2019-2020 College/Draft thread X [marks the spot] (Knicks own #8 pick, 11/18 DRAFT)

robillionaire · Post #1621 » by **robillionaire** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:05 pm

still not sold on terry too many shane larkin vibes

i mean i guess i'd be ok with it at 27

Zenzibar · Post #1622 » by **Zenzibar** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:05 pm

HEZI wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
HEZI wrote:

Read on Twitter

Yall know this is my pick. SO if it's between Kira Lewis or the beefed up Tyrell Terry who wins?

I'm taking Terry

Me too. This Terry kid can shoot from mid-court, this and his unparalleled IQ, Tyrell can start right away on this young team.

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Ray Williams · Post #1623 » by **Ray Williams** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:09 pm

Tyrell Terry’s shooting convinced me. I’d even move up for him. Kid is going to be really good.

HEZI · Post #1624 » by **HEZI** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:11 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
HEZI wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:

Yall know this is my pick. SO if it's between Kira Lewis or the beefed up Tyrell Terry who wins?

I'm taking Terry

Me too. This Terry kid can shoot from mid-court, this and his unparalleled IQ, Tyrell can start right away on this young team.

Watch on YouTube

Could see him being one of the best players to come out of this draft when it's all said and done

Post #1625 » by **moocow007** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:20 pm

HEZI wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
HEZI wrote:
I'm taking Terry

Me too. This Terry kid can shoot from mid-court, this and his unparalleled IQ, Tyrell can start right away on this young team.

Watch on YouTube

Could see him being one of the best players to come out of this draft when it's all said and done

Yeah I'd pick Terry over Lewis as well and Terry does have the potential to be one of the best players from this draft. Everything about him...even now with the size...I like. You don't need to be super athletic to he successful in the NBA. Guys like Steph, Harden, Trae Young, Donnie, etc are proof and athleticism is the only thing Lewis has over Terry. Skill, feel and IQ more important especially for a PG and especially if you want to win.

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Zenzibar · Post #1626 » by **Zenzibar** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:21 pm

HEZI wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
HEZI wrote:
I'm taking Terry

Me too. This Terry kid can shoot from mid-court, this and his unparalleled IQ, Tyrell can start right away on this young team.

Watch on YouTube

Could see him being one of the best players to come out of this draft when it's all said and done

Absolutely!

What most hold against him is his height and build, which he's addressing. But Trae Young is a lightwieght but his shooting makes him a star.
Tyrell is the best shooter in this draft, I swear he moves side to side like Steph finding and creating gaps. Back cuts, swinging the ball and running to spots, dam LOVE his game.

Mike Schmitz from ESPN was highly impressed with him and how his skills will translate easily to the NBA.

stuporman · Post #1627 » by **stuporman** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:21 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
HEZI wrote:

Read on Twitter

Yall know this is my pick. SO if it's between the beefed up Kira Lewis or the beefed up Tyrell Terry who wins?

Post #1628 » by **moocow007** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:23 pm

Reign23 wrote:thoughts:
I am not for moving up after all. But IF we do, I would make sure to get #1 or #2 to draft Ball or Edwards.
the other picks who are expected to go that high don't make much sense or I'm not that high on.
Wiseman: I rather have Mitch and I'm looking to get a 3rd building block instead of possibly upgrading one.
Avdija: I think he can't play with RJ. both are playmaking SF without 3 point range. and I think RJ is way better...
Obi: I'm not sold
Hayes: I would trade up for him if I think he is the answer at PG, but you don't need to get up to #4 to get him

Hayes, Haliburton or Vassell at #8 (in that order).
Nesmith, Terry, Williams or Lewis in a trade down.
thats all i can accept.

You can trade Robinson for a 3rd building block.

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thebuzzardman · Post #1629 » by **thebuzzardman** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:26 pm

HEZI wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
HEZI wrote:
I'm taking Terry

Me too. This Terry kid can shoot from mid-court, this and his unparalleled IQ, Tyrell can start right away on this young team.

Watch on YouTube

Could see him being one of the best players to come out of this draft when it's all said and done

I really like him. I also like Kira Lewis.

Just feel like Terry, with the shooting and complete game, could run the team but then also operate off the ball very effectively, which makes a nice pairing with RJ having the ball in his hands a decent amount of the time where RJ is the secondary or tertiary initiator of the offense

Post #1630 » by **moocow007** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:30 pm

We should get a RGM Knicks board podcast team up. That way we can talk and argue these things on the tube and potentially be famous rather than in anonymity here.

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Zenzibar · Post #1631 » by **Zenzibar** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:31 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:
HEZI wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
Me too. This Terry kid can shoot from mid-court, this and his unparalleled IQ, Tyrell can start right away on this young team.

Watch on YouTube

Could see him being one of the best players to come out of this draft when it's all said and done

I really like him. I also like Kira Lewis.

Just feel like Terry, with the shooting and complete game, could run the team but then also operate off the ball very effectively, which makes a nice pairing with RJ having the ball in his hands a decent amount of the time where RJ is the secondary or tertiary initiator of the offense

Absolutely!

People don't realize that Trae on Oklahoma was a 1 man team, running a 1 man offense but Terry in the same situation would have put up HUGE numbers as well.
This Tyrell Terry kid is a Trae Young clone.

Zenzibar · Post #1632 » by **Zenzibar** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:33 pm

moocow007 wrote:We should get a RGM Knicks board podcast team up. That way we can talk and argue these things on the tube and potentially be famous rather than in anonymity here.

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Bro, what a great idea!

robillionaire · Post #1633 » by **robillionaire** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:33 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:
HEZI wrote:
Could see him being one of the best players to come out of this draft when it's all said and done

I really like him. I also like Kira Lewis.

Just feel like Terry, with the shooting and complete game, could run the team but then also operate off the ball very effectively, which makes a nice pairing with RJ having the ball in his hands a decent amount of the time where RJ is the secondary or tertiary initiator of the offense

Absolutely!

People don't realize that Trae on Oklahoma was a 1 man team, running a 1 man offense but Terry in the same situation would have put up HUGE numbers as well.
This Tyrell Terry kid is a Trae Young clone.

only 3.2 assists per game? trae averaged 8.7. can he pass?

Post #1634 » by **moocow007** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:35 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
moocow007 wrote:We should get a RGM Knicks board podcast team up. That way we can talk and argue these things on the tube and potentially be famous rather than in anonymity here.

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Bro, what a great idea!

It would. Listening to some of these other Knick fan podcasts and honestly they leave a lot to be desired. One group I caught yesterday was just hilariously brutal and they had like 12k subscribers lol.

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iLLmatic860 · Post #1635 » by **iLLmatic860** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:35 pm

moocow007 wrote:We should get a RGM Knicks board podcast team up. That way we can talk and argue these things on the tube and potentially be famous rather than in anonymity here.

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I been thinking about doing a pod but I dont know anyone in real life as passionate about the Knicks as I am lol

F N 11 · Post #1636 » by **F N 11** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:36 pm

Terry is nice because we need shooting and he reminds us of what shooters can be in the new nba.

Zenzibar · Post #1637 » by **Zenzibar** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:42 pm

robillionaire wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:

I really like him. I also like Kira Lewis.

Just feel like Terry, with the shooting and complete game, could run the team but then also operate off the ball very effectively, which makes a nice pairing with RJ having the ball in his hands a decent amount of the time where RJ is the secondary or tertiary initiator of the offense

Absolutely!

People don't realize that Trae on Oklahoma was a 1 man team, running a 1 man offense but Terry in the same situation would have put up HUGE numbers as well.
This Tyrell Terry kid is a Trae Young clone.

only 3.2 assists per game? trae averaged 8.7. can he pass?

From what I read, Stanford runs this pinch post flare variation of the Triangle Offense. The ball never sticks to one guy, in a sense there is no true point guard at Stanford other than initiate the O. But you have to be able to read the defenses reactions (Phil would have LOVED Terry).

Hence Tyrell would be seen bringing up the ball, initiating, then running baseline to baseline, back cuts, popping off of back door picks to get free to shoot.
The kid has a nice hande and his passing is a subtle gift. His passing is actually better than Kira's in MHO.

robillionaire · Post #1638 » by **robillionaire** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:56 pm

Zenzibar wrote:
robillionaire wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:
Absolutely!

People don't realize that Trae on Oklahoma was a 1 man team, running a 1 man offense but Terry in the same situation would have put up HUGE numbers as well.
This Tyrell Terry kid is a Trae Young clone.

only 3.2 assists per game? trae averaged 8.7. can he pass?

From what I read, Stanford runs this pinch post flare variation of the Triangle Offense. The ball never sticks to one guy, in a sense there is no true point guard at Stanford other than initiate the O. But you have to be able to read the defenses reactions (Phil would have LOVED Terry).

Hence Tyrell would be seen bringing up the ball, initiating, then running baseline to baseline, back cuts, popping off of back door picks to get free to shoot.
The kid has a nice hande and his passing is a subtle gift. His passing is actually better than Kira's in MHO.

thanks for the really good explanation

HEZI · Post #1639 » by **HEZI** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:58 pm

Trae had/has a different mindset that I don't know if Terry has. Trae saw every type of coverage in College and the way he masterfully was able to figure out and beat the different defensive schemes thrown at him, you just knew he was a special player. Terry might never get to Trae's level but that's a high bar to reach and he doesn't have to reach it to become a really good NBA player and one of the best in his class.

stuporman · Post #1640 » by **stuporman** » Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:02 pm

If the Knicks wind up with either Kira or Terry I'm cool, I think both can be really effective with them. Both are pretty versatile PGs that can play on or off ball, can shoot, pass and ultimately give me no red flags with their attitude, motor or physical profile.

People get too hung up on where you get a player, what pick, the value of the pick, all of that is missing the point. If you get players that help the team win it doesn't matter in hindsight what 'value' or what they were 'mocked', too much overthinking it with fans about that stuff.