Trades and Transactions Ideas Thread

[HarthorneWingo]

bogs for brogdon?

Makes sense…

Bogs for Brogs! Yup, kinda makes sense phonetically.

[sol537]

Bogs for Brogdon
Lock up OG, iHart, Precious and Burks
Extend Brunson and Randle
Bring over Rokas
Draft 2-3 3&D guys

Let’s get to work…

[HarthorneWingo]

Bogs for Brogdon
Lock up OG, iHart, Precious and Burks
Extend Brunson and Randle
Bring over Rokas
Draft 2-3 3&D guys

Let’s get to work…

Even Moocow agrees.



(Obviously not Moocow. Only a two-word response.)

[sol537]

Bogs for Brogdon
Lock up OG, iHart, Precious and Burks
Extend Brunson and Randle
Bring over Rokas
Draft 2-3 3&D guys

Let’s get to work…

Even Moocow agrees.



(Obviously not Moocow. Only a two-word response.)

Picks in tact... can do a consolidation blockbuster trade at the trade deadline (Feb '25) if something makes sense then. Otherwise, keep building chemistry and immaculate vibes.

My main concern with Brogdon is that well run teams keep dumping him... (Boston, Milwaukee, Indiana...)

[HarthorneWingo]

Bogs for Brogdon
Lock up OG, iHart, Precious and Burks
Extend Brunson and Randle
Bring over Rokas
Draft 2-3 3&D guys

Let’s get to work…

Even Moocow agrees.



(Obviously not Moocow. Only a two-word response.)

Picks in tact... can do a consolidation blockbuster trade at the trade deadline (Feb '25) if something makes sense then. Otherwise, keep building chemistry and immaculate vibes.

My main concern with Brogdon is that well run teams keep dumping him... (Boston, Milwaukee, Indiana...)

Maybe it’s him being a bit injury prone?

[Richard4444]

Bogs for Brogdon
Lock up OG, iHart, Precious and Burks
Extend Brunson and Randle
Bring over Rokas
Draft 2-3 3&D guys

Let’s get to work…

Even Moocow agrees.



(Obviously not Moocow. Only a two-word response.)

Picks in tact... can do a consolidation blockbuster trade at the trade deadline (Feb '25) if something makes sense then. Otherwise, keep building chemistry and immaculate vibes.

My main concern with Brogdon is that well run teams keep dumping him... (Boston, Milwaukee, Indiana...)

Maybe we can not trade Randle depending on the date he extends.

[HarthorneWingo]

Even Moocow agrees.



(Obviously not Moocow. Only a two-word response.)

Picks in tact... can do a consolidation blockbuster trade at the trade deadline (Feb '25) if something makes sense then. Otherwise, keep building chemistry and immaculate vibes.

My main concern with Brogdon is that well run teams keep dumping him... (Boston, Milwaukee, Indiana...)

Maybe we can not trade Randle depending on the date he extends.

I don’t want to trade Randle.

[HopelessKnick]

Is there any plausible scenario where Randle comes back to CAA just to be traded a couple months later in the offseason? Makes no sense to me. Randle wants to remain in NY and last season he completely adjusted his play to what the Knicks demand of him (attacking basketball and cutting out most of the nonsense midrange game). The way he was playing he is actually a very good 2nd option next to Brunson. He is probably a top 5 PF in the league but definitely a top 8 PF.

I think you guys are wasting energy unnecessarily thinking of Randle trade scenarios. I think for the Knicks to consider a deal it would have to be a no-brainer/steal type of deal which is they can't reject. Randle will be a knick next season. There is only one team that may be able to beat a healthy knick squad in the east and that is Boston. There isn't going to be a major shake up. At most they'll be looking at converting the Bogs deal along with picks for another wing player.

Mark my words--On opening day the Knick squad will include Brunson, Hart, DD, OG, Randle for sure and most certainly also Deuce, Ihart, Mitch and Precious. This team has everything. Like I said, I myself am someone calling for trades/changes regularly in the past but this team is a 60 win team and is gonna fight Boston for the 1st seed in the east. They aren't going to break that up easily and neither should they.

[rajajackal]

Is there any plausible scenario where Randle comes back to CAA just to be traded a couple months later in the offseason? Makes no sense to me. Randle wants to remain in NY and last season he completely adjusted his play to what the Knicks demand of him (attacking basketball and cutting out most of the nonsense midrange game). The way he was playing he is actually a very good 2nd option next to Brunson. He is probably a top 5 PF in the league but definitely a top 8 PF.

I think you guys are wasting energy unnecessarily thinking of Randle trade scenarios. I think for the Knicks to consider a deal it would have to be a no-brainer/steal type of deal which is they can't reject. Randle will be a knick next season. There is only one team that may be able to beat a healthy knick squad in the east and that is Boston. There isn't going to be a major shake up. At most they'll be looking at converting the Bogs deal along with picks for another wing player.

Mark my words--On opening day the Knick squad will include Brunson, Hart, DD, OG, Randle for sure and most certainly also Deuce, Ihart, Mitch and Precious. This team has everything. Like I said, I myself am someone calling for trades/changes regularly in the past but this team is a 60 win team and is gonna fight Boston for the 1st seed in the east. They aren't going to break that up easily and neither should they.

are there any true pfs other than giannis and AD one could call better than him at the position?

[HopelessKnick]

Is there any plausible scenario where Randle comes back to CAA just to be traded a couple months later in the offseason? Makes no sense to me. Randle wants to remain in NY and last season he completely adjusted his play to what the Knicks demand of him (attacking basketball and cutting out most of the nonsense midrange game). The way he was playing he is actually a very good 2nd option next to Brunson. He is probably a top 5 PF in the league but definitely a top 8 PF.

I think you guys are wasting energy unnecessarily thinking of Randle trade scenarios. I think for the Knicks to consider a deal it would have to be a no-brainer/steal type of deal which is they can't reject. Randle will be a knick next season. There is only one team that may be able to beat a healthy knick squad in the east and that is Boston. There isn't going to be a major shake up. At most they'll be looking at converting the Bogs deal along with picks for another wing player.

Mark my words--On opening day the Knick squad will include Brunson, Hart, DD, OG, Randle for sure and most certainly also Deuce, Ihart, Mitch and Precious. This team has everything. Like I said, I myself am someone calling for trades/changes regularly in the past but this team is a 60 win team and is gonna fight Boston for the 1st seed in the east. They aren't going to break that up easily and neither should they.

are there any true pfs other than giannis and AD one could call better than him at the position?

Really depends on your definition of PF and who you include in that conversation. Giannis, AD and then I would take Bam above Randle as well due to his defensive prowess. Then you have guys like KAT and Siakam and Banchero as well. I think between KAT and Randle it is close to a wash. Some may prefer Siakam due to defense. Zion is probably better in a vaccuum if he plays but I guess due to injuries you have to exclude him. You also have Jaren Jackson jr.---but again it depends on what he is on your list. For me he is more of a 5 but some may view him as a 4. Some may prefer Markannen due to shooting and off ball ability. Sabonis played the 4 in Indiana but I guess he is a 5 in Sacto and plays more like a Center also so I don't consider him in that conversation anymore. To me the current top 8 thus are:
1. Giannis
2. AD
3. Bam
4.-8. in no particular order KAT, Siakam, Randle, Markannen, Banchero

But even if you take the broadest definition of a 4 and include all possible guys, Randle is still top 10 anyways.

[rajajackal]

Is there any plausible scenario where Randle comes back to CAA just to be traded a couple months later in the offseason? Makes no sense to me. Randle wants to remain in NY and last season he completely adjusted his play to what the Knicks demand of him (attacking basketball and cutting out most of the nonsense midrange game). The way he was playing he is actually a very good 2nd option next to Brunson. He is probably a top 5 PF in the league but definitely a top 8 PF.

I think you guys are wasting energy unnecessarily thinking of Randle trade scenarios. I think for the Knicks to consider a deal it would have to be a no-brainer/steal type of deal which is they can't reject. Randle will be a knick next season. There is only one team that may be able to beat a healthy knick squad in the east and that is Boston. There isn't going to be a major shake up. At most they'll be looking at converting the Bogs deal along with picks for another wing player.

Mark my words--On opening day the Knick squad will include Brunson, Hart, DD, OG, Randle for sure and most certainly also Deuce, Ihart, Mitch and Precious. This team has everything. Like I said, I myself am someone calling for trades/changes regularly in the past but this team is a 60 win team and is gonna fight Boston for the 1st seed in the east. They aren't going to break that up easily and neither should they.

are there any true pfs other than giannis and AD one could call better than him at the position?

Really depends on your definition of PF and who you include in that conversation. Giannis, AD and then I would take Bam above Randle as well due to his defensive prowess. Then you have guys like KAT and Siakam and Banchero as well. I think between KAT and Randle it is close to a wash. Some may prefer Siakam due to defense. Zion is probably better in a vaccuum if he plays but I guess due to injuries you have to exclude him. You also have Jaren Jackson jr.---but again it depends on what he is on your list. For me he is more of a 5 but some may view him as a 4. Some may prefer Markannen due to shooting and off ball ability. Sabonis played the 4 in Indiana but I guess he is a 5 in Sacto and plays more like a Center also so I don't consider him in that conversation anymore. To me the current top 8 thus are:
1. Giannis
2. AD
3. Bam
4.-8. in no particular order KAT, Siakam, Randle, Markannen, Banchero

But even if you take the broadest definition of a 4 and include all possible guys, Randle is still top 10 anyways.

i consider KAT a center playing the 4 just like i consider tatum a small forward playing the 4. i think randle is better than siakam, zion, and markannen

[KnixinSix]

Even Moocow agrees.



(Obviously not Moocow. Only a two-word response.)

Picks in tact... can do a consolidation blockbuster trade at the trade deadline (Feb '25) if something makes sense then. Otherwise, keep building chemistry and immaculate vibes.

My main concern with Brogdon is that well run teams keep dumping him... (Boston, Milwaukee, Indiana...)

Maybe we can not trade Randle depending on the date he extends.

Call me impatient but it certainly feels like many of our trade chips will lose value if we don't strike in the next month or so.


- 2 draft picks this year
- Bogs contract comes up for renewal or need to trade in a month

Combine that with what in theory should be an interesting offseason with numerous stars on underperforming teams and the new cba kicking in, it feels like NOW not later is the time to finally strike.

This team is very close if it can stay healthy. Make the trade for one of the younger , less injury prone players that come available.

Do NOT trade for the too old and/or too injury prone guys:

Embiid
PG13
Beal (definitely not!)

Guys I am iffy on but could be great here:
KAT- I am iffy on but depending on the trade it could make us better
AD- iffy bc of the injury history but man would he be a beast on this team if healthy.
Durant - I am iffy on due to age/ injury history but he could be great here for 1 year or 2 potentially

Guys on the definitely trade for list:

Giannis - by far #1 option, young ish, not too too injury prone, elite 2 way O and D player.
Mikal Bridges- perfect Thibs fit. Not elite offensively but better than OG. Cheap contract too. Keep Randle and team would be loaded.
Donovan Mitchell- young, tough and is a combo guard who has decent defensive potential in Thibs system despite not having ideal height at 6'3. Still long arms, high BB IQ and would take pressure off Brunson.
Booker- ideal 2 guard for this system with height and can ballhandle a bit too

[KnixinSix]

Is there any plausible scenario where Randle comes back to CAA just to be traded a couple months later in the offseason? Makes no sense to me. Randle wants to remain in NY and last season he completely adjusted his play to what the Knicks demand of him (attacking basketball and cutting out most of the nonsense midrange game). The way he was playing he is actually a very good 2nd option next to Brunson. He is probably a top 5 PF in the league but definitely a top 8 PF.

I think you guys are wasting energy unnecessarily thinking of Randle trade scenarios. I think for the Knicks to consider a deal it would have to be a no-brainer/steal type of deal which is they can't reject. Randle will be a knick next season. There is only one team that may be able to beat a healthy knick squad in the east and that is Boston. There isn't going to be a major shake up. At most they'll be looking at converting the Bogs deal along with picks for another wing player.

Mark my words--On opening day the Knick squad will include Brunson, Hart, DD, OG, Randle for sure and most certainly also Deuce, Ihart, Mitch and Precious. This team has everything. Like I said, I myself am someone calling for trades/changes regularly in the past but this team is a 60 win team and is gonna fight Boston for the 1st seed in the east. They aren't going to break that up easily and neither should they.

I think unless the superstar frontcourt guy comes available he stays.

[KnicksGadfly]

Is there any plausible scenario where Randle comes back to CAA just to be traded a couple months later in the offseason? Makes no sense to me. Randle wants to remain in NY and last season he completely adjusted his play to what the Knicks demand of him (attacking basketball and cutting out most of the nonsense midrange game). The way he was playing he is actually a very good 2nd option next to Brunson. He is probably a top 5 PF in the league but definitely a top 8 PF.

I think you guys are wasting energy unnecessarily thinking of Randle trade scenarios. I think for the Knicks to consider a deal it would have to be a no-brainer/steal type of deal which is they can't reject. Randle will be a knick next season. There is only one team that may be able to beat a healthy knick squad in the east and that is Boston. There isn't going to be a major shake up. At most they'll be looking at converting the Bogs deal along with picks for another wing player.

Mark my words--On opening day the Knick squad will include Brunson, Hart, DD, OG, Randle for sure and most certainly also Deuce, Ihart, Mitch and Precious. This team has everything. Like I said, I myself am someone calling for trades/changes regularly in the past but this team is a 60 win team and is gonna fight Boston for the 1st seed in the east. They aren't going to break that up easily and neither should they.

are there any true pfs other than giannis and AD one could call better than him at the position?

Really depends on your definition of PF and who you include in that conversation. Giannis, AD and then I would take Bam above Randle as well due to his defensive prowess. Then you have guys like KAT and Siakam and Banchero as well. I think between KAT and Randle it is close to a wash. Some may prefer Siakam due to defense. Zion is probably better in a vaccuum if he plays but I guess due to injuries you have to exclude him. You also have Jaren Jackson jr.---but again it depends on what he is on your list. For me he is more of a 5 but some may view him as a 4. Some may prefer Markannen due to shooting and off ball ability. Sabonis played the 4 in Indiana but I guess he is a 5 in Sacto and plays more like a Center also so I don't consider him in that conversation anymore. To me the current top 8 thus are:
1. Giannis
2. AD
3. Bam
4.-8. in no particular order KAT, Siakam, Randle, Markannen, Banchero

But even if you take the broadest definition of a 4 and include all possible guys, Randle is still top 10 anyways.

I think top 10 is not really the cut-off point. The question is always, can we win a championship? I think Randle is a question mark - he hasn’t really answered many of the doubts. Doesn’t mean the Knicks can’t re-sign him or give him a shot, but it does mean they need to avoid any move that closes all other doors. That’s a quick way to the treadmill.

I think the PF position is weak enough in this league that we should also be looking into small forwards.

[GONYK]

Is there any plausible scenario where Randle comes back to CAA just to be traded a couple months later in the offseason? Makes no sense to me. Randle wants to remain in NY and last season he completely adjusted his play to what the Knicks demand of him (attacking basketball and cutting out most of the nonsense midrange game). The way he was playing he is actually a very good 2nd option next to Brunson. He is probably a top 5 PF in the league but definitely a top 8 PF.

I think you guys are wasting energy unnecessarily thinking of Randle trade scenarios. I think for the Knicks to consider a deal it would have to be a no-brainer/steal type of deal which is they can't reject. Randle will be a knick next season. There is only one team that may be able to beat a healthy knick squad in the east and that is Boston. There isn't going to be a major shake up. At most they'll be looking at converting the Bogs deal along with picks for another wing player.

Mark my words--On opening day the Knick squad will include Brunson, Hart, DD, OG, Randle for sure and most certainly also Deuce, Ihart, Mitch and Precious. This team has everything. Like I said, I myself am someone calling for trades/changes regularly in the past but this team is a 60 win team and is gonna fight Boston for the 1st seed in the east. They aren't going to break that up easily and neither should they.

I think unless the superstar frontcourt guy comes available he stays.

Yea, he's not being moved unless it is for a clear upgrade. The FO won't just move him to break up his salary or for someone inferior like Bridges.

[HopelessKnick]

are there any true pfs other than giannis and AD one could call better than him at the position?

Really depends on your definition of PF and who you include in that conversation. Giannis, AD and then I would take Bam above Randle as well due to his defensive prowess. Then you have guys like KAT and Siakam and Banchero as well. I think between KAT and Randle it is close to a wash. Some may prefer Siakam due to defense. Zion is probably better in a vaccuum if he plays but I guess due to injuries you have to exclude him. You also have Jaren Jackson jr.---but again it depends on what he is on your list. For me he is more of a 5 but some may view him as a 4. Some may prefer Markannen due to shooting and off ball ability. Sabonis played the 4 in Indiana but I guess he is a 5 in Sacto and plays more like a Center also so I don't consider him in that conversation anymore. To me the current top 8 thus are:
1. Giannis
2. AD
3. Bam
4.-8. in no particular order KAT, Siakam, Randle, Markannen, Banchero

But even if you take the broadest definition of a 4 and include all possible guys, Randle is still top 10 anyways.

I think top 10 is not really the cut-off point. The question is always, can we win a championship? I think Randle is a question mark - he hasn’t really answered many of the doubts. Doesn’t mean the Knicks can’t re-sign him or give him a shot, but it does mean they need to avoid any move that closes all other doors. That’s a quick way to the treadmill.

I think the PF position is weak enough in this league that we should also be looking into small forwards.

It is a question of what your definition of treadmill is. Even if Randle remains good in the regular season and mediocre in the playoffs, this team will continue winning 55-60 regular season games and be a constant ECF/Finals threat. As long as our main guys stay healthy. Now if Randle's regular season play translates into playoffs then the Knicks are the team to beat. The size, defense and grit of this team with an elite PG and top PF---no team is gonna beat that in the playoffs. Heck even without Randle and with everybody else healthy I believe we could have already gone 6 or 7 against Boston. Now add a Randle and it is game over for Boston.

[aggo]

Everyone knows we need to trade Mitch

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[sol537]

Everyone knows we need to trade Mitch

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I'm fine with keeping him or trading him. There's a 50-50 chance he's not available for the playoffs which is quite the risk.

But I'd only trade him for a guy like Mikal or for one of New Orleans' wings... Tre Murphy or Herb Jones. Otherwise, stand Pat(rick Ewing)

1) Extend iHart, OG
2) Sign Precious, Burks to min deals
3) Bring over Rokas on lean deal
4) Use all three draft picks to fill out end of bench
5) Extend Brunson on team-friendly deal
6) Extend Randle on team-friendly deal
7) Extend Thibs for 4 years on fair deal

Opening Day Roster:

iHart / Mitch / Draftee
Randle / Hart / Precious
OG / Bogs / Draftee
DDV / Burks / Draftee
Brunson / McBride / Rokas

LFGK, 55-60 wins, ECF & Finals Berth, Immaculate Vibes

[HopelessKnick]

Everyone knows we need to trade Mitch

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Actually I disagree. At this stage he has had so many injuries that we'd never get anything close to a fair return----see the suggestion of Luke Kennard for Mitch. We need to keep him and load manage him heavily. Maybe he should consider dropping 15-20 pounds to limit stress on his feet.

I honestly think there has been a major silver lining this season with all the injuries. With the emergence of guys like Hartenstein, Precious, Deuce, Josh Hart, DD our team is so deep and loaded that even someone like Thibs understands that he has the luxury to closely load manage Mitch. Him and Hartenstein are great to have if healthy but both are injury prone. Hartenstein also has those chronic achilles injuries--keep that in mind. It is ideal to have both around and split minutes between them and limit the amount of games to 60. That way you can have enough minutes for Precious as well to keep everybody healthy. Neither Mitch nor Hartenstein are really suited to play 30+ minutes in the NBA regularly.

If Thibs draws the right conclusions from this season---as crazy as it may sound--- this season can potentially have been the perfect setup for multiple title runs in the next 3-4 years. Our role players are oozing with confidence.

[GONYK]

Everyone knows we need to trade Mitch

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Actually I disagree. At this stage he has had so many injuries that we'd never get anything close to a fair return----see the suggestion of Luke Kennard for Mitch. We need to keep him and load manage him heavily. Maybe he should consider dropping 15-20 pounds to limit stress on his feet.

I honestly think there has been a major silver lining this season with all the injuries. With the emergence of guys like Hartenstein, Precious, Deuce, Josh Hart, DD our team is so deep and loaded that even someone like Thibs understands that he has the luxury to closely load manage Mitch. Him and Hartenstein are great to have if healthy but both are injury prone. Hartenstein also has those chronic achilles injuries--keep that in mind. It is ideal to have both around and split minutes between them and limit the amount of games to 60. That way you can have enough minutes for Precious as well to keep everybody healthy. Neither Mitch nor Hartenstein are really suited to play 30+ minutes in the NBA regularly.

If Thibs draws the right conclusions from this season---as crazy as it may sound--- this season can potentially have been the perfect setup for multiple title runs in the next 3-4 years. Our role players are oozing with confidence.

Mitch was playing 25 MPG. Load management wasn't why he got injured.