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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1641 » by Capn'O » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:44 pm

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CharlesOakley wrote:Would they ever call this guy a terrorist even if he had gotten to go through with his plans? The discussion around white, male terrorists always seems to revolve around mental illness. They just don't get the same labels. "Terrorist" is reserved for brown people.


Which "they?" It seems like law enforcement/government reps are restraining from calling the Orlando killer a terrorist as his ties to terrorist groups (Daesh/ISIS) were not formal i.e. there is no evidence yet that he was in direct contact with them. This is the correct approach, imo.

There is common discussion that because uninformed people use the word "terrorist" wrong that it should be more generally applied. That is a dangerous approach. It ought to be applied in the more narrow scope of coordinated, political attacks.


The problem is that the more loosely this word is thrown around, the more people get thrown under the blanket that don't deserve it. You can then apply the word "terrorist" to just about anyone you want. Protesters, Prius drivers (I've gotten "terrorist" for this), and yeah, lone wolves. The Western World is at war with Daesh and to a lesser extent now Al Qaida. Not Islam. And I think both sides of the debate need to better understand this. Muslims that don't align themselves with Daesh, and this is the vast, vast majority of those in the Middle East and world, are a target of Daesh. They are considered traitors and have frequently been among those murdered in the recent attacks in the US and abroad. "Mainstream" Muslims have been indiscriminately killed in these attacks. In the US, in particular, mainstream Muslims have been a great ally in identifying who among them is sympathetic with these fringe groups.

By and large, it needs to be better understood that A) there is a discrete enemy that aims to inspire terrorist acts and that B) most Muslims have nothing to do with it and are in fact very threatened by Daesh.


Obama is being very careful with the languaging. Calling them ISIL and not the Islamic State. The ones who are playing the hate speech game also are the ones who loathe Obama.


I prefer Daesh (which John Kerry has taken on). Mostly, because apparently they particularly hate it.

http://www.voanews.com/content/why-kerry-calls-islamic-state-daesh/3148557.html
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1642 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:54 pm

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CharlesOakley wrote:Would they ever call this guy a terrorist even if he had gotten to go through with his plans? The discussion around white, male terrorists always seems to revolve around mental illness. They just don't get the same labels. "Terrorist" is reserved for brown people.


Which "they?" It seems like law enforcement/government reps are restraining from calling the Orlando killer a terrorist as his ties to terrorist groups (Daesh/ISIS) were not formal i.e. there is no evidence yet that he was in direct contact with them. This is the correct approach, imo.

There is common discussion that because uninformed people use the word "terrorist" wrong that it should be more generally applied. That is a dangerous approach. It ought to be applied in the more narrow scope of coordinated, political attacks.


The problem is that the more loosely this word is thrown around, the more people get thrown under the blanket that don't deserve it. You can then apply the word "terrorist" to just about anyone you want. Protesters, Prius drivers (I've gotten "terrorist" for this), and yeah, lone wolves. The Western World is at war with Daesh and to a lesser extent now Al Qaida. Not Islam. And I think both sides of the debate need to better understand this. Muslims that don't align themselves with Daesh, and this is the vast, vast majority of those in the Middle East and world, are a target of Daesh. They are considered traitors and have frequently been among those murdered in the recent attacks in the US and abroad. "Mainstream" Muslims have been indiscriminately killed in these attacks. In the US, in particular, mainstream Muslims have been a great ally in identifying who among them is sympathetic with these fringe groups.

By and large, it needs to be better understood that A) there is a discrete enemy that aims to inspire terrorist acts and that B) most Muslims have nothing to do with it and are in fact very threatened by Daesh.


Awesome awesome awesome post.

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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1643 » by Capn'O » Mon Jun 13, 2016 8:57 pm

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...but you drive a Prius? Always pegged you for a Smart Car kinda guy. Image


:lol:

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I looked at the Smart Car EVs and they looked downright awful. The Spark is great though.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1644 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:05 pm

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Knickstape1214 wrote:
...but you drive a Prius? Always pegged you for a Smart Car kinda guy. Image


:lol:

For day to day trips Mrs. 'O has the Prius now. I got a Chevy Spark. No frills but a lot of fun to drive :-)

I looked at the Smart Car EVs and they looked downright awful. The Spark is great though.


Whatever gets the job done. I'd LOVE a Tesla SUV when I start making money :lol: After driving around in a rental Mazda minivan for two months in Oklahoma as a 21 year old, I think I deserve one. It was a legit small minivan with a sliding door. I'd get made fun of by my then GF and her family. :-?
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1645 » by Capn'O » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:08 pm

Knickstape1214 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
...but you drive a Prius? Always pegged you for a Smart Car kinda guy. Image


:lol:

For day to day trips Mrs. 'O has the Prius now. I got a Chevy Spark. No frills but a lot of fun to drive :-)

I looked at the Smart Car EVs and they looked downright awful. The Spark is great though.


Whatever gets the job done. I'd LOVE a Tesla SUV when I start making money :lol: After driving around in a rental Mazda minivan for two months in Oklahoma as a 21 year old, I think I deserve one. It was a legit small minivan with a sliding door. I'd get made fun of by my then GF and her family. :-?


One of my buddies has a Model S. It is so fcking sweet. He's a nut driving it too so when we go hiking it's like a damn roller coaster on some of those mountain roads.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1646 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:12 pm

Capn'O wrote:
Knickstape1214 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
:lol:

For day to day trips Mrs. 'O has the Prius now. I got a Chevy Spark. No frills but a lot of fun to drive :-)

I looked at the Smart Car EVs and they looked downright awful. The Spark is great though.


Whatever gets the job done. I'd LOVE a Tesla SUV when I start making money :lol: After driving around in a rental Mazda minivan for two months in Oklahoma as a 21 year old, I think I deserve one. It was a legit small minivan with a sliding door. I'd get made fun of by my then GF and her family. :-?


One of my buddies has a Model S. It is so fcking sweet. He's a nut driving it too so when we go hiking it's like a damn roller coaster on some of those mountain roads.


Only time I've been in one is at one of their stores. I saw one of the SUVs two months ago on the upper east side - suicide doors were up. It was awesome.

My great uncle put money down for the one being released next year.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1647 » by Capn'O » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:14 pm

^hott. make sure you tell him just how great an uncle he is.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1648 » by CJackson » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:19 pm

Capn'O wrote:
CJackson wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
Which "they?" It seems like law enforcement/government reps are restraining from calling the Orlando killer a terrorist as his ties to terrorist groups (Daesh/ISIS) were not formal i.e. there is no evidence yet that he was in direct contact with them. This is the correct approach, imo.

There is common discussion that because uninformed people use the word "terrorist" wrong that it should be more generally applied. That is a dangerous approach. It ought to be applied in the more narrow scope of coordinated, political attacks.


The problem is that the more loosely this word is thrown around, the more people get thrown under the blanket that don't deserve it. You can then apply the word "terrorist" to just about anyone you want. Protesters, Prius drivers (I've gotten "terrorist" for this), and yeah, lone wolves. The Western World is at war with Daesh and to a lesser extent now Al Qaida. Not Islam. And I think both sides of the debate need to better understand this. Muslims that don't align themselves with Daesh, and this is the vast, vast majority of those in the Middle East and world, are a target of Daesh. They are considered traitors and have frequently been among those murdered in the recent attacks in the US and abroad. "Mainstream" Muslims have been indiscriminately killed in these attacks. In the US, in particular, mainstream Muslims have been a great ally in identifying who among them is sympathetic with these fringe groups.

By and large, it needs to be better understood that A) there is a discrete enemy that aims to inspire terrorist acts and that B) most Muslims have nothing to do with it and are in fact very threatened by Daesh.


Obama is being very careful with the languaging. Calling them ISIL and not the Islamic State. The ones who are playing the hate speech game also are the ones who loathe Obama.


I prefer Daesh (which John Kerry has taken on). Mostly, because apparently they particularly hate it.

http://www.voanews.com/content/why-kerry-calls-islamic-state-daesh/3148557.html


Daesh it is

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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1649 » by G I N T » Mon Jun 13, 2016 9:54 pm

CharlesOakley wrote:
G I N T wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:That was good for a laugh, not sure if you seriously believed what you wrote. Just sad if you actually do, however. :lol:

The problem lies within the specific text of the holy book of none other than the religion of Islam. Certain lines in the Quran are interpreted by enough crazy Muslims to justify doing what they've been doing for the past two decades. They brainwash the next generation of these idiots who actually believe they're doing "Allah's will" or whatever, and the cycle continues.

That's why we don't call it radical Christianity, radical Judaism, radical Buddhism, radical Hinduism, radical atheism or anything else. No other religion/belief system produces what you see coming from Islam.

Trump's solution is the common sense and only logical solution - do anything possible within one's power to wipe them out, aka do your #1 job as a commander in chief, which is to keep the country safe. Extreme measures must be taken, but that's too bad because there's no other way to get it done.

It's a simple, straightforward concept that flies way over the heads of simple-minded, slow people like Obama and Hillary.

But yes, "we're to blame" for it... come on now.


Since you are an expert in interpreting religious texts you know that the Bible has been used to support everything from slavery to genocide to homophobia. The are plenty of extremist groups from all religions. I know the media has boiled down the problem of terrorism to the stunningly simple "Islam = bad" so that simpletons can pretend they understand how something like this can come to exist.

What you fail to recognize is that Islam exists all over the world and in many progressive societies. Yet the lions share of Islamic terrorism comes from one region of the world. It just so happens that the middle east has a collection of violent dictators and oppressive regimes which breed this sort of thing.

As for the role the US has in all of this, we funded the Taliban and Al-Queda (or the mujahideen which became these groups). We also had a major role in the creation of ISIS through our work in Syria. It has also been our unwavering support of Israel over Palestine, regardless of human rights violations, that put a target on our back.

ISIS members don't go around wearing t-shirts that say "ISIS member". Trump's master plan is to bomb the region until somehow ISIS unravels. This mean collateral damage, the death of many innocent, non-violent muslims which will lead to even more terrorists. That "plan" has literally never worked and is the reason for ISIS in the first place.

What could possibly go wrong?

So what? The only terrorists are all Muslim, so your point about other religious texts mean nothing. I never said "Islam = bad" but rather that "all terrorists = Muslim" which is the simple truth. It's an Islamic problem and anyone who continues to bury their head in the sand and deny it simply doesn't deserve respect.

9/11 hijackers = Muslim, Taliban = Muslim, San Bernardino nuts = Muslim, Fort Hood shooter = Muslim, Paris attack terrorists = Muslim, Pulse nightclub shooter = Muslim, ISIS = Muslim.

The loons chant "Allahu Ahkbar" every time they commit these massacres, and that is a phrase that only Muslims use. So yes, plain and simple, it is a problem with Islam and nothing more.

No, there are no "extremist groups of all religions." What could you possibly point to today that even compares to fanatical Islam? Nothing compares.

And if you have any better ideas other than bombing them to extinction, everyone is all ears. Fact is, Trump's proposed policies definitely make more sense than those of dummies like Clinton and Obama.

What have either of these two done/said to warrant your trust in them to successfully defeat Islamic terrorism? They look like total failures to me.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1650 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:19 pm

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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1651 » by CJackson » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:25 pm

haha nice little bernie closer there

TBH trump with blue skin doesnt look much different than trump with orange skin
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Post#1652 » by NBA Fan 1234 » Mon Jun 13, 2016 10:26 pm

CJackson wrote:haha nice little bernie closer there

TBH trump with blue skin doesnt look much different than trump with orange skin


Was laughing the whole time but literally laughed out loud when Bernie came on.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1653 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:45 am

G I N T wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:
G I N T wrote:


Since you are an expert in interpreting religious texts you know that the Bible has been used to support everything from slavery to genocide to homophobia. The are plenty of extremist groups from all religions. I know the media has boiled down the problem of terrorism to the stunningly simple "Islam = bad" so that simpletons can pretend they understand how something like this can come to exist.

What you fail to recognize is that Islam exists all over the world and in many progressive societies. Yet the lions share of Islamic terrorism comes from one region of the world. It just so happens that the middle east has a collection of violent dictators and oppressive regimes which breed this sort of thing.

As for the role the US has in all of this, we funded the Taliban and Al-Queda (or the mujahideen which became these groups). We also had a major role in the creation of ISIS through our work in Syria. It has also been our unwavering support of Israel over Palestine, regardless of human rights violations, that put a target on our back.

ISIS members don't go around wearing t-shirts that say "ISIS member". Trump's master plan is to bomb the region until somehow ISIS unravels. This mean collateral damage, the death of many innocent, non-violent muslims which will lead to even more terrorists. That "plan" has literally never worked and is the reason for ISIS in the first place.

What could possibly go wrong?

So what? The only terrorists are all Muslim, so your point about other religious texts mean nothing. I never said "Islam = bad" but rather that "all terrorists = Muslim" which is the simple truth. It's an Islamic problem and anyone who continues to bury their head in the sand and deny it simply doesn't deserve respect.

9/11 hijackers = Muslim, Taliban = Muslim, San Bernardino nuts = Muslim, Fort Hood shooter = Muslim, Paris attack terrorists = Muslim, Pulse nightclub shooter = Muslim, ISIS = Muslim.

The loons chant "Allahu Ahkbar" every time they commit these massacres, and that is a phrase that only Muslims use. So yes, plain and simple, it is a problem with Islam and nothing more.

No, there are no "extremist groups of all religions." What could you possibly point to today that even compares to fanatical Islam? Nothing compares.

And if you have any better ideas other than bombing them to extinction, everyone is all ears. Fact is, Trump's proposed policies definitely make more sense than those of dummies like Clinton and Obama.

What have either of these two done/said to warrant your trust in them to successfully defeat Islamic terrorism? They look like total failures to me.




You a full CLOWN. You also need to stop hiding your racism by cute little words. Your intelligence level is weak. The only terroists are Muslims? FOH



Terrorist has at its root the word "terror," which comes from the Latin word terrorem, meaning great fear. Great fear is exactly what terrorists hope to create so they can manipulate the situation to their benefit.



This is what a terrorist looks like as well clown. Since your either very biased, or dumb... this is Dylan Roof, who went inside of a black church and killed 9 people Just last year.


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in His own Words....


I have no choice. I am not in the position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight. I chose Charleston because it is most historic city in my state, and at one time had the highest ratio of blacks to Whites in the country. We have no skinheads, no real KKK, no one doing anything but talking on the internet. Well someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world, and I guess that has to be me.





Its obvious that your a racist clown, who is trying to sound intelligent, but to anyone who has any real intelligence, you look like a fool saying the dumb ****.


I can post a bunch more non Muslims that are terrorists and carried out terrorists acts. The fact is the majority of those who have committed terrorist acts in this country have been white people. Clowns like you is why I never stick my head into this thread. I can easily destroy most weak ****, but just fall back.... dont have time to waste with fools.


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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1654 » by CJackson » Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:58 am

G I N T wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:
G I N T wrote:This once great country cannot continue to be run into the ground by stupid, ignorant people.


Calling the President stupid and ignorant only shows your own stupidity and ignorance.

As for this whole Islam bashing, my personal belief is that religion is a red herring. If you bomb the crap out of people who have nothing, you are going to create terrorists. The religion is an artifact of where the bombs are dropped. As a nation, we have done more to create terrorists than Islam could ever do. The war on terror is about as effective as the war on drugs, which is to say it has the exact opposite effect that is intended.

Trump's solution to terrorism is the same one the NRA has for gun violence. More. Dropping more bombs won't solve the terrorism problem just like arming more citizens won't solve gun violence.

That was good for a laugh, not sure if you seriously believed what you wrote. Just sad if you actually do, however. :lol:

The problem lies within the specific text of the holy book of none other than the religion of Islam. Certain lines in the Quran are interpreted by enough crazy Muslims to justify doing what they've been doing for the past two decades. They brainwash the next generation of these idiots who actually believe they're doing "Allah's will" or whatever, and the cycle continues.

That's why we don't call it radical Christianity, radical Judaism, radical Buddhism, radical Hinduism, radical atheism or anything else. No other religion/belief system produces what you see coming from Islam.

Trump's solution is the common sense and only logical solution - do anything possible within one's power to wipe them out, aka do your #1 job as a commander in chief, which is to keep the country safe. Extreme measures must be taken, but that's too bad because there's no other way to get it done.

It's a simple, straightforward concept that flies way over the heads of simple-minded, slow people like Obama and Hillary.

But yes, "we're to blame" for it... come on now.


It is idiots like you who deserve no respect or board protection from mods because

all you need to do is

substitute jews for muslims

and

say Let's Exterminate The Jews

instead of

Let's Exterminate The Muslims

so I see no reason to pay you the least bit of respect

or

accept any more brain dead accusations of "Ad Hominein" attacks

because

you don't have to have Swastikas in your garage

to effectively be nothing more than a Nazi piece of trash

so fuq off
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1655 » by EricAnderson » Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:58 am

Here comes the deflection again..

But white people do it lets talk about them because I dislike them more then Muslims

Most of these sociopaths who are white and do it aren't doing it in the name of a religion
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Post#1656 » by CharlesOakley » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:06 am

G I N T wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:
G I N T wrote:


Since you are an expert in interpreting religious texts you know that the Bible has been used to support everything from slavery to genocide to homophobia. The are plenty of extremist groups from all religions. I know the media has boiled down the problem of terrorism to the stunningly simple "Islam = bad" so that simpletons can pretend they understand how something like this can come to exist.

What you fail to recognize is that Islam exists all over the world and in many progressive societies. Yet the lions share of Islamic terrorism comes from one region of the world. It just so happens that the middle east has a collection of violent dictators and oppressive regimes which breed this sort of thing.

As for the role the US has in all of this, we funded the Taliban and Al-Queda (or the mujahideen which became these groups). We also had a major role in the creation of ISIS through our work in Syria. It has also been our unwavering support of Israel over Palestine, regardless of human rights violations, that put a target on our back.

ISIS members don't go around wearing t-shirts that say "ISIS member". Trump's master plan is to bomb the region until somehow ISIS unravels. This mean collateral damage, the death of many innocent, non-violent muslims which will lead to even more terrorists. That "plan" has literally never worked and is the reason for ISIS in the first place.

What could possibly go wrong?

So what? The only terrorists are all Muslim, so your point about other religious texts mean nothing. I never said "Islam = bad" but rather that "all terrorists = Muslim" which is the simple truth. It's an Islamic problem and anyone who continues to bury their head in the sand and deny it simply doesn't deserve respect.

9/11 hijackers = Muslim, Taliban = Muslim, San Bernardino nuts = Muslim, Fort Hood shooter = Muslim, Paris attack terrorists = Muslim, Pulse nightclub shooter = Muslim, ISIS = Muslim.

The loons chant "Allahu Ahkbar" every time they commit these massacres, and that is a phrase that only Muslims use. So yes, plain and simple, it is a problem with Islam and nothing more.

No, there are no "extremist groups of all religions." What could you possibly point to today that even compares to fanatical Islam? Nothing compares.

And if you have any better ideas other than bombing them to extinction, everyone is all ears. Fact is, Trump's proposed policies definitely make more sense than those of dummies like Clinton and Obama.

What have either of these two done/said to warrant your trust in them to successfully defeat Islamic terrorism? They look like total failures to me.


If you only get your information from Fox News then you end up with a limited view of what is going on in the world. There are extremist Buddhist monks who have butchered whole villages in Myanmar. There are other violent extremist groups throughout India and south-east Asia. There are also extremist Hindus throughout India who violently attack both Muslims and Christians.

As for extremist Christians, whenever some abortion clinic is attacked, it isn't Muslims doing it. When a Black church was shot up recently it wasn't Muslims. There are Christian extremist groups throughout Africa that do things like mass beheadings in the name of Jesus. Just because we label Muslims as terrorists doesn't make their actions any different than any extremist religious group. Timothy McVay wasn't Muslim, most of these lone gunman nuts have been white males.

So no, not all terrorists are Muslim, although the media likes to portray it as such.

Muslim shooter = entire religion guilty

Black shooter = entire race guilty

White shooter = mentally troubled lone wolf

As for an actual solution to terrorism here are a few ideas:

- Stop funding Saudi Arabia or any dictator who support terrorism
- Stop arming terrorists - we have consistently armed rebels (aka future terrorists) - we are the largest weapons dealer in the world
- Stop overthrowing governments for oil - we have been destabilizing the middle-east for 50+ years to get access to oil
- Stop killing innocent civilians - in the middle east Americans are the "bad guys"
- Start educating women in the middle-east - much cheaper and more effective than dropping bombs
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1657 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:07 am

EricAnderson wrote:Here comes the deflection again..

But white people do it lets talk about them because I dislike them more then Muslims

Most of these sociopaths who are white and do it aren't doing it in the name of a religion



Your another weak one who has no real points. Who gives a **** about religion? It does not change any fact about what a terrorist REALLY is.
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Post#1658 » by CJackson » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:13 am

IllmaticHandler wrote:
EricAnderson wrote:Here comes the deflection again..

But white people do it lets talk about them because I dislike them more then Muslims

Most of these sociopaths who are white and do it aren't doing it in the name of a religion



Your another weak one who has no real points. Who gives a **** about religion? It does not change any fact about what a terrorist REALLY is.


These morons love dragging religion into it as if jihadis represent over a billion peaceful muslims. They are too damn stupid to get it thru their thick bigoted heads that jihadis are not spiritual people, they are psychotic and you cannot eradicate psychosis with genocide which is what many of the hurt little white boys are advocating. they want to round up muslims and carpet bomb them. that is what is in their hearts and they slip up and show their true colors over and over again
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Post#1660 » by EricAnderson » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:17 am

CharlesOakley wrote:
G I N T wrote:
CharlesOakley wrote:
Since you are an expert in interpreting religious texts you know that the Bible has been used to support everything from slavery to genocide to homophobia. The are plenty of extremist groups from all religions. I know the media has boiled down the problem of terrorism to the stunningly simple "Islam = bad" so that simpletons can pretend they understand how something like this can come to exist.

What you fail to recognize is that Islam exists all over the world and in many progressive societies. Yet the lions share of Islamic terrorism comes from one region of the world. It just so happens that the middle east has a collection of violent dictators and oppressive regimes which breed this sort of thing.

As for the role the US has in all of this, we funded the Taliban and Al-Queda (or the mujahideen which became these groups). We also had a major role in the creation of ISIS through our work in Syria. It has also been our unwavering support of Israel over Palestine, regardless of human rights violations, that put a target on our back.

ISIS members don't go around wearing t-shirts that say "ISIS member". Trump's master plan is to bomb the region until somehow ISIS unravels. This mean collateral damage, the death of many innocent, non-violent muslims which will lead to even more terrorists. That "plan" has literally never worked and is the reason for ISIS in the first place.

What could possibly go wrong?

So what? The only terrorists are all Muslim, so your point about other religious texts mean nothing. I never said "Islam = bad" but rather that "all terrorists = Muslim" which is the simple truth. It's an Islamic problem and anyone who continues to bury their head in the sand and deny it simply doesn't deserve respect.

9/11 hijackers = Muslim, Taliban = Muslim, San Bernardino nuts = Muslim, Fort Hood shooter = Muslim, Paris attack terrorists = Muslim, Pulse nightclub shooter = Muslim, ISIS = Muslim.

The loons chant "Allahu Ahkbar" every time they commit these massacres, and that is a phrase that only Muslims use. So yes, plain and simple, it is a problem with Islam and nothing more.

No, there are no "extremist groups of all religions." What could you possibly point to today that even compares to fanatical Islam? Nothing compares.

And if you have any better ideas other than bombing them to extinction, everyone is all ears. Fact is, Trump's proposed policies definitely make more sense than those of dummies like Clinton and Obama.

What have either of these two done/said to warrant your trust in them to successfully defeat Islamic terrorism? They look like total failures to me.


If you only get your information from Fox News then you end up with a limited view of what is going on in the world. There are extremist Buddhist monks who have butchered whole villages in Myanmar. There are other violent extremist groups throughout India and south-east Asia. There are also extremist Hindus throughout India who violently attack both Muslims and Christians.

As for extremist Christians, whenever some abortion clinic is attacked, it isn't Muslims doing it. When a Black church was shot up recently it wasn't Muslims. There are Christian extremist groups throughout Africa that do things like mass beheadings in the name of Jesus. Just because we label Muslims as terrorists doesn't make their actions any different than any extremist religious group. Timothy McVay wasn't Muslim, most of these lone gunman nuts have been white males.

So no, not all terrorists are Muslim, although the media likes to portray it as such.

Muslim shooter = entire religion guilty

Black shooter = entire race guilty

White shooter = mentally troubled lone wolf

As for an actual solution to terrorism here are a few ideas:

- Stop funding Saudi Arabia or any dictator who support terrorism
- Stop arming terrorists - we have consistently armed rebels (aka future terrorists) - we are the largest weapons dealer in the world
- Stop overthrowing governments for oil - we have been destabilizing the middle-east for 50+ years to get access to oil
- Stop killing innocent civilians - in the middle east Americans are the "bad guys"
- Start educating women in the middle-east - much cheaper and more effective than dropping bombs


The number of people killing in the name of their religion worldwide the Muslims have a HUGE lead why must we ignore it just so people aren't offended?

Are we so pc now that we must ignore stats and trying to be safe because of hurt feelings?

F that I'd rather be called an ignorant person and be alive then have my head in the sand and get killed because I'm worried about liberals calling me islamaphobic !

Nobody is saying all Muslims are terrorists but if we cant even use proven stats and admit fundamental Islam has a bigger terror problem then other religions then you're a fool.

Reminds me of the feminist who wanted to prove that Muslims are peaceful and treat women good and it was all a media creation and she ended up getting raped

http://www.yesimright.com/woman-hitchhiked-through-the-middle-east-to-prove-muslims-are-peaceful-what-they-did-next-omg/

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