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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1641 » by Loaded_Hollows » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:10 am

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This is the first BALLBOY I haven't told to STFU and GTFO!! :lol: WOMP WOOOOMP!

2016 joined so this is someones burner. Still they can STFU and GTFO!!
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Nah I am not a burner account. I just never had a desire to post and tend to lurk back in the day and now I dont care about sports as much being older and also realizing the joy is quite short lived compared to the disappointment.

The saddest and most poignant post I’ve seen :lol:
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1642 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:11 am

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Homelessness and crime were issues all over the country due to the pandemic. Crime has dipped back down to pre-pandemic levels. And the murder rate has plunged.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2024/06/10/us/us-violent-crime-rates-statistics



Also, the WSJ

https://www.wsj.com/us-news/violent-crime-rate-falls-sharply-after-pandemic-surge-c8059d4b


IDK, I associate Newsome with a lot of problems during the pandemic. would vote him over trump, but i dont think he galvanizes anyone


that guy is really good at staying on message but he needs a year or two to reshape his image and flip that car salesman/coastal elite vibe.


He can play the part but, not sure what his actual politics are. Where are the centrists?
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1643 » by Neutral 123 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:11 am

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If you think “rap songs” will be the reason black people will vote for this man to be President then you’re even more clueless than I already thought.

Please don't straw man what I'm saying. I'm saying that Trump didn't become a 'racist' until he ran for president. His history showed him as someone far more comfortable, social and willing to do business with black people than any other Dem and that includes Barack Obama lol.


Trump LITERALLY got his start in the presidential arena by stoking racist sentiment with the birther movement against Barack Obama!

He was the face of the tea party and the racists who said Obama was not an American citizen, and his birth certificate was foreign, (which was a blatant lie and the **** epitome of racism)

This is like Jan 6 the revisionist history, I’m so sick of right wingers trying to gaslight re-write history that we all saw with our own eyes.

What does that have to do with racism?
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1644 » by Neutral 123 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:12 am

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Do you seriously think that all of the people who are here undocumented have criminal backgrounds and are what you called "socialists"?

What evidence do you have for that? That's absurd.

Also, do you know where the America First ideal comes from?

It's literally American Neo Nazi propaganda

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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/America_First_Committee



Please tell us more about your views.

Don't straw man my position. I believe people should be vetted. You claim everyone has a right. So it is you who think Nazis have a right to come to America. I don't want national socialists in America. There are more than enough socialists here already.


I agree, people should be vetted. So why don't you support Biden's plan to shut down the border?

I don't think that nazis have a right to be in America. I simply accept the fact that they're already here, and have been for decades.

Yes, there are socialists of many variants in America sadly.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1645 » by Neutral 123 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:15 am

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Well, if people agree with white supremacy we’re in a bad place.

If we disagree on open borders we are in a worse place. This shaming tactic is not going to get reasonable people to support a dangerous policy. Open borders is far more dangerous than whatever amounts to white supremacy.


I think it’s kind of weird that illegal immigration is such an important issue to some people. Sure, let’s shore up the border, but it wouldn’t be in my top 10 concerns.

Weird huh? Well I guess we'll just have to disagree. I do support illegals being sent to sanctuary cities. They should be taken in by the people who want open borders. I think we can compromise on that at least.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1646 » by Neutral 123 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:20 am

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Lots to unpack here, but I will keep it brief.
a) this is circumventing rent laws, IMO there needs to be better action in place to protect renters particularly those on fixed income such as disability or retirement

b) yuppies simply mans young upper class. You make assumptions of how they got there. Could be their uncle is paying their way, it could be they have a good job, it could be generational wealth. It's not always going to be just the scrappy smart upstarts.

Judging by the totality of your post, I am assuming that you are pretty much just baiting here, so I don't think I need to respond to that last bit.

A) rent controls result in higher rent prices and often do it at the expense of the poor. In NYC wealthy people often end up in rent controlled buildings. People hang onto apartments for generations. Their discount is effectively subsidised by everyone else. A disgusting and unfair policy.

B) I have to address this generational wealth nonsense. What wealthy people pass on is the work ethic and skills to be successful. Any savings passed on to lazy, unskilled and irresponsible children will be eaten up very quickly. The ability to create your own wealth is what is truly generational.


These things can go hand in hand.
Renters are not the problem here, it's landowners. People who OWN the land, the building etc are sitting on appreciating assets. People who are renting are just that - renting. Spending money for borrowed time.
Rent control allows for landlords to collect rent and to beat inflation over time. It doesn't allow for them to maximize their earnings at the expense of a person just looking for stable housing.

I haven't blamed the renters. I am blaming the politicians who make things worse for both landlords and most renters. It wins votes and hurts everyone else. It sounds good, and sounds like they are doing something, but it doesn't work. It's simple, if you want lower rents, you must increase the supply. You increase the supply with less regulations, less waits for permits, less interference with third parties. The highest rents happen to be the places with the strictest rent controls. A coincidence? Of course not.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1647 » by aggo » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:22 am

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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1648 » by Neutral 123 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:22 am

MrDollarBills wrote:Also this is a nation of immigrants and the descendants of people who were either taken here against their will or colonizers. none of us belong here really aside from the Indigenous Americans. So who gets to really dictate who should be allowed to come here? Unless you're like a legit criminal that has done some horrible sh*t, I don't see a reason why anyone should be barred entry through legal means at this point. America isn't some homogenized country.

You've already said that EVERYONE, and everyone includes criminals have a RIGHT to be in the country. And anyone who supports illegal immigration supports there being NO VETTING process and WANTS criminals in the country. What do we disagree on here?
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1649 » by NYKat » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:31 am

Neutral 123 wrote:
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Neutral 123 wrote:Please don't straw man what I'm saying. I'm saying that Trump didn't become a 'racist' until he ran for president. His history showed him as someone far more comfortable, social and willing to do business with black people than any other Dem and that includes Barack Obama lol.


Trump LITERALLY got his start in the presidential arena by stoking racist sentiment with the birther movement against Barack Obama!

He was the face of the tea party and the racists who said Obama was not an American citizen, and his birth certificate was foreign, (which was a blatant lie and the **** epitome of racism)

This is like Jan 6 the revisionist history, I’m so sick of right wingers trying to gaslight re-write history that we all saw with our own eyes.

What does that have to do with racism?


Seriously? You’re either gaslighting or stupid, either way that makes up most of MAGA… I swear the Trump cult will be studied in history books like Hitler
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1650 » by wompwomp » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:35 am

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wompwomp wrote:
nykballa2k4 wrote:2016 joined so this is someones burner. Still they can STFU and GTFO!!
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Nah I am not a burner account. I just never had a desire to post and tend to lurk back in the day and now I dont care about sports as much being older and also realizing the joy is quite short lived compared to the disappointment.

The saddest and most poignant post I’ve seen :lol:


ha sadly its true. Yankees and baseball is my first love. I just started noticing how when they were winning chips back in the day, its felt good for like a few days but when my team loses, which is more often than not if you root for NY teams, it would linger for weeks and I can't even watch the rest of the playoffs or any team related till close to next season. I was like, this cant be it.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1651 » by Neutral 123 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:36 am

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How the **** do you turn people who are desperate away at the border? People in need. Helping them is good. Turning them away is not good. You are not a Christian. You are a fraud.

They are in want. They want a better life. They can get that by copying America's free market model under Christian morality, instead of voting for godless socialists and fleeing when their country turns to crap.

America can't be a model to the world if America is flooded with People who are not American. This shouldn't be hard to understand.

There's nothing in the good book that suggests being a pushover and coward. No is one of the most important words a Christian can master as we'll always be tempted by wicked things and wicked ideas.


Really now?

You shall also love the stranger, for you were strangers in the land of Egypt.
Deuteronomy 10:19

The alien who resides with you shall be to you as the citizen among you; you shall love the alien as yourself, for you were aliens in the land of Egypt: I am the Lord your God.
Leviticus 19:34

The Lord watches over the strangers; he upholds the orphan and the widow, but the way of the wicked he brings to ruin.
Psalm146:9

Lmao

Sigh... A sojourner is someone who stays TEMPORARILY. A FOREIGNER is not an American. They are to leave. Again, I support true asylum seeking and useful immigration. I do not support EVERYONE being free to come into the country like you've said. They need to be vetted. Men who kill women, sexually harm women and children are not welcome, and anyone who supports no system for vetting supports these types of people in the country. I'm not supporting that position.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1652 » by Pointgod » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:37 am

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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1653 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:38 am

wompwomp wrote:
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Nah I am not a burner account. I just never had a desire to post and tend to lurk back in the day and now I dont care about sports as much being older and also realizing the joy is quite short lived compared to the disappointment.

The saddest and most poignant post I’ve seen :lol:


ha sadly its true. Yankees and baseball is my first love. I just started noticing how when they were winning chips back in the day, its felt good for like a few days but when my team loses, which is more often than not if you root for NY teams, it would linger for weeks and I can't even watch the rest of the playoffs or any team related till close to next season. I was like, this cant be it.

Spoken like a true Jets fan. :lol:
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1654 » by Neutral 123 » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:38 am

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Trump LITERALLY got his start in the presidential arena by stoking racist sentiment with the birther movement against Barack Obama!

He was the face of the tea party and the racists who said Obama was not an American citizen, and his birth certificate was foreign, (which was a blatant lie and the **** epitome of racism)

This is like Jan 6 the revisionist history, I’m so sick of right wingers trying to gaslight re-write history that we all saw with our own eyes.

What does that have to do with racism?


Seriously? You’re either gaslighting or stupid, either way that makes up most of MAGA… I swear the Trump cult will be studied in history books like Hitler

It's racist to question where someone was born? Obama was raised in Indonesia and Hawaii with an African father. I believe Kendrick said it recently... They not like us. You can certainly argue it was silly, but I'm not with the idea that any criticism or questioning of a black person is racism.
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Post#1655 » by wompwomp » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:48 am

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Republicans are so much better at going back home when time comes no matter who it is. Meanwhile, democrats always do this purity test staying home and both side is the same BS and then the cycle continues of just holding the line in the next election cycle. .
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1656 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:49 am

Neutral 123 wrote:
NYKat wrote:
Neutral 123 wrote:Please don't straw man what I'm saying. I'm saying that Trump didn't become a 'racist' until he ran for president. His history showed him as someone far more comfortable, social and willing to do business with black people than any other Dem and that includes Barack Obama lol.


Trump LITERALLY got his start in the presidential arena by stoking racist sentiment with the birther movement against Barack Obama!

He was the face of the tea party and the racists who said Obama was not an American citizen, and his birth certificate was foreign, (which was a blatant lie and the **** epitome of racism)

This is like Jan 6 the revisionist history, I’m so sick of right wingers trying to gaslight re-write history that we all saw with our own eyes.

What does that have to do with racism?


His attacks on migrants as rapists, criminals and his hatred of Muslims.(unconstitutional Muslim ban).

Trump has been a fraud and a scoundrel entire his life. Didn’t you know that.
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Re: OT: Trump shot at Rally. 

Post#1657 » by HarthorneWingo » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:53 am

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IDK, I associate Newsome with a lot of problems during the pandemic. would vote him over trump, but i dont think he galvanizes anyone


that guy is really good at staying on message but he needs a year or two to reshape his image and flip that car salesman/coastal elite vibe.


He can play the part but, not sure what his actual politics are. Where are the centrists?


Newsom is fine domestically. (He’s the Governor of California, so how bad could he be?)

I’m not sure what his foreign policies are but they can’t be worse than Biden’s.
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Post#1658 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:55 am

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Fox News much?

Biden has been skewered in the press. I don't remember a president this criticized in the press since George W. Bush, but in the poles, Biden has gained.

People distrust Trump that much, and with good reason.

A lot of people are saying Trump is going to win, but so so so so so many people plan to vote against Trump. I don't see it. The Senate and house are harder to call . . . I don't even speculate about those, but I don't see Trump winning.


All of Trump's zealots were foaming at the mouth in October 2020 that Trump would crush Biden on election day. The result? Trump lost by 7 million votes. He has not picked up any support since then and he won't gain any with a mouse bite on his ear. His base has dug in its heels and gotten crazier, but that doesn't equal more votes.

Ignore them. They were so badly wrong before. Nothing they say now is fueled by logic, only anger and hate and that doesn't win an election.


Liberal base = https://x.com/libsoftiktok
LOL


You just linked to a known stochastic terrorist, but that's no surprise seeing how illiterate you are
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Post#1659 » by Clyde_Style » Wed Jul 17, 2024 2:58 am

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Haley is the worst kind of hypocrite.

She's a gutless whore like all of the other sycohphants who slurp Trump whenever their own play for power fails. JD Vance is another one. A party of whores.
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Post#1660 » by Jalen Bluntson » Wed Jul 17, 2024 3:01 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
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wompwomp wrote:
that guy is really good at staying on message but he needs a year or two to reshape his image and flip that car salesman/coastal elite vibe.


He can play the part but, not sure what his actual politics are. Where are the centrists?


Newsom is fine domestically. (He’s the Governor of California, so how bad could he be?)

I’m not sure what his foreign policies are but they can’t be worse than Biden’s.


California is a shyt show.
:beer: RIP mags

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