Build a Franchise (Season 8) Discussion Thread- Philadelphia is now on the clock until 4PM

[Context]

Have you offered your first round picks to move them?

To be fair, y'all are kind proving his point. If he had to wait two years to even add picks to get off of contracts (but he wants to rebuild as a young team), it goes against what he wants to do. If any of these guys are tradable, surely people would be lining up to message him for them?

I may not agree with the method of waiting two years to play hard-ball/raising this issue up, but I see his position.

It sounds like he had multiple opportunities to move off his bad contracts and even acquire cap space/picks in return

its pretty obvious at this point Mel...

[3toheadmelo]

Anfernee Simons available

[Mecca]

keeping it real Mecca...seems to me that you overvalued your position and contracts based on what was presented so far...
I mean its very obvious your inactivity was the main reason too..

Absolutely didn't overvalue my position, just never got bites on Smart who is the only player I wanted to move.

I’m confused now. So you’re gonna go inactive because you can’t move smart?

I'll be active and make my pick. You wont see me in here and I have no cap space. I want to let my guys come off books

[TerrenceClarke]

The one thing I never do is even I don’t like the offer is show respect by respond back.


I even respond to Hoffa offers.

[mpharris36]

I saw that offer, none of your offers were somewhat even. There was nothing to talk about

even if there aren't even you can always send something back. You know what your doing you have been in BAF before.

You should respond to every single offer IMO. Then if I see something I counter or be honest with the other GM. At minimum you build a rapport with someone so if somethings comes down the line they think of you.

Too often the common courtesy / rapport factor is lost on some of these GMs.

I’ll never understand GMs who leave people on read, refuse to counter or offer any perspective on why they decline a proposed deal, and largely fail to see value in a simple human element such as negotiating with candor and timeliness.

I’ve created solid relationships with fellow GMs just by being willing to answer PMs, close gaps on trade views via open communication lines, and having a strong enough rapport that we could work through difficult multi-team deals to close when at times it didn’t always look promising.

How many years have I been in your PM's about Derrick White? You know I like him and I keep shooting my shot because I get new pieces and I don't know if the new pieces you value more than the others. I just trying to put myself in that GM's shoes to see if the players I send fit there vision...sometimes it doesn't work. But you miss every shot you don't take.

[mpharris36]

The one thing I never do is even I don’t like the offer is show respect by respond back.


I even respond to Hoffa offers.

I've responded to him the last 3 years he's asked for Jokic

[Context]

The one thing I never do is even I don’t like the offer is show respect by respond back.


I even respond to Hoffa offers.

I've responded to him the last 3 years he's asked for Jokic

[3toheadmelo]

Absolutely didn't overvalue my position, just never got bites on Smart who is the only player I wanted to move.

I’m confused now. So you’re gonna go inactive because you can’t move smart?

I'll be active and make my pick. You wont see me in here and I have no cap space. I want to let my guys come off books

I’m seeing a lot of flaws in your argument.

You had multiple opportunities to move off those contracts to move those contracts for cap space and picks. But you claim no one wanted to touch them despite other GMs saying otherwise.


Now you’re saying you only wanted to move smart and not the other bad contracts? And you’re gonna go inactive for a year because of that?

[Mecca]

I’m confused now. So you’re gonna go inactive because you can’t move smart?

I'll be active and make my pick. You wont see me in here and I have no cap space. I want to let my guys come off books

I’m seeing a lot of flaws in your argument.

You had multiple opportunities to move off those contracts to move those contracts for cap space and picks. But you claim no one wanted to touch them despite other GMs saying otherwise.


Now you’re saying you only wanted to move smart and not the other bad contracts? And you’re gonna go inactive for a year because of that?

I have never had an opportunity to move off of Jonas or Smart. Would love someone to step up and say they offered a deal w them

I want to be inactive bc that's my strategy. I'll make my pick and circle back in a year

I have deals on table rn for Tobias/LeVert but don't plan on accepting & would rather let them expire or trade at deadline

[2010]

even if there aren't even you can always send something back. You know what your doing you have been in BAF before.

You should respond to every single offer IMO. Then if I see something I counter or be honest with the other GM. At minimum you build a rapport with someone so if somethings comes down the line they think of you.

Too often the common courtesy / rapport factor is lost on some of these GMs.

I’ll never understand GMs who leave people on read, refuse to counter or offer any perspective on why they decline a proposed deal, and largely fail to see value in a simple human element such as negotiating with candor and timeliness.

I’ve created solid relationships with fellow GMs just by being willing to answer PMs, close gaps on trade views via open communication lines, and having a strong enough rapport that we could work through difficult multi-team deals to close when at times it didn’t always look promising.

I respond if it's a decent offer. If it's some bs,I wont

But “some bs” is based on perspective. Perhaps an offer can be improved upon once your counterpart understands your needs/wants.

Like me, myself… I’ve never purposely sent anyone a bs offer. Why would I wanna waste either of our time?

Now maybe I didn’t understand their current vision or position. Which made them think my offer was “some bs”, but at that point it’s up to them to communicate what could get the gap closed (or understand how wide it truly is). Then we could ascertain if anything can get done.

But it’s impossible to get any deal done if there is no communication in good faith.

[3toheadmelo]

I'll be active and make my pick. You wont see me in here and I have no cap space. I want to let my guys come off books

I’m seeing a lot of flaws in your argument.

You had multiple opportunities to move off those contracts to move those contracts for cap space and picks. But you claim no one wanted to touch them despite other GMs saying otherwise.


Now you’re saying you only wanted to move smart and not the other bad contracts? And you’re gonna go inactive for a year because of that?

I have never had an opportunity to move off of Jonas or Smart. Would love someone to step up and say they offered a deal w them

I want to be inactive bc that's my strategy. I'll make my pick and circle back in a year

I have deals on table rn for Tobias/LeVert but don't plan on accepting & would rather let them expire or trade at deadline

Is it just smart or also JV you want to move? You’re not being consistent at all in your arguments.

You just said you were going inactive because nobody wanted to pass the rule. Not because of a strategy.

You all over the place man.

[2010]

even if there aren't even you can always send something back. You know what your doing you have been in BAF before.

You should respond to every single offer IMO. Then if I see something I counter or be honest with the other GM. At minimum you build a rapport with someone so if somethings comes down the line they think of you.

Too often the common courtesy / rapport factor is lost on some of these GMs.

I’ll never understand GMs who leave people on read, refuse to counter or offer any perspective on why they decline a proposed deal, and largely fail to see value in a simple human element such as negotiating with candor and timeliness.

I’ve created solid relationships with fellow GMs just by being willing to answer PMs, close gaps on trade views via open communication lines, and having a strong enough rapport that we could work through difficult multi-team deals to close when at times it didn’t always look promising.

How many years have I been in your PM's about Derrick White? You know I like him and I keep shooting my shot because I get new pieces and I don't know if the new pieces you value more than the others. I just trying to put myself in that GM's shoes to see if the players I send fit there vision...sometimes it doesn't work. But you miss every shot you don't take.

No lies detected!

[Mecca]

I’m seeing a lot of flaws in your argument.

You had multiple opportunities to move off those contracts to move those contracts for cap space and picks. But you claim no one wanted to touch them despite other GMs saying otherwise.


Now you’re saying you only wanted to move smart and not the other bad contracts? And you’re gonna go inactive for a year because of that?

I have never had an opportunity to move off of Jonas or Smart. Would love someone to step up and say they offered a deal w them

I want to be inactive bc that's my strategy. I'll make my pick and circle back in a year

I have deals on table rn for Tobias/LeVert but don't plan on accepting & would rather let them expire or trade at deadline

Is it just smart or also JV you want to move? You’re not being consistent at all in your arguments.

You just said you were going inactive because nobody wanted to pass the rule. Not because of a strategy.

You all over the place man.

Those are the deals I wanted to get off above all.

Bc the rule isn't passed, my strategy has changed to let contracts die and hide out another year

Please don't respond to this, I'm done here

[3toheadmelo]

I have never had an opportunity to move off of Jonas or Smart. Would love someone to step up and say they offered a deal w them

I want to be inactive bc that's my strategy. I'll make my pick and circle back in a year

I have deals on table rn for Tobias/LeVert but don't plan on accepting & would rather let them expire or trade at deadline

Is it just smart or also JV you want to move? You’re not being consistent at all in your arguments.

You just said you were going inactive because nobody wanted to pass the rule. Not because of a strategy.

You all over the place man.

Those are the deals I wanted to get off above all.

Bc the rule isn't passed, my strategy has changed to let contracts die and hide out another year

Please don't respond to this, I'm done here

God speed my brother.

[Fat]

All these trades and the spurs keep winning it

[NewEra]

I saw that offer, none of your offers were somewhat even. There was nothing to talk about

even if there aren't even you can always send something back. You know what your doing you have been in BAF before.

You should respond to every single offer IMO. Then if I see something I counter or be honest with the other GM. At minimum you build a rapport with someone so if somethings comes down the line they think of you.

I known NewEra for almost 20 years now, we never made a trade together and never will

That’s fine. Acknowledgement is courtesy. Like I said, my offer to you sat in my outbox for weeks before I deleted it. If you don’t want me to send you offers at all in the future that’s cool with me. I have great relationships with every GM here and have done deals with just about all of them.

[Mecca]

even if there aren't even you can always send something back. You know what your doing you have been in BAF before.

You should respond to every single offer IMO. Then if I see something I counter or be honest with the other GM. At minimum you build a rapport with someone so if somethings comes down the line they think of you.

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I known NewEra for almost 20 years now, we never made a trade together and never will

That’s fine. Acknowledgement is courtesy. Like I said, my offer to you sat in my outbox for weeks before I deleted it. If you don’t want me to send you offers at all in the future that’s cool with me. I have great relationships with every GM here and have done deals with just about all of them.

I love you newera, great guy, just not a trade partner

[Capn'O]

I even respond to Hoffa offers.

Like this:

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[Capn'O]

How many years have I been in your PM's about Derrick White?

I've followed that mfer from Deeeez to NE to 2010 and no **** dice

[Capn'O]

I’ll never understand GMs who leave people on read, refuse to counter or offer any perspective on why they decline a proposed deal, and largely fail to see value in a simple human element such as negotiating with candor and timeliness.

Spoiler: