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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1621 » by mpharris36 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:30 pm

Im Coming Home wrote:Damn what a waste of time this HUGE news was..

Don't hype the news and do a space saying you'll tell everyone if you can't


you gotta know how sources work....read the tea leaves.

They mentinoed Kidd

they haven't talked Giannis but there are directing that they are interested in getting another star while keeping KAT....you do the math.
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1622 » by The KnicksFix » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:30 pm

wtf am I listening to? It sounds like all of us drunkenly babbling our own opinions
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1623 » by Im Coming Home » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:30 pm

Strick wrote:Rick Brunson permanently tied to JB on the Knicks. Not surprising I guess

Hope that doesn't get the Knicks in trouble with the NBA :lol:
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1624 » by sol537 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:31 pm

Putting the rumors together...

Mikal, OG, Mitch out in a 3-way to bring back Giannis and Portis?
Deuce, Precious, Dadiet, out for DDV?

KAT / Huk
Giannis / Portis
Hart / Shamet
DDV / McCullar
Brunson / Kolek

Coach: Jason Kidd

Not bad...
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1625 » by gavran » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:31 pm

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With no other good starters and a sh*t bench.

BLUEPRINT

Ah, a superteam in the post-superteam era. The Creed of grunge


damn

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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1626 » by aq_ua » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:31 pm

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Monica McNutt kept it real. On ESPN today, she explained it from the perspective that the team had outgrown Thibs.

And yet the candidate pool for replacements seem to be a bunch of player development focused coaches. I don’t buy it - we’re hiring an established NBA coach or it was a big mistake.


What's wrong with a developmental coach? We are probably going to need some of the younger guys to contribute and wouldn't mind if KAT learned how to set a screen or if Brunson learned how to run a 2 man game or if OG learned how to dribble and chew gum or if Mikal learned how to fight over a screen again or if Hart or Mitch developed a single reliable skill outside of rebounding :D

But seriously if we keep this roster together we are going to need them to be better players than they have shown themselves to be this past season. With the limited assets the team has to improve they will need to find a way to squeeze every bit of juice out of the roster from making better use of the players together to individual improvements of the players. Thibs was an established coach and far from a developmental guy.

Our core is anywhere between 28 and 30, in the primes of their career and very much solidified in what they do. I don’t think it’s realistic to expect these guys to suddenly develop a new skill or master à weakness they’ve struggled with their whole career. Player development implies working with and focusing on improving our younger talent, which means playing time and living with the challenges and failings of the youth. That flies in the cave of what is presumably being viewed as a window to compete for a championship and maximizing the core veteran talent we have.

Guys like Bryant and the college coaches might be great at getting our younger guys into the rotation, but it would be foolish to believe that a first year NBA coach would be better than Thibs at getting this closer to a championship.
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1627 » by Jeff Van Gully » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:31 pm

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As of last year...Mikal and OG were basically worth 7 1st round picks between each other.

The idea that the value has changed a lot since just 1 year has always been wild to me.

Yea I mean OG was supposed to be worth multiple picks - knicks got him for less because he was a pending free agent, and Quickley had a lot of value.

Bridges was worth a few picks (knicks overpaid by a couple).

Combine them together and it's not terrible value for the bucks - or if it's a 3-4 team trade where younger/better prospects and picks go to the bucks.



It was rumored Memphis was willing to give 4 1sts for Mikal. That was like last year.


it was another player in that OG trade for value. y'all ain't ****. :lol:
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1628 » by kNicksGmen » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:31 pm

Strick wrote:Was Thibs’ fate sealed before the playoff run?

No comment: (due to not being able to answer)

Interesting

I think they moved on from Thibs the day they traded for Kat. They knew it was likely to not work but couldn't fire him at that point.
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1629 » by 2010 » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:31 pm

This turning into a post divorce counseling therapy session.

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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1630 » by The KnicksFix » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:32 pm

sol537 wrote:Putting the rumors together...

Mikal, OG, Mitch out in a 3-way to bring back Giannis and Portis?
Deuce, Precious, Dadiet, out for DDV?

KAT / Huk
Giannis / Portis
Hart / Shamet
DDV / McCullar
Brunson / Kolek

Coach: Jason Kidd

Not bad...


Nahhhh b. I don’t like that at all
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1631 » by DaGawd » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:32 pm

thebuzzardman wrote:I am considerably less excited than 30 minutes ago

back to work brother
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1632 » by GettinitDone » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:32 pm



3:00 - I would argue they pretty significantly underachieved relative to their talent level
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1633 » by kNicksGmen » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:34 pm

Could KD be a "star" while keeping Kat?

Mitch + OG or something like that?

leaves a hole at Center though.
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1634 » by ophdog » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:34 pm

That was a tough lesson and I think BKE lost his new found credibility when you hype emergency news and then give speculation and minor updates
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1635 » by GettinitDone » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:34 pm

In other news, Suns hired Jordan Ott, Johnny still on the table

Maybe Johnny said to the Suns he's not coming cuz he's been talking with Leon to be hc of the Knicks lol
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1636 » by knicksstuff » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:34 pm

The KnicksFix wrote:
sol537 wrote:Putting the rumors together...

Mikal, OG, Mitch out in a 3-way to bring back Giannis and Portis?
Deuce, Precious, Dadiet, out for DDV?

KAT / Huk
Giannis / Portis
Hart / Shamet
DDV / McCullar
Brunson / Kolek

Coach: Jason Kidd

Not bad...


Nahhhh b. I don’t like that at all

absolutely can not have giannis and hart on the floor together
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1637 » by Jeff Van Gully » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:34 pm

gavran wrote:
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gavran wrote:Ah, a superteam in the post-superteam era. The Creed of grunge


damn

I know, I'm firing on all cylinders today, my metaphors slap. Like Jason Kidd.


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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1638 » by GONYK » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:35 pm

kNicksGmen wrote:Could KD be a "star" while keeping Kat?

Mitch + OG or something like that?

leaves a hole at Center though.


They said no KD
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Re: Breaking: Tom Fired 

Post#1639 » by Fury » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:35 pm

If you can somehow get

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Post#1640 » by Carl_Karlson » Wed Jun 4, 2025 8:35 pm

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