Phil can GTFO out now *** PJ willing to deal KP per Woj.

[Deeeez Knicks]

I mean how specifically have the Knicks wronged Porzingis? Over the triangle? Phil hasnt said anything publicly disparaging him that I recall.

Phil disparaged melo and it rubbed KP the wrong way. Melo has taken kp under his wing and theres a lot of respect there, yet Phil disrespected melo pretty bad. Fans are looking at it as kp throwing a hissy fit, but in his eyes he's defending a teammate. There's actually some honor in that.

Maybe that's the problem. Phil is trying to implement a system that Melo wants no part of. You know, things that actually win in the NBA like ball movement, moving without the ball, defense, rebounding, being coachable, getting an open shot, setting up teammates. If Porzingis stays, Melo has to get lost. And if Porzingis is mad about Melo being forced out and expressing it publicly, then adios to him too.

Im all for trading Melo, but the way Phil is going about it seems all wrong. For one, Phil gave melo a no trade clause. Another, hes not helping his value and leverage by publically calling him out and embarrassing him.

Again, can agree that kp and melo have not handled this well either, but Phil set himself up for this disaster and is handling this terribly as well

[captvict]

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Well, at least no more worrying about Phil trading for Evan Turner and a Portland pick.

Lol. I was thinking the same thing. Won't be seeing turner in that trade

[Deeeez Knicks]

New York City vs. San Antonio

Especially in today's social media era, it's not a fair comparison. Everything that happens in NYC is under a microscope

Just look at how todays news of Phil taking calls about Porzingis got blown up. Just because he answered phone calls it got made into a whole circus show.

I don't know...in today's media there's gossip everywhere...plenty of gossip in clev right now.

Phil handles things a lot different then Pop...cant see Pop writing tell all books like Phil did or have a pop files.

Phil just seems to feel a need to always speak his mind, while pop is way more close guarded.

Imagine if a NY coach made a Knicks player cry on the bench in today's time, like Pop made Tony Parker cry when he was young. The media would eat it up and turn it into a circus show. Also remember when Popovich and Stephen Jackson had that feud and they just cut Jackson because he didn't want to admit to the other players that they were better than him as was requested by Pop, the media would be all over that story. We don't hear about San Antonio and how they do things because frankly nobody really cares, it doesn't sell stories, but NY does. Phil also retired twice, he's had a lot more free time to write books, Pop hasn't. Although I do agree they are different in their own ways, Phil is older and more experienced as a coach and has been a part of 3 of the biggest markets in the entire country ( NY, Chicago, LA) so he's been dealing with a lot more pressure his entire career. We don't know how Pop would handle those bigger markets, but he does seem to have a short fuse so I can imagine him giving the NY media nonstop juicy material that they would just love.

I agree the ny media is worse and circles like hungry sharks, but i hink it's different because Pop is coaching and that happened behind closed doors.

The Phil files also happened while Phil is running the team. I liked the preimse, but he went way too far in criticising players...and he continues to criticize players publicly. It just doesn't sit well and asking for controversy....like throwing chum to the hungry sharks. hence another example in this story

[ozwizard8]

There's no way this situation can end well. Even if he stays, it's been put out there (whether it actually happened or not,) that Phil looked into trading him to Phoenix.

If this kid was supposed to be the cornerstone/franchise player for the next decade, than info like this should've never been leaked out in the first place. As one of the media pundits put it, this is just adding extra poison to an already toxic situation.

PJ already has a bad relationship with Melo, a guy he gave a NTC near max contract to (no one forced him to do so,) and now he's seemingly going to be on the outs with our young budding star.

I don't agree with how KP handled the end of the season; you don't miss your "performance evaluation" with your employer, but there were a myriad of other ways to resolve this matter between player and upper management. I thought I've seen it all as a fan of this team for nearly 30 years, this adds a whole new level of dysfunction to this ridiculous franchise.

Phil and his mistreatments...

*Melo didnt deserve that disrespect. He gets high respect from players around the league but PJ treated Melo like he's doing JR Smith stuff. Melo didnt do anything wrong. Phil picked head coach, system and the players. Melo just wants to earn his check for performing. Phil give him that No trade clause. Its not like Melo wasted himself on drugs/food etc. Melo did his part for the agreement. Phil Jackson mobbing him for no reason. Its a crime. I dont know anyone likes that kind of treatment from his/her boss.

*KP is horribly treated for a young valuable prospect.
No matter what they did you cant see any valueable young prospect treated like KP. Phil Jackson used ill words about KP in his 2 year career. Shawn Bradley comprasion was subtle but now he says KP is not untouchable and trade talks are just too much.
I dont remember anything similar happened for 2nd year player. Did Durant/Davis/Giannis/KAT/Booker/Curry or any other good/great prospect treated by his GM like this?

*Coaching choices and treatment.
Phil dont respect his coaches. He constantly force triangle to their game.
He doesnt respect them at all. He puts Rambis in key positions to force his vision.

Phil Jackson is just a megalomaniac.
Kobe/MJ and some other great player, coaches had high egos too. Its easy to ignore it when MJ/Kobe bring titles but Phil Jackson cant bring any success as GM. So fire him and his posse(Rambis etc).

[Biggie Smalls]

I think we should keep kp and build around him.

[Fat Kat]

In his second season he already is demonstrating prima donna traits, I don't like that at all.

Take into account that he doesn't look like an alpha, health is always a concern with big men, I take a supposed package from Boston with this years #3 pick and next years Brooklyn pick.

What do we have going forward?

WHG
Ntikilina
Fox/Tatum
Next years Brooklyn pick

After years of debating Eddy Curry's offseason weight gain/loss this looks pretty good to me

I approve this post. Bitchazz behavior will no longer be tolerated with this team. The Suns trade or anything better. Get it done.

[Lord Commander]

What would be the reaction if we trade Porzingis to Boston, they give us the #3 pick + next year's Brooklyn pick + SAC-LAL pick.

And on draft night we take Fox wih the 3 pick and with the 8th pick we take Monk to reunite those two here.

I'd be pissed. Josh Jackson at #3 is the play.

[Lord Commander]

If KP goes and WHG starts to realize his potential, how long before he developes bitch tendencies because Phil traded his boy.

[Fat Kat]

Michael Kay - never before before has here been a man so cocksure in his his convictions, yet so ill informed and ignorant about the NBA.

[knicks9784]

lmao craig carton is ok with trading kp for just the 3. what a ufcking joke

[FutureKnicksGM]

This kid is just too much. This is all calculated man.

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Put that work in KP. Lead us to the promise land.

[Fury]

What would be the reaction if we trade Porzingis to Boston, they give us the #3 pick + next year's Brooklyn pick + SAC-LAL pick.

And on draft night we take Fox wih the 3 pick and with the 8th pick we take Monk to reunite those two here.

I'd take Jackson and Frank

Next year, I'd take Doncic and Ayton

Then I'd beat

[FutureKnicksGM]

Kristaps got involved in something he had no business getting into, and in the end it might cost him.

Carmelo isn't speaking up for himself when it comes to Phil, yet Kristaps wants to get involved? I guess he wasn't taught never fight/speak for a person that won't fight/speak for themselves.

What would Kristaps do if tomorrow Carmelo and Phil take a picture lounging and smoking cigars in Los Angeles?

Everything's got to be about Carmelo right? That's all it could be right?

[FutureKnicksGM]

kp really does like publicity though, huh. never thought about till now really. the constant updates online. a special on espn. he's more media hungry than i realized. not that it's a bad thing.

If Phil doesn't trade him first, maybe that will help him re-sign with us like Melo did (i.e doesn't care about wining).

[god shammgod]

we know it's serious in here when you're throwing down blocks of text.

And I agree with your point that the most exciting time for knicks fans is when they're not on the court.

it's sad but it's all we got

Oh boy... what did I miss? Did you use any capital letters?

no

[FutureKnicksGM]

KP has learned from Melo how to be an entitled child. Melo is a great offensive player but not a leader and not someone to be followed. (Well, that's how it seems to me).
Anyhow, I doubt Phil trades him but if he gets a huge offer, maybe this is the time to do it. KP has shown brilliance but also fragility.
Interesting times...

Melo was definitely all in KP's ear when they were both sitting out games towards the end of the season. Melo and KP with their hands over their mouths whispering. I have no doubt that Melo poisoned him with all his whiny BS because he's selfish. But Janis is supposed to be that wall that protects KP from stuff like that. Maybe Janis is a little star-struck himself? Obviously, just my opinion. But we'll see.

Has Jeff or Phil heard from KP yet?

Who poisoned Phil to become the bitch he is today? Was that Melo.

[god shammgod]

you guys are up in here writing dissertations on the corruption of Latvian youth in the nba while i'm here for the beyonce gifs.

the discussion did get serious and rational . i apologize. it's not like me.

I can't believe I posted something like 30 times about KP and didn't call him Shaun Van Novacamby even once.

we share the shame

[god shammgod]

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Well, at least no more worrying about Phil trading for Evan Turner and a Portland pick.

now this is fantastic news

[FutureKnicksGM]

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Well, at least no more worrying about Phil trading for Evan Turner and a Portland pick.

SMH. That was one good thing we had to look forward too.

[NYKAL]

Howard Beck‏: FWIW, plugged-in source says to “disregard” buzz about Knicks trading Porzingis. They aren’t shopping him, though they have taken calls.
– via Twitter HowardBeck

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