from any of the bigs on this team right now except for hustle and effort but Boozer is more of a stop gap until we can figure out the 4 spot moving forward

I really want Gibson

very fair point. boozer could be a cheap answer at starting PF. i just fear of his bum juice rubbing off on our young'ns. haha. i want to believe a team with hustle and identity could benefit, but he had that in utah and chicago. one could argue cleveland too.

but you're right. he's probably the best we could do with what we have left and how things have played out. and maybe within the context of the team and direction, he could be serviceable. that's all you need from a room exception guy, right? serviceable.

[Fat Kat]

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[moocow007]

anyone ever watch Kings? why is Jimmer Fredette sucked in NBA? is he too slow or not able to defend in the pro level?

Looks like his confidence has pretty much been sucked out of him. Every thing does has a hesitation to it, a 2nd guess feel to it. He's the type of guy that needs to feel confident in his shot and take it without thinking. That's what made him so great at BYU. It's like Willie Wonka when he starts to second guess himself and not feel good about what he's doing...his chocolates end up being terrible. Shooting the ball is Fredette's chocolate. Yes, he's not the most adept defender but there's plenty of guys who's had long, long, long NBA careers without being a good athlete or strong defender.

As far as the next possible question? You know...how about we give him a shot in NY? Knick fans are looking to lynch anyone with half a skill the second they don't produce up to (often times unrealistic) expectations. What do you think the answer will be to that question?

Fredette's probably best suited at this point to trying to latch on with the Spurs. He'll have a specific role, the crowd won't be looking to tear him a new one every time he misses a shot, there's a sense of tranquility there that I think he needs. Warriors might be an option as well since the are more free wheeling and shooting oriented, getting him in a system where he can just shoot without thinking (like the Warriors do so well) would probably be good. Barring that? Maybe going overseas where he can probably put up big offensive stats like he did in college, build his confidence back up, and then try the NBA again.

Honestly, he got unlucky. The Kings were probably one of the worst situations for him. A dysfunctional organization with a ton of young guys that play the same position on a team with little to no structure or system? Yeah, if anyone wants an example of a young guy drafted into the wrong situation, Fridette to the Kings is a great one.

[El Poochio]

In my dream I saw a trade getting us the original Gallo (from Celtics) Mario Chalmers and a 3rd player who was probably Dirk Nowitzki but he was not getting attention at all everyone was talking about Gallo so maybe it was years later people were saying check the Raptors board they are going nuts lol classic

[DaGawd]

Taj Gibson still available? why dont we go after him i know he always wanted minutes he could be great here

He's not a free agent. We'd have to trade for him