July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread

[3toheadmelo]

lamarcus aldridge detailed his free agency process. here's what he had to say about the knicks http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nba-am-aldridge-details-his-free-agency-process/

Another storied franchise in the midst of a rebuilding project but in the market for elite talent with the necessary money to spend was the New York Knicks. However, the two parties never met because of different philosophies upfront.

“About the New York Knicks, they told me that they wanted me to play strictly [center],” Aldridge said. “So they didn’t want to meet with me. People was saying it was me, but it was both parties agreeing that we shouldn’t meet.”

[NBA Fan 1234]

You can't just disregard 6 games because "their season was over." Players still go out every game trying to win. I'd like to see a list of players who "put up good numbers in April when the games have zero meaning." Curious as to what you will find...if anything.

He was GOOD in March and April, which makes sense coming back from the Nuggets' medical staff ****.

That's not true. Everybody knows April is Fools gold. I've even heard that a ton of NBA execs completely ignore all players that only showed life in April (like, for example, Zach LaVine). Half the league is coasting, nearly half is tanking, and only like 5 teams are fighting for playoffs spots.

So it makes more sense to ignore the last 6 games than to include them in his season...? Especially after what he did the previous month. I mean, I guess March is another tanking month. The 6 games he played in were against 3 playoff teams and one of the hottest teams in the second half (Utah).

[Greenie]

Can we trade for Trey Burke?

[NBA Fan 1234]

Can't believe Gallinari is about to make 17M a while Wilson will make less than 12M a year. They have about the same production with Will slightly ahead in terms of defense and staying healthy.

IIRC, Gallo actually has better defensive stats (and this makes sense watching games, too - Wilson is a great athlete, but has a VERY limited understanding on how to play defense). Wilson has health on him, that's all.

If you want to use defensive win shares, fine, but don't tell me Wilson Chandler is a bad defender. He moves his feet well and stay with his man as attested by his steal and block stats.

I thought people were passed using those stats to define what player is good on defense. Same with assists and playmaking...guess not. Wilson is the much better athlete, but he relies way too much on it on defense - he's still ball watching, lazy running guys off screens, mediocre rotating, etc. I never said he was a bad defender; I said he had a limited understanding of how to play defense. I should have added he is a good defender thanks to his athleticism, but oh well I forgot and added it now.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Can we trade for Trey Burke?

Ew why? He's garbage and a terrible fit.

[E-Balla]

You can't just disregard 6 games because "their season was over." Players still go out every game trying to win. I'd like to see a list of players who "put up good numbers in April when the games have zero meaning." Curious as to what you will find...if anything.

He was GOOD in March and April, which makes sense coming back from the Nuggets' medical staff ****.

That's not true. Everybody knows April is Fools gold. I've even heard that a ton of NBA execs completely ignore all players that only showed life in April (like, for example, Zach LaVine). Half the league is coasting, nearly half is tanking, and only like 5 teams are fighting for playoffs spots.

So it makes more sense to ignore the last 6 games than to include them in his season...? Especially after what he did the previous month. I mean, I guess March is another tanking month. The 6 games he played in were against 3 playoff teams and one of the hottest teams in the second half (Utah).

Oh I don't agree with NYKTAPE. Just saying that April alone isn't a good sample. April and March is though and I think Gallo is back as long as he can stay healthy.

[E-Balla]

Can we trade for Trey Burke?

Ew why? He's garbage and a terrible fit.

You had to ask that? He's a prime light skin... (no homo)

[NBA Fan 1234]

Indiana Pacers are a lottery team this year. I'd try to work a trade for Paul George even if includes future picks.

They just missed playoffs last year with a net negative at C and with essentially no PG. No idea why people are sleeping on them. They need a PF, but that defense will still be elite and they added a HUGE scoring punch they lacked in previous years in Ellis. I HIGHLY doubt they are a lotto team. Even if they were, why the hell would Bird trade their franchise guy...? Makes no sense at all.

I don't see them being that good either. They lost their defensive frontline and while they regained Paul George, I don't think the increased offense with Ellis will offset it. I think they hover around the 8th seed.

Losing Hibbert will hurt their defense, but Turner's offensive skills and his defensive abilities (which are great at the rim), shouldn't kill them at all. Losing West hurts more, IMO. They're still gonna funnel guys to Turner and teach him to use his verticality to his advantage.

[Greenie]

Indiana Pacers are a lottery team this year. I'd try to work a trade for Paul George even if includes future picks.

They just missed playoffs last year with a net negative at C and with essentially no PG. No idea why people are sleeping on them. They need a PF, but that defense will still be elite and they added a HUGE scoring punch they lacked in previous years in Ellis. I HIGHLY doubt they are a lotto team. Even if they were, why the hell would Bird trade their franchise guy...? Makes no sense at all.

I don't think their defense will be elite. For all the sh*t he gets, Roy anchored that defense. Ellis is not a defensive stalwart, they have no PF and PG is basically coming off injury. They will take a major step back defensively.

[Yankeeknickfan]

Indiana Pacers are a lottery team this year. I'd try to work a trade for Paul George even if includes future picks.

They just missed playoffs last year with a net negative at C and with essentially no PG. No idea why people are sleeping on them. They need a PF, but that defense will still be elite and they added a HUGE scoring punch they lacked in previous years in Ellis. I HIGHLY doubt they are a lotto team. Even if they were, why the hell would Bird trade their franchise guy...? Makes no sense at all.

I don't think their defense will be elite. For all the sh*t he gets, Roy anchored that defense. Ellis is not a defensive stalwart, they have no PF and PG is basically coming off injury. They will take a major step back defensively.

If healthy monta and Paul will be able to score with the best of them.

[Yankeeknickfan]

They just missed playoffs last year with a net negative at C and with essentially no PG. No idea why people are sleeping on them. They need a PF, but that defense will still be elite and they added a HUGE scoring punch they lacked in previous years in Ellis. I HIGHLY doubt they are a lotto team. Even if they were, why the hell would Bird trade their franchise guy...? Makes no sense at all.

I don't see them being that good either. They lost their defensive frontline and while they regained Paul George, I don't think the increased offense with Ellis will offset it. I think they hover around the 8th seed.

Losing Hibbert will hurt their defense, but Turner's offensive skills and his defensive abilities (which are great at the rim), shouldn't kill them at all. Losing West hurts more, IMO. They're still gonna funnel guys to Turner and teach him to use his verticality to his advantage.

Monta could help turner.

[Greenie]

Can we trade for Trey Burke?

Ew why? He's garbage and a terrible fit.

He's a scoring guard(we need some scoring) and Utah was trying to move him. I say trade Ledo and the rights to Asdfghjkl to Utah for him. Add a highly protected pick if needed. Then sign Sexual Chocolate and lets move.

Grant(I think he starts)/Burke/Calderon
Afflalo/Galloway/???
Anthony/Early/Thomas
Williams/Porzingis/Ndour
Lopez/O'Quinn/Admunson


We would need to find a 3rd string SG

[Greenie]

They just missed playoffs last year with a net negative at C and with essentially no PG. No idea why people are sleeping on them. They need a PF, but that defense will still be elite and they added a HUGE scoring punch they lacked in previous years in Ellis. I HIGHLY doubt they are a lotto team. Even if they were, why the hell would Bird trade their franchise guy...? Makes no sense at all.

I don't think their defense will be elite. For all the sh*t he gets, Roy anchored that defense. Ellis is not a defensive stalwart, they have no PF and PG is basically coming off injury. They will take a major step back defensively.

If healthy monta and Paul will be able to score with the best of them.

Paul is not an elite scorer. Never was.

[Greenie]

Can we trade for Trey Burke?

Ew why? He's garbage and a terrible fit.

You had to ask that? He's a prime light skin... (no homo)

Can I live?

[moocow007]

Indiana Pacers are a lottery team this year. I'd try to work a trade for Paul George even if includes future picks.

They just missed playoffs last year with a net negative at C and with essentially no PG. No idea why people are sleeping on them. They need a PF, but that defense will still be elite and they added a HUGE scoring punch they lacked in previous years in Ellis. I HIGHLY doubt they are a lotto team. Even if they were, why the hell would Bird trade their franchise guy...? Makes no sense at all.

Ehhh...the 3 guys that made the most positive impact to them beating the Knicks in the playoffs are all gone (Hibbert, Stephenson and West). West was their heart and soul, Stephenson their bark and bite, Hibbert was their defensive backbone. And what made the Pacers great? Great heart, nasty bite and defense. We have no ideal what Paul George will look like coming off injury and now being forced to play a position that he doesn't appear to want to play. I'm not a big fan of a Monta Ellis and Rodney Stuckey backcourt as neither guy are adept at running the type of high paced offense that the Pacers seem to want to play. Even if they make one of Ellis or Stuckey the 6th man, George Hill has never been known for his ability to run an offense, to pass or to do traditional 'true point' stuff (the Pacers were consistently among the worst teams in the NBA in offensive efficiency, pace and turnovers...even during their great seasons from a few years back). Unless they bring back Copeland (who btw shot just 31% from 3 last season) they have no real shooters other than maybe Chase Budinger (and if Budinger is your best shooter, you're probably not a good shooting team) which, with a lack of a true floor general will make any speedball offense extremely dubious. Folks IMO are still remembering them and projecting them based on what they did in 2013-2014 and not realizing that that team is gone. This is basically a brand new team trying to run a brand new system with parts that, on paper, may not seem the best fitting. It's not just about throwing a bunch of talents out there and expecting them to win...if it were that easy Isiah Thomas would still be running things. I don't particularly like the Pacers team as constructed.

[3toheadmelo]

Can we trade for Trey Burke?

Ew why? He's garbage and a terrible fit.

He's a scoring guard(we need some scoring) and Utah was trying to move him. I say trade Ledo and the rights to Asdfghjkl to Utah for him. Add a highly protected pick if needed. Then sign Sexual Chocolate and lets move.

Grant(I think he starts)/Burke/Calderon
Afflalo/Galloway/???
Anthony/Early/Thomas
Williams/Porzingis/Ndour
Lopez/O'Quinn/Admunson


We would need to find a 3rd string SG

i think we're probably gonna end up sticking with ledo, im suprised we didnt go after jenkins or even curry. lets just hope fisher can bring out ledo's potential

[NBA Fan 1234]

Can we trade for Trey Burke?

Ew why? He's garbage and a terrible fit.

You had to ask that? He's a prime light skin... (no homo)

Figured that was that reason :/ Does Greenie ever want players that aren't like that? WHY NO LOVE FOR SNELL?!?!

[Greenie]

Ew why? He's garbage and a terrible fit.

You had to ask that? He's a prime light skin... (no homo)

Figured that was that reason :/ Does Greenie ever want players that aren't like that? WHY NO LOVE FOR SNELL?!?!

I gave you good reason.

Snell gets no love because he has no love for my eyes!!!

[Capn'O]

You had to ask that? He's a prime light skin... (no homo)

Figured that was that reason :/ Does Greenie ever want players that aren't like that? WHY NO LOVE FOR SNELL?!?!

I gave you good reason.

Snell gets no love because he has no love for my eyes!!!

He's a RFA next season and we will likely need a SG.

[NBA Fan 1234]

Moo, will respond later probably, but will give brief one now - don't like typing much on the app haha.

I understand what you're saying and don't think they'll be an elite team, but George didn't look terrible considering he was coming back from a horrific injury. Recent videos show that his bounce is back and I'm sure his jumper will be back shortly.

Losing their heart and soul (West) was a big blow, but they got a 20ppg scorer and retained a good 6th man. I honestly think Turner will be able to replicate Hibbert's impact on game (better offense, defense at lower level...in beginning, at least). That team will be a great defensive team as long as they have PG, Hill, a guy you can funnel players to (Turner), and a great defensive coach. Probably not too 5 in East, but I can't see them not making playoffs.