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Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides

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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

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So if they meet in the WCF then they'll get to play all 7 games in the same arena. Or however many games that series goes.


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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1665 » by Bob Ross » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:25 pm

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Like Durant, George was flattered by Leonard's recruiting. The two had a fair amount in common. They'd grown up in the Los Angeles area at about the same time. George, 29, is from Palmdale, a dusty desert town about an hour and a half north of L.A. Leonard, 28, is from Riverside, a sprawling Inland Empire town about an hour and a half east of L.A. Both had been lightly recruited out of high school, found their footing as players at mid-major colleges (George at Fresno State, Leonard at San Diego State) and then quietly entered the NBA as mid-first-round picks.

Still, Leonard's recruiting efforts caught George by surprise.

Said one source close to George, "For a quiet guy, he's a hell of a recruiter."

For George to join Leonard with the Clippers, however, he'd have to ask for a trade from Oklahoma City -- and that wasn't going to be pleasant, considering the way the franchise had treated him in the two seasons he'd played there and the bonds that he'd formed.

But George felt like it was a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity, to play at home in L.A. alongside a generational talent like Leonard. So in the middle of the week, he went to Oklahoma City general manager Sam Presti and asked for a trade -- to the Clippers.

Presti was crestfallen. Just a year ago he'd been rewarded for taking a risk and trading for George when he eschewed all other free-agent meetings and agreed to a four-year contract to remain in Oklahoma City. It was a validation of everything Presti had built and believed in. And while this felt like a repudiation of that, Presti understood.

Superstar players in the modern NBA have tremendous power. Contracts don't really matter. Leonard forced his way out of San Antonio with a year remaining on his deal. Anthony Davis forced his way out of New Orleans with a year and a half left. George forced his way out of Indiana with a year left. Jimmy Butler forced his way out of Minnesota with a year left. Kyrie Irving forced his way out of Cleveland with two years left.

You don't have to trade a player once he asks to be moved. But usually you end up wishing you did, as the unhappy superstar and corresponding chaos these situations create thwart any chance at team building. So the Thunder obliged George's request and sought to extract maximum value from the Clippers, knowing that landing George was key to the Clippers' hopes of also landing Leonard.


the bolded is for people who think we should have kept kp. once a player wants out, you pretty much have to trade them.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27130335/how-kawhi-pulled-paul-george-away-okc



looking forward to all the Howard Becks of the world to agree with this stance on everyone except the Knicks and KP
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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1667 » by knickstape4ever » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:28 pm

with how things have played out, I'd seriously go after Beal. What other teams have the resources/willingness to get him?

Knox, Frank, Trier, 2020 1st, 2021 Mavs 1st, 2023 Mavs 1st. Who says no?

DSJ
Beal
RJ
Randle
Mitch

that would be a nice young starting 5 that can grow together and IMO make the playoffs, especially in a weak East
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Post#1668 » by Gravy » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:31 pm

Yeesss I love this. PG and Kawhi just Nets-ed the Lakers.

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Post#1669 » by Lord Commander » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:32 pm

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Post#1670 » by ADeP7 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:37 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:with how things have played out, I'd seriously go after Beal. What other teams have the resources/willingness to get him?

Knox, Frank, Trier, 2020 1st, 2021 Mavs 1st, 2023 Mavs 1st. Who says no?

DSJ
Beal
RJ
Randle
Mitch

that would be a nice young starting 5 that can grow together and IMO make the playoffs, especially in a weak East


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Post#1671 » by Marty McFly » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:43 pm

bigtimeRC3 wrote:Westbrook is way overrated . He’s a stat padder and jacks up way too many shots. He is just not that good.

He’d be the best player we’ve had since Patrick Ewing. Some of ya’ll are way too confident on what this team would be able to assemble in 2 years.

So long as we don’t give up, any draft picks, RJ and Mitchell, I’d do that in a heartbeat.
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Post#1672 » by knickstape4ever » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:43 pm

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knickstape4ever wrote:with how things have played out, I'd seriously go after Beal. What other teams have the resources/willingness to get him?

Knox, Frank, Trier, 2020 1st, 2021 Mavs 1st, 2023 Mavs 1st. Who says no?

DSJ
Beal
RJ
Randle
Mitch

that would be a nice young starting 5 that can grow together and IMO make the playoffs, especially in a weak East


Frank trier Knox 2021 mavs 2021 knicks 2023 mavs

And I’m sold


wish they still had the cap space to absorb Beal without having to match salaries; any deal for Beal likely has to be done post Dec. 15th unfortunately
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Post#1673 » by KnixinSix » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:44 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:with how things have played out, I'd seriously go after Beal. What other teams have the resources/willingness to get him?

Knox, Frank, Trier, 2020 1st, 2021 Mavs 1st, 2023 Mavs 1st. Who says no?

DSJ
Beal
RJ
Randle
Mitch

that would be a nice young starting 5 that can grow together and IMO make the playoffs, especially in a weak East


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Re: Offseason Thread - So Begins The Lesser Offseason - Well... After Kawhi Decides 

Post#1675 » by knickstape4ever » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:50 pm

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knickstape4ever wrote:with how things have played out, I'd seriously go after Beal. What other teams have the resources/willingness to get him?

Knox, Frank, Trier, 2020 1st, 2021 Mavs 1st, 2023 Mavs 1st. Who says no?

DSJ
Beal
RJ
Randle
Mitch

that would be a nice young starting 5 that can grow together and IMO make the playoffs, especially in a weak East


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technically they still can do it now if the renege on 1 of their FA's signings (but that would be a bad look), since nothings official, but yeah once those become official, gotta wait until Dec. 15 and throw in Taj or Ellington
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Post#1676 » by KnixinSix » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:53 pm

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knickstape4ever wrote:with how things have played out, I'd seriously go after Beal. What other teams have the resources/willingness to get him?

Knox, Frank, Trier, 2020 1st, 2021 Mavs 1st, 2023 Mavs 1st. Who says no?

DSJ
Beal
RJ
Randle
Mitch

that would be a nice young starting 5 that can grow together and IMO make the playoffs, especially in a weak East


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technically they still can do it now if the renege on 1 of their FA's signings (but that would be a bad look), since nothings official, but yeah once those become official, gotta wait until Dec. 15 and throw in Taj or Ellington


Still wouldn't be enough I think they have to be within 20% of his salary.
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Post#1677 » by HerSports85 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:54 pm

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Post#1678 » by K_ick_God » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:54 pm

I actually think you guys are overrating Beal quite a bit. I kind of feel Knox will be better. Beal is good but he's pretty similar to Jamal Crawford. You think he should be great but he's not really that level of player. Things missing, some just intangible.
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Post#1679 » by Richard4444 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:55 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:with how things have played out, I'd seriously go after Beal. What other teams have the resources/willingness to get him?

Knox, Frank, Trier, 2020 1st, 2021 Mavs 1st, 2023 Mavs 1st. Who says no?

DSJ
Beal
RJ
Randle
Mitch

that would be a nice young starting 5 that can grow together and IMO make the playoffs, especially in a weak East


We would have to match salaries. We would be 10M short.

Also, I think Trier and Knox could be a really good season. Its better to not sell when your assets are low.
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Post#1680 » by ADeP7 » Sat Jul 6, 2019 10:59 pm

knickstape4ever wrote:
ADeP7 wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:with how things have played out, I'd seriously go after Beal. What other teams have the resources/willingness to get him?

Knox, Frank, Trier, 2020 1st, 2021 Mavs 1st, 2023 Mavs 1st. Who says no?

DSJ
Beal
RJ
Randle
Mitch

that would be a nice young starting 5 that can grow together and IMO make the playoffs, especially in a weak East


Frank trier Knox 2021 mavs 2021 knicks 2023 mavs

And I’m sold


wish they still had the cap space to absorb Beal without having to match salaries; any deal for Beal likely has to be done post Dec. 15th unfortunately


That’s the move to make. If possible I’d love to keep the pick in ‘20 just cause trading in December I’d like to be careful of being in lotto. But man

Smith / Barrett / Beal / randle / Mitch

I’d like that

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