2020 Presidential Election Thread: IT'S THE FINAL (vote) COUNTDOWN! [update pg 61: Joe Biden elected 46th POTUS]

[HarthorneWingo]

There’s going to be a lot of internal rancor in the GOP over Trump’s refusal to concede the election going into those Georgia runoffs.

[Clyde_Style]

Oh I see, now I know why they've been saying the media doesn't call the election

They're just parroting Trump as usual..

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Also, this moron doesn't understand that theres around 30 million more people in the US since Obama ran, AND not factoring in the '**** Donald Trump, anyone but him' crowd that knew they needed to turn up in massive numbers to ensure Trump **** off.

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Little Donald uses the term "lame stream media" like 10 year old having a temper tantrum. It's not difficult to imaging the type of brat he was (and still is).

Trump has always been an azzhole

When Trump was born, the doctor's said "Mr. and Mrs. Trump, congratulations on your new azzhole."
Fred said, "but I already have an azzhole."
The doctor replied, "well now you have a spare."

[GONYK]

I accept the thesis that Trump generated voters who may go back into the mothballs after this election. And hatred of Trump can also account for some of Biden's support, for sure.

Right, and I think we're all trying to figure out now what that means. E.g. does the trump thing become a permanent part of policy or die with him, or are there now two factions in the party (esp prevalent the more deep into rural areas you go)? For my work, a big question is how much they'll need to play the tough law-and-order empty rhetoric and translate that into policy; pre-trump republicans had sort of gone away from that but still kept it close by, but he really drew the lines clearly around cops-military-business as good guys and everyone else as bad.

PA is like a bizarro version of NY state, in that Philly gets top billing but isn't big enough to dominate the state legislature and voting patterns. The NYC area gets to set the tone and the rest of the state has to react, while the opposite is true down here (even when you factor Pittsburgh in). The rural/deep suburban areas call the shots in this weird state.

PA sure has their share of rednecks

We're all wondering what the GOP will morph into now. Some in the party are doing a happy dance that Trump is gone, but they are still obviously going to be concerned with how to retain his supporters or to at least not piss them off. On a national level, I see a guy like Mitt Romney licking his chops, but I'm not so sure it is going to go the way he wants it to.

I suspect the protect your guns and ammo meme may get doubled down on as a continued vote getter

Truth is the GOP is better at identifying single issue hot buttons and segmenting their message to pull in those voters

Does that mean anti-abortion, gun rights and anti-immigration will continue to stitch together party participation from single issue voters? I don't know the answer to that, but since many people are fine with leaving Roe vs. Wade intact and want more gun controls it is possible the GOP will need a new approach, not just the Democrats

I have a few Never Trump friends who believe that the one benefit of Trump is ushering in a more populist multi-racial GOP.

I'm skeptical. I think Trump's legacy for the GOP will be having showed them how to exploit people's ignorance without having to fundamentally change anything.

[Clyde_Style]

Right, and I think we're all trying to figure out now what that means. E.g. does the trump thing become a permanent part of policy or die with him, or are there now two factions in the party (esp prevalent the more deep into rural areas you go)? For my work, a big question is how much they'll need to play the tough law-and-order empty rhetoric and translate that into policy; pre-trump republicans had sort of gone away from that but still kept it close by, but he really drew the lines clearly around cops-military-business as good guys and everyone else as bad.

PA is like a bizarro version of NY state, in that Philly gets top billing but isn't big enough to dominate the state legislature and voting patterns. The NYC area gets to set the tone and the rest of the state has to react, while the opposite is true down here (even when you factor Pittsburgh in). The rural/deep suburban areas call the shots in this weird state.

PA sure has their share of rednecks

We're all wondering what the GOP will morph into now. Some in the party are doing a happy dance that Trump is gone, but they are still obviously going to be concerned with how to retain his supporters or to at least not piss them off. On a national level, I see a guy like Mitt Romney licking his chops, but I'm not so sure it is going to go the way he wants it to.

I suspect the protect your guns and ammo meme may get doubled down on as a continued vote getter

Truth is the GOP is better at identifying single issue hot buttons and segmenting their message to pull in those voters

Does that mean anti-abortion, gun rights and anti-immigration will continue to stitch together party participation from single issue voters? I don't know the answer to that, but since many people are fine with leaving Roe vs. Wade intact and want more gun controls it is possible the GOP will need a new approach, not just the Democrats

I have a few Never Trump friends who believe that the one benefit of Trump is ushering in a more populist multi-racial GOP.

I'm skeptical. I think Trump's legacy for the GOP will be having showed them how to exploit people's ignorance without having to fundamentally change anything.

I know Joe got blowback for saying if you're a Republican you ain't black, but I nodded my head in agreement while knowing it was a politically dicey thing to say

I think black Republicans will remain few in influence and I still think they will cotinue to be tokenized by the GOP leadership. They will cede the black vote and focus elsewhere.

Mostly, I see them leaning hard into church-going latinos to expand their ethnic reach. Any enthnicity that can linked to highly traditional social values they will attempt to absorb into the borg.

So I can see some expansion for the GOP possible, because party identity is something that matters more to some people than their origins.

Do I believe it would be a genuine thing? Nah. It is still going to be a party of racism for a good long time. But that doesn't mean it couldn't work. You can turn people of different backgrounds against each other. People have tried to pit the jews vs. blacks in the past and latino vs. black will be their move is my guess

[Oscirus]

PA sure has their share of rednecks

We're all wondering what the GOP will morph into now. Some in the party are doing a happy dance that Trump is gone, but they are still obviously going to be concerned with how to retain his supporters or to at least not piss them off. On a national level, I see a guy like Mitt Romney licking his chops, but I'm not so sure it is going to go the way he wants it to.

I suspect the protect your guns and ammo meme may get doubled down on as a continued vote getter

Truth is the GOP is better at identifying single issue hot buttons and segmenting their message to pull in those voters

Does that mean anti-abortion, gun rights and anti-immigration will continue to stitch together party participation from single issue voters? I don't know the answer to that, but since many people are fine with leaving Roe vs. Wade intact and want more gun controls it is possible the GOP will need a new approach, not just the Democrats

I have a few Never Trump friends who believe that the one benefit of Trump is ushering in a more populist multi-racial GOP.

I'm skeptical. I think Trump's legacy for the GOP will be having showed them how to exploit people's ignorance without having to fundamentally change anything.

I know Joe got blowback for saying if you're a Republican you ain't black, but I nodded my head in agreement while knowing it was a politically dicey thing to say

I think black Republicans will remain few in influence and I still think they will cotinue to be tokenized by the GOP leadership. They will cede the black vote and focus elsewhere.

Mostly, I see them leaning hard into church-going latinos to expand their ethnic reach. Any enthnicity that can linked to highly traditional social values they will attempt to absorb into the borg.

So I can see some expansion for the GOP possible, because party identity is something that matters more to some people than their origins.

Do I believe it would be a genuine thing? Nah. It is still going to be a party of racism for a good long time. But that doesn't mean it couldn't work. You can turn people of different backgrounds against each other. People have tried to pit the jews vs. blacks in the past and latino vs. black will be their move is my guess

He aint say if you're a republican you aint black, he said if you vote for trump, you aint black. We honestly need more black republicans to keep the republicans honest. The problem now is that gop blacks tend to be sycophants who sell out their people and experiences to advance within the party.

[Clyde_Style]

I have a few Never Trump friends who believe that the one benefit of Trump is ushering in a more populist multi-racial GOP.

I'm skeptical. I think Trump's legacy for the GOP will be having showed them how to exploit people's ignorance without having to fundamentally change anything.

I know Joe got blowback for saying if you're a Republican you ain't black, but I nodded my head in agreement while knowing it was a politically dicey thing to say

I think black Republicans will remain few in influence and I still think they will cotinue to be tokenized by the GOP leadership. They will cede the black vote and focus elsewhere.

Mostly, I see them leaning hard into church-going latinos to expand their ethnic reach. Any enthnicity that can linked to highly traditional social values they will attempt to absorb into the borg.

So I can see some expansion for the GOP possible, because party identity is something that matters more to some people than their origins.

Do I believe it would be a genuine thing? Nah. It is still going to be a party of racism for a good long time. But that doesn't mean it couldn't work. You can turn people of different backgrounds against each other. People have tried to pit the jews vs. blacks in the past and latino vs. black will be their move is my guess

He aint say if you're a republican you aint black, he said if you vote for trump, you aint black. We honestly need more black republicans to keep the republicans honest. The problem now is that gop blacks tend to be sycophants who sell out their people and experiences to advance within the party.

Your Sentence # 3 just said beat it pal! to your Sentence # 2

[omerome]

So if the resident and his base refuse to concede because of their claims of fraud, does that mean they also reject the House and Senate GOP members wins in the election?

[Pointgod]

Right, and I think we're all trying to figure out now what that means. E.g. does the trump thing become a permanent part of policy or die with him, or are there now two factions in the party (esp prevalent the more deep into rural areas you go)? For my work, a big question is how much they'll need to play the tough law-and-order empty rhetoric and translate that into policy; pre-trump republicans had sort of gone away from that but still kept it close by, but he really drew the lines clearly around cops-military-business as good guys and everyone else as bad.

PA is like a bizarro version of NY state, in that Philly gets top billing but isn't big enough to dominate the state legislature and voting patterns. The NYC area gets to set the tone and the rest of the state has to react, while the opposite is true down here (even when you factor Pittsburgh in). The rural/deep suburban areas call the shots in this weird state.

PA sure has their share of rednecks

We're all wondering what the GOP will morph into now. Some in the party are doing a happy dance that Trump is gone, but they are still obviously going to be concerned with how to retain his supporters or to at least not piss them off. On a national level, I see a guy like Mitt Romney licking his chops, but I'm not so sure it is going to go the way he wants it to.

I suspect the protect your guns and ammo meme may get doubled down on as a continued vote getter

Truth is the GOP is better at identifying single issue hot buttons and segmenting their message to pull in those voters

Does that mean anti-abortion, gun rights and anti-immigration will continue to stitch together party participation from single issue voters? I don't know the answer to that, but since many people are fine with leaving Roe vs. Wade intact and want more gun controls it is possible the GOP will need a new approach, not just the Democrats

I have a few Never Trump friends who believe that the one benefit of Trump is ushering in a more populist multi-racial GOP.

I'm skeptical. I think Trump's legacy for the GOP will be having showed them how to exploit people's ignorance without having to fundamentally change anything.

Hahaha weren’t they supposed to do that in 2008 after they got whipped by Obama? They got rid of the one guy (black guy of course) who could have helped them and instead doubled down on racism, anger and resentment without even offering a different policy platform from other Republicans. Trust me there are going to be a whole bunch of mini Trumps. We already have jackasses like Tes Cruz and Lindsey Graham going on tv lying. You have legit QAnon believers in Congress. No the GOP will just again double down on racism, division and anger. And why should they change anything? They didn’t pay a price for betraying the country during impeachment, they didn’t pay a price for stealing multiple Supreme Court seats and lying, they won seats in the House and have a good chance of keeping the Senate. They’ll continue to gerrymander and suppress votes to retain power. There’s no going back for them. The only question remaining is whether or not Trumpism can generate the same results without the cult leader at the top.

[Clyde_Style]

So if the resident and his base refuse to concede because of their claims of fraud, does that mean they also reject the House and Senate GOP members wins in the election?

[Oscirus]

I know Joe got blowback for saying if you're a Republican you ain't black, but I nodded my head in agreement while knowing it was a politically dicey thing to say

I think black Republicans will remain few in influence and I still think they will cotinue to be tokenized by the GOP leadership. They will cede the black vote and focus elsewhere.

Mostly, I see them leaning hard into church-going latinos to expand their ethnic reach. Any enthnicity that can linked to highly traditional social values they will attempt to absorb into the borg.

So I can see some expansion for the GOP possible, because party identity is something that matters more to some people than their origins.

Do I believe it would be a genuine thing? Nah. It is still going to be a party of racism for a good long time. But that doesn't mean it couldn't work. You can turn people of different backgrounds against each other. People have tried to pit the jews vs. blacks in the past and latino vs. black will be their move is my guess

He aint say if you're a republican you aint black, he said if you vote for trump, you aint black. We honestly need more black republicans to keep the republicans honest. The problem now is that gop blacks tend to be sycophants who sell out their people and experiences to advance within the party.

Your Sentence # 3 just said beat it pal! to your Sentence # 2

More like saying that the current ones need to do better either that or the ones in the future that join need to be better.

[Oscirus]

So if the resident and his base refuse to concede because of their claims of fraud, does that mean they also reject the House and Senate GOP members wins in the election?

Well no because dems are so incompetent they'd only rig it for president while leaving the down ballot races the same as a way of kneecapping their guy. Brilliant!

[Clyde_Style]

He aint say if you're a republican you aint black, he said if you vote for trump, you aint black. We honestly need more black republicans to keep the republicans honest. The problem now is that gop blacks tend to be sycophants who sell out their people and experiences to advance within the party.

Your Sentence # 3 just said beat it pal! to your Sentence # 2

More like saying that the current ones need to do better either that or the ones in the future that join need to be better.

Your order is ready sir:

[Clyde_Style]

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I'm shocked, I tell you! Utterly, gobsmackingly shocked!

[Clyde_Style]

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[BKlutch]

I just want full decriminalization. And stores. And for NYC to have Amsterdam style coffee shops. That’s all I ask

It's so strange AZ did it before NY....

I know and it’s because of the idiots here on Trump (Long) Island where I live. That’s what ruined it. We need to put it to a referendum in order to get it done.

I started answering this post 3 hours ago. But correlation does not equal causation.

[Clyde_Style]

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[BKlutch]

Things have to start being questioned. Like for example lets move off progressive policies. According to polls, people are for gun control, yet openly anti gun-control politicians have yet to have suffered the consequences of this. Even if you're arguing that theres some fear mongering, there's still a disconnect

Ditto for judges, public supposedly overwhelmingly supported the next president selecting the next supreme court judge, yet the two most vocal perpetrators against this just got easily voted back into the senate. We really need to start investigating this disconnect and finding out exactly how these polls are being disseminated.

I'll put alot of this blame onto the leadership, but even when I do so, there are other factors that cant be ignored.

This is the power of money and lobbyists.

[Clyde_Style]

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Go read the responses for some chuckles

[Clyde_Style]

Just saw a good point

Trump is still using his fundraising ability to get MAGAs to give him money to challenge the election in courts

Well, we know how that's going and he sure ain't splurging on high-powered legal firms to do it

so basically, once again, Trump is pilfering fundraising monies and lining his pocket

When his tweets about cheating subside will probably correlate with this money source drying up

I hope Polk and Ballsac sent in their contributions while they can

[Pointgod]

There’s going to be a lot of internal rancor in the GOP over Trump’s refusal to concede the election going into those Georgia runoffs.

I look forward to Trump absolutely torpedoing those two Senate races for the GOP. You know he’s going to sulk and be a complete bitch.