July 1st Free Agency Begins - Catchall thread

Greenie · Post #16341 » by **Greenie** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 5:59 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
greenhughes wrote:I'm in here to tell you guys something again and I'm gonna keep doing it.
Spoiler:
I want Trey Burke. We need a scorer.
Phil, do what's right.

The guy who has shot 37.4% from the FIELD (and is sub 1PPS) for his career is a scorer?

2 years.

Fury · Post #16342 » by **Fury** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:03 pm

That was like the only shot he made all year

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #16343 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:08 pm

greenhughes wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
greenhughes wrote:I'm in here to tell you guys something again and I'm gonna keep doing it.
Spoiler:
I want Trey Burke. We need a scorer.
Phil, do what's right.

The guy who has shot 37.4% from the FIELD (and is sub 1PPS) for his career is a scorer?

2 years.

And he was **** essentially every game. In the second half of last season, Utah found ways to win games despite Burke's horrible outgoings. They were literally better with him on the bench (for the last two years)...and their only other option last year was a 6'6 PG with skills but who has most recently gone up against HS talent in Australia but he also was having a **** year.

He's not good, Greenie.

swisscheeseD · Post #16344 » by **swisscheeseD** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:09 pm

Fury wrote:That was like the only shot he made all year

It certainly wasn't the only one he took either.

N Y K · Post #16345 » by **N Y K** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:11 pm

This picture is hilarious. YOUR LOS ANGELES LAKERS!
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SerenaWinters/status/623917559146917888[/tweet]

EchelonNYK · Post #16346 » by **EchelonNYK** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:14 pm

Lou looks like he doesn't give a f*ck. Polo shirt and some jeans from Sears.

Greenie · Post #16347 » by **Greenie** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:17 pm

Stop looking at numbers with young players. Take a gamble. He's 6th man material. You act like our team is above him and we can't use his potential scoring. He's headed into the last year of his rookie deal so if he doesn't work out you can let him go.

This same thinking had people say hell no to players like Whiteside. Sometimes it takes players time to find footing and establish themselves.

NBA Fan 1234 · Post #16348 » by **NBA Fan 1234** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:21 pm

greenhughes wrote:Stop looking at numbers with young players. Take a gamble. He's 6th man material. You act like our team is above him and we can't use his potential scoring. He's headed into the last year of his rookie deal so if he doesn't work out you can let him go.

This same thinking had people say hell no to players like Whiteside. Sometimes it takes players time to find footing and establish themselves.

Whiteside always had the tools - his questions were all mental (and whether or not he could add weight).

Burke has shown nothing that says he's a scorer, unless we're looking for inefficient scoring. I agree it could be worth a roll of the dice, but that's mainly because we have nothing to lose. I prefer my "scorers" to be good at scoring the ball...Burke isn't even average and his poor size for the position and mediocre athleticism doesn't help negate that.

BallSacBounce · Post #16349 » by **BallSacBounce** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:25 pm

KnicksGod wrote:One thing that concerns me is that KOQ didn't speak that confidently in any interview I saw. He seemed to say he's not a scorer, that he knew he wasn't in line for one of the top contracts, etc. Indeed I think he took less than he should have perhaps.

Humility is good -- seems like a great guy -- but he has a lot of tools out there. He's not going to be Larry Bird with the J but seems like he has the potential to be a really good scorer, passer, and registers across a number of hustle metrics. That's a diamond in the rough but he speaks more like he's just a small cog. I believe he said he sees himself as a backup and would be happy with his 20, 25 MPG.

He did however say he was obsessed with winning.

Something to watch for. This guy should expect and strive for greatness.

The guy I worry about is Williams. He seems kind of ADD. Like he doesn't focus well. Just going off the SL interview they did with him. It's not really a knock, there's medication for that but it could be why he hasn't put it together.

NYKnicksTAPE · Post #16350 » by **NYKnicksTAPE** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:29 pm

BallSacBounce wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:One thing that concerns me is that KOQ didn't speak that confidently in any interview I saw. He seemed to say he's not a scorer, that he knew he wasn't in line for one of the top contracts, etc. Indeed I think he took less than he should have perhaps.

Humility is good -- seems like a great guy -- but he has a lot of tools out there. He's not going to be Larry Bird with the J but seems like he has the potential to be a really good scorer, passer, and registers across a number of hustle metrics. That's a diamond in the rough but he speaks more like he's just a small cog. I believe he said he sees himself as a backup and would be happy with his 20, 25 MPG.

He did however say he was obsessed with winning.

Something to watch for. This guy should expect and strive for greatness.

The guy I worry about is Williams. He seems kind of ADD. Like he doesn't focus well. Just going off the SL interview they did with him. It's not really a knock, there's medication for that but it could be why he hasn't put it together.

It probably has more to do with the fact that he's just not a good basketball player

BallSacBounce · Post #16351 » by **BallSacBounce** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:33 pm

greenhughes wrote:I'm in here to tell you guys something again and I'm gonna keep doing it.
Spoiler:
I want Trey Burke. We need a scorer.
Phil, do what's right.

Very lizard like.

swisscheeseD · Post #16352 » by **swisscheeseD** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:33 pm

I'd rather have Pat Burke.

stuporman · Post #16353 » by **stuporman** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:33 pm

Fisher saw that pic of the new Lakers, went to Jackson and said, "That Lou Williams guy sure knows how to rock a buttoned up polo, why didn't we sign him?"

Post #16354 » by **Capn'O** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:41 pm

moocow007 wrote:In fact this is a real life experience of sorts for me. When I was in HS, i liked this girl that was in the very popular crowd. She never talked to me other than an occasional smile here and there (couldn't tell if it was because my zipper was open or I had something in my teeth or what). Prom was coming up and most of my friends were resigned to either not going or asking some ugly or unpopular chick to it (to be sure that they at least have a date). i said, screw it, what's the worst that could happen? She says no? She laughs in my face? So I asked her. Her response? Sure, I love to. She told me she always wondered why I never talked to her (so she knew who I was and that I was interested).

Heh. I had a similar experience in HS. It ended up being a little awkward because we didn't really have much in common and I didn't have the sense yet to realize that didn't matter for the task at hand. But it was fun to get that response. "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take."

Post #16355 » by **moocow007** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:41 pm

CharlesOakleeey wrote:This picture is hilarious. YOUR LOS ANGELES LAKERS!
[tweet]https://twitter.com/SerenaWinters/status/623917559146917888[/tweet]

Lou: "...I think I could have gotten more than 21 million dollars..."
Roy: "Hmm...so they want me to anchor the defense...I should ask them for a contract extension...yeah"
Bass: "Wait...what do you mean this isn't the Spurs?"

Post #16356 » by **dakomish23** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:50 pm

greenhughes wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
greenhughes wrote:I'm in here to tell you guys something again and I'm gonna keep doing it.
Spoiler:
I want Trey Burke. We need a scorer.
Phil, do what's right.

The guy who has shot 37.4% from the FIELD (and is sub 1PPS) for his career is a scorer?

2 years.

Why was JR 6 feet away from him for a last second shot?

Delinquent behavior

Post #16357 » by **dakomish23** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:51 pm

Maybe I missed it, but is Thanos on the 15 man team or not?

Post #16358 » by **K_ick_God** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 6:58 pm

moocow007 wrote:
KnicksGod wrote:One thing that concerns me is that KOQ didn't speak that confidently in any interview I saw. He seemed to say he's not a scorer, that he knew he wasn't in line for one of the top contracts, etc. Indeed I think he took less than he should have perhaps.

Humility is good -- seems like a great guy -- but he has a lot of tools out there. He's not going to be Larry Bird with the J but seems like he has the potential to be a really good scorer, passer, and registers across a number of hustle metrics. That's a diamond in the rough but he speaks more like he's just a small cog. I believe he said he sees himself as a backup.

Something to watch for. This guy should expect and strive for greatness.

I don't know I kinda got an different vibe from those interviews. Yeah part of it is that I think he's just a humble/shy type guy but I got the sense that he felt the opportunity in NY was going to be great for him in terms of taking his game the next level. He sounded amped about being back home in familiar surroundings and that having family and friends cheering him on will be great. I think he'll be fine. He did seem to put the emphasis on defense, rebounding and hardwork which is good. I think if he focuses on that, whatever offense we get will just be gravy. He apparently looked good enough in his rookie season for the Magic to think that he can not only play PF but also be a stretch 4 offensively. So he should be able to tow a little of the offensive load. I think this will be good. Anthony has a lot more help offensively than he had last season without having to worry about his alpha role being taken over. He's got better defenders around him and everyone appears to know their roles. I think the dynamic is going to be fine IF Anthony fully accepts and buys into it.

Agree that Melo buy-in is crucial. Maybe I am misreading something or maybe he's just one of those guys who is not going to believe his future is as a major scorer. Lots of NBA players do and it gets them nowhere really. I just don't want him to set the ceiling on his impact as a solid bench player.

If we're going to be really improved, he will probably have to have significant impact on both sides.

And100 · Post #16359 » by **And100** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:08 pm

dakomish23 wrote:Maybe I missed it, but is Thanos on the 15 man team or not?

Not yet no.

Darkseid on the other hand...

Zooropa · Post #16360 » by **Zooropa** » Wed Jul 22, 2015 7:14 pm

greenhughes wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
greenhughes wrote:I'm in here to tell you guys something again and I'm gonna keep doing it.
Spoiler:
I want Trey Burke. We need a scorer.
Phil, do what's right.

The guy who has shot 37.4% from the FIELD (and is sub 1PPS) for his career is a scorer?

2 years.

I was 10 rows behind that basket. Thanks for reminding me.