Knicks emerge as front runners for Jamal Crawford?

NYKNICKPLAYA · Post #1621 » by **NYKNICKPLAYA** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:12 pm

Knckles wrote:
iDunk wrote:If Crawford accepts Knicks' offer he'll be a fan favorite just for his sacrifice financially wise.

His chucking will convince u otherwise. Yes 2.5 million is a bargain for him but it doesn't make him a good basketball player he still sucks and we will get pissed a lot about him.

No. I agree with Idunk.

Crawford @2.5 mill is a huge bargain. He could put up 20 (if you needed him to), or he will be content with coming off the bench providing a spark-- and he will provide a spark, he will be good off the bench, he will still hit a few threes and score 12 or 13. He can play either position (if you really need him to play PG for some reason) he isn't a natural PG, but it's nice to have an emergencey option. He is a more mature player than when he played here. I know he has defensive issues, but at least he is a willing defender, and I believe he still can become a better defender. He will step his D up if Tyson helps get everyone else to.

Post #1622 » by **mpharris36** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:14 pm

Knicker23 wrote:What Crawford brings > Purple at any position you want him in

Rookies will get there time if they deserve it, Crawford or not. Lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Crawford can't guard a 3, 4, or 5 which Purp can...and I would also put it out there that Crawford doesn't guard 1's or 2's well either....actually he plays no defense.

ORANGEandBLUE · Post #1623 » by **ORANGEandBLUE** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:14 pm

Knicker23 wrote:What Crawford brings > Purple at any position you want him in

Rookies will get there time if they deserve it, Crawford or not. Lets not get ahead of ourselves.

I agree but it's kind of irrelevant whether Crawford is better given that he's going to bolt in a year. If we are all about winning as many games as possible this season and sacrificing the future why don't we trade Shumpert?

E86 · Post #1624 » by **E86** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:14 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Knicker23 wrote:What Crawford brings > Purple at any position you want him in

Rookies will get there time if they deserve it, Crawford or not. Lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Crawford can't guard a 3, 4, or 5 which Purp can...and I would also put it out there that Crawford doesn't guard 1's or 2's well either....actually he plays no defense.

lawl williams can guard 4s and 5s now?

NYKNICKPLAYA · Post #1625 » by **NYKNICKPLAYA** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:15 pm

GOOD NEWS!

Jamal Crawford has turned down an offer from the Pacers for $10 million over two years, according to a source.

Crawford is considering offers from the Knicks, Blazers, Kings and Wolves.

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/21 ... z1gTIhwcq4

BLACKFEET 2010 · Post #1626 » by **BLACKFEET 2010** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:15 pm

@alanhahn: RT @aldridge_12: I'm doing my best to get @JCrossover to Portland Rip City 25 minutes ago

how u

Knicker23 · Post #1627 » by **Knicker23** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:15 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Knicker23 wrote:What Crawford brings > Purple at any position you want him in

Rookies will get there time if they deserve it, Crawford or not. Lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Crawford can't guard a 3, 4, or 5 which Purp can...and I would also put it out there that Crawford doesn't guard 1's or 2's well either....actually he plays no defense.

Even if that was entirely true, his offensive impact outweighs Shawns in a much more impacting way, imo.

Gregory151 · Post #1628 » by **Gregory151** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:15 pm

Sam Amick @sam_amick
Source says Jamal Crawford is now considering offers from New York, Portland and Sacramento.

Knicker23 · Post #1629 » by **Knicker23** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:17 pm

Gregory151 wrote:Sam Amick @sam_amick
Source says Jamal Crawford is now considering offers from New York, Portland and Sacramento.

Post #1630 » by **mpharris36** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:17 pm

BigE86 wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Knicker23 wrote:What Crawford brings > Purple at any position you want him in

Rookies will get there time if they deserve it, Crawford or not. Lets not get ahead of ourselves.

Crawford can't guard a 3, 4, or 5 which Purp can...and I would also put it out there that Crawford doesn't guard 1's or 2's well either....actually he plays no defense.

lawl williams can guard 4s and 5s now?

he sure as h*ll can guard 4's he did it all last yr. He started at the 4 in the playoffs. As for the 5 that might be pushing it but I do recall him going toe to toe with D12 a few games.

taj2133 · Post #1631 » by **taj2133** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:18 pm

Looks like timberwolves are out of the running.

knicksosmoove · Post #1632 » by **knicksosmoove** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:18 pm

This Shawne > Crawford talk is crazy. Just look at their market values to see who is the better player.

Post #1633 » by **mpharris36** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:18 pm

Knicker23 wrote:
Gregory151 wrote:Sam Amick @sam_amick
Source says Jamal Crawford is now considering offers from New York, Portland and Sacramento.

wow sam is a genious....he turns down one offer so now it goes for 4 to 3.....wow i wouldn't be able to come to that conclusion... :nonono:

taj2133 · Post #1634 » by **taj2133** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:19 pm

He turned down 2 offers pacers and the wolves.

god shammgod · Post #1635 » by **god shammgod** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:20 pm

mpharris36 wrote:he sure as h*ll can guard 4's he did it all last yr. He started at the 4 in the playoffs. As for the 5 that might be pushing it but I do recall him going toe to toe with D12 a few games.

he's not an ideal 4 but we have nobody else. we'll be playing 3 guards off the bench and jeffries.

BLACKFEET 2010 · Post #1636 » by **BLACKFEET 2010** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:20 pm

I like Purp but what Jamal could potentially bring to this squad is more important. He's a bonafide scorer. We need one off the bench. Again, Drank is my guy but I doubt he can repeat what he did for us for the better part of last season. It took a while but I'm going w/Jamal.

Post #1637 » by **mpharris36** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:21 pm

knicksosmoove wrote:This Shawne > Crawford talk is crazy. Just look at their market values to see who is the better player.

no one is saying talent level...i am strickly judging the move off need. Looking at our bench we are in much more need of a wing player then a combo guard off the bench. I have confidence that shumpert can provide that combo guard off the bench.

NYKNICKPLAYA · Post #1638 » by **NYKNICKPLAYA** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:22 pm

Having Shawne is a decent luxury. He is a guy who provides some size, and can defend a few positions. He is a sure bet usually from D'Antoni's corner three, and can defenitley provide a spark. But Crawford could be a championship caliber starter plugging in there at the 2 spot. I believe it would be a battle for that starting SG spot.

Post #1639 » by **mpharris36** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:23 pm

god shammgod wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:he sure as h*ll can guard 4's he did it all last yr. He started at the 4 in the playoffs. As for the 5 that might be pushing it but I do recall him going toe to toe with D12 a few games.

he's not an ideal 4 but we have nobody else. we'll be playing 3 guards off the bench and jeffries.

Here's how I look at it...

Signing Purp means less minutes for jeffries

Signing Crawford means less minutes for Shumpert

i just don't like that trade off.

Post #1640 » by **mpharris36** » Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:24 pm

NYKNICKPLAYA wrote:Having Shawne is a decent luxury. He is a guy who provides some size, and can defend a few positions. He is a sure bet usually from D'Antoni's corner three, and can defenitley provide a spark. But Crawford could be a championship caliber starter plugging in there at the 2 spot. I believe it would be a battle for that starting SG spot.

championship calibre starter??? are u serious!

every team he started for s*cked and didn't make the playoffs...when his role diminished to a 6-man scorer he proved his worth.

Jamal is a 6-man off the bench....any more and he is hurting the team more than helping