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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 8) Discussion Thread- Announcement on page 72 

Post#1641 » by NewEra » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:01 pm

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Mecca wrote:
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I known NewEra for almost 20 years now, we never made a trade together and never will :lol:

That’s fine. Acknowledgement is courtesy. Like I said, my offer to you sat in my outbox for weeks before I deleted it. If you don’t want me to send you offers at all in the future that’s cool with me. I have great relationships with every GM here and have done deals with just about all of them.


I love you newera, great guy, just not a trade partner

Understood. Honestly, whether you and I make a trade or not isn’t really my main concern. What I’m pointing to is your overall level of activity.

I just feel that if you were more engaged and consistently putting in the effort, you could’ve moved some of those contracts by now. I totally get that life gets busy with family, work, and everything. Believe me, I know! But the reality is, it seems like you’ve missed some opportunities simply because you didn’t put in the effort needed.

Can’t quit or just decide you’re gonna be inactive and expect success in this game. As a BAT/BaF vet you know that.
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Post#1642 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:01 pm

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2010 wrote:I’ll never understand GMs who leave people on read, refuse to counter or offer any perspective on why they decline a proposed deal, and largely fail to see value in a simple human element such as negotiating with candor and timeliness.


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we could probably update that GIF to say "richard" :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#1643 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:03 pm

Fat wrote:All these trades and the spurs keep winning it

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Post#1644 » by Capn'O » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:03 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
2010 wrote:I’ll never understand GMs who leave people on read, refuse to counter or offer any perspective on why they decline a proposed deal, and largely fail to see value in a simple human element such as negotiating with candor and timeliness.


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we could probably update that GIF to say "richard" :lol: :lol: :lol:


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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 8) Discussion Thread- Announcement on page 72 

Post#1645 » by Mecca » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:04 pm

NewEra wrote:
Mecca wrote:
NewEra wrote:That’s fine. Acknowledgement is courtesy. Like I said, my offer to you sat in my outbox for weeks before I deleted it. If you don’t want me to send you offers at all in the future that’s cool with me. I have great relationships with every GM here and have done deals with just about all of them.


I love you newera, great guy, just not a trade partner

Understood. Honestly, whether you and I make a trade or not isn’t really my main concern. What I’m pointing to is your overall level of activity.

I just feel that if you were more engaged and consistently putting in the effort, you could’ve moved some of those contracts by now. I totally get that life gets busy with family, work, and everything. Believe me, I know! But the reality is, it seems like you’ve missed some opportunities simply because you didn’t put in the effort needed.

Can’t quit or just decide you’re gonna be inactive and expect success in this game. As a BAT/BaF vet you know that.


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Post#1646 » by DOT » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:07 pm

Capn'O wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
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we could probably update that GIF to say "richard" :lol: :lol: :lol:


I think I'm also on his B list :lol:

I dunno what y'all are talking about, I pm'd him at 9:33 yesterday, he responded at 9:42

Guess that makes me on his A list lol
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Post#1647 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:09 pm

DOT wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:

we could probably update that GIF to say "richard" :lol: :lol: :lol:


I think I'm also on his B list :lol:

I dunno what y'all are talking about, I pm'd him at 9:33 yesterday, he responded at 9:42

Guess that makes me on his A list lol


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Post#1648 » by DOT » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:11 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
DOT wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
I think I'm also on his B list :lol:

I dunno what y'all are talking about, I pm'd him at 9:33 yesterday, he responded at 9:42

Guess that makes me on his A list lol


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To be fair all he said was "No"

So negotiations broke down rather quickly. It was very disheartening, really.
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Re: Build a Franchise (Season 8) Discussion Thread- Announcement on page 72 

Post#1649 » by Context » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:11 pm

NewEra wrote:
Mecca wrote:
NewEra wrote:That’s fine. Acknowledgement is courtesy. Like I said, my offer to you sat in my outbox for weeks before I deleted it. If you don’t want me to send you offers at all in the future that’s cool with me. I have great relationships with every GM here and have done deals with just about all of them.


I love you newera, great guy, just not a trade partner

Understood. Honestly, whether you and I make a trade or not isn’t really my main concern. What I’m pointing to is your overall level of activity.

I just feel that if you were more engaged and consistently putting in the effort, you could’ve moved some of those contracts by now. I totally get that life gets busy with family, work, and everything. Believe me, I know! But the reality is, it seems like you’ve missed some opportunities simply because you didn’t put in the effort needed.

Can’t quit or just decide you’re gonna be inactive and expect success in this game. As a BAT/BaF vet you know that.

this is why WE ALL love newera but Mecca, you didnt deserve this response :lol:
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Post#1650 » by Context » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:13 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
Capn'O wrote:
2010 wrote:I’ll never understand GMs who leave people on read, refuse to counter or offer any perspective on why they decline a proposed deal, and largely fail to see value in a simple human element such as negotiating with candor and timeliness.


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we could probably update that GIF to say "richard" :lol: :lol: :lol:

I think he has the record for most pm's Ive sent to a gm that I eventually had to delete :lol:
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Post#1651 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 5:16 pm

DOT wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
DOT wrote:I dunno what y'all are talking about, I pm'd him at 9:33 yesterday, he responded at 9:42

Guess that makes me on his A list lol


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To be fair all he said was "No"

So negotiations broke down rather quickly. It was very disheartening, really.


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Post#1652 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:00 pm

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Post#1653 » by 2010 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:27 pm

Bish rn (after 3pm in his inbox)

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Post#1654 » by bishnykfan » Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:35 pm

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Just getting home from work...give me a bit to catch up on the 10+ pages of discussion.
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Post#1655 » by mpharris36 » Thu Jun 19, 2025 7:39 pm

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Just getting home from work...give me a bit to catch up on the 10+ pages of discussion.


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I think it was actually some positive discourse.
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Post#1656 » by bishnykfan » Thu Jun 19, 2025 8:45 pm

Ok, couple of things before I start looking through PMs and updating transactions. First off, this rule proposal was not made by me. I don't disclose who submits rule proposals but I'm pretty confident, based on the discussion, it is clear who submitted this proposal. Next, for anyone who was not aware of the deadline for these proposals, it was put into announcements on May 22nd and June 8th.

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A few other items to think about as we approach the offseason. Please send in your vote for "Executive of the Year" via PM. All votes need to be sent in no later than June 1st. Start thinking about any rule change proposals as well. I will accept proposals from June 6-13.


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Any rule change proposals need to submitted to me no later than 6/13.


The deadline was also posted in the main thread in the upcoming schedule section for over a week. If people weren't aware of it, it is not through lack of notice. As far as why we have a deadline...I feel it important to go into every year with an updated set of rules. Nothing should be changed mid season or even mid off-season which could change the way the game is played and create an unfair scenario unless there is something so egregious that it needs an immediate course correction. At this point, going into season nine, I think anything like that would've come up, so we have the window to discuss, propose and vote on rule changes before the offseason begins.

In this cycle, I had zero proposals by the deadline. The rule change proposal that was submitted for review for the league was submitted to me for the first time after the deadline and only after another request was denied. There was not the usual back and forth available for me with the GM where I could offer advice on how I would assume the league would vote based on my years of interactions with the 30 GMs. I allowed this proposal to be submitted late because I had not begun the new league year yet but there was no fine tuning. As for that, please do so on your own. My favorite part of BAF is the basketball discussion. I hate going through the post season, award season, etc with so little discussion on the board. I know the Knicks drew our attention away a bit this year but no one has ever said you as GMs couldn't discuss a rule change amongst yourselves and then bring it up for a vote during the window pre off-season after you word it the way the majority will vote.

As for this specific rule, I will not comment on it until the voting is complete so I do not influence any GMs votes. I will speak to it after it passes or fails.
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Post#1657 » by bringbackhoffa » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:13 pm

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Post#1658 » by bishnykfan » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:15 pm

Also, one other thing...I try not to police this thread and love the discussion in general but I will say one thing regarding this thread...no personal attacks please. Keep discussion to basketball and BAF.
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Post#1659 » by Fat » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:46 pm

bringbackhoffa wrote:Ant Man available


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Post#1660 » by Mecca » Thu Jun 19, 2025 9:47 pm

I'm going to lose the vote and it is what it is. Still think in perfect world, stretch provisions should exist, especially if you took over someones mess.

Could I have gotten off Tobias, Caris and DLo? Yeah, for sure, but the goal to get off those three would be to get real capital. I can always get off those three, especially as expirings, and a lot of the offers I was receiving forced me to take on worse contracts.

br7 not having 1's for multiple years made this situation a lot harder and I decided to sit tight until this summer intentionally, as expiring contracts are easier to move & I'm not in any rush to win this year.

Having said that, if you wanna see me cook, watch out. My rep is my rep.
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