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2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 6) -LOTTO 8/20 DRAFT 10/16!

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Post#1661 » by Richard4444 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:20 pm

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I kinda agree. But if we land high anyway like 3rd or something we shouldn't have to give much extra for Lamelo. Otherwise I rock with Hayes....hell I'd rock with Hayes regardless! :D


1 and 2 are probably Wiseman and Edwards in whichever order, so i think at 3 LaMelo would be on the board

in that case, it still might even be more clever to trade down for additional picks and/or players :nod: more assets = more trade flexibiity without giving up the farm, which sounds better for us than hinging our franchise's future on LaMelo Ball


It depends who's picking.


Wiseman can leave the Top 5.

-He is a wild care because he barely played against College kids.

- Centers who does not shoot 3 have less value in todays game. Any team can have a Capela/Favors/Holmes/JV for cheap in FA or trade market.

= Atlanta and Cavs already have young stud centers. Detroit might want to make Wood their starter Center. Wolves may view Towns only as a Center. GSW doesnt play high usage Centers. Charlotte need players in every position.
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Post#1662 » by RHODEY » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:39 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
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rajajackal wrote:
1 and 2 are probably Wiseman and Edwards in whichever order, so i think at 3 LaMelo would be on the board

in that case, it still might even be more clever to trade down for additional picks and/or players :nod: more assets = more trade flexibiity without giving up the farm, which sounds better for us than hinging our franchise's future on LaMelo Ball


It depends who's picking.


Wiseman can leave the Top 5.

-He is a wild care because he barely played against College kids.

- Centers who does not shoot 3 have less value in todays game. Any team can have a Capela/Favors/Holmes/JV for cheap in FA or trade market.

= Atlanta and Cavs already have young stud centers. Detroit might want to make Wood their starter Center. Wolves may view Towns only as a Center. GSW doesnt play high usage Centers. Charlotte need players in every position.


Right very random situation...as a result this draft's full of opportunity. I'm not in the Lamelo or bust camp - I'd love to have him but I would be about just as happy with Hayes or Deni. I do feel like the Knick brain trust is in that camp and would be prepared to bend over for another team. I hope I'm wrong about that because i like the idea of having a ton of assets -ie. 20121 1 rounders and young possible studs in the making. .
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Post#1663 » by newyorker4ever » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:46 pm

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rajajackal wrote:PICK WHERE WE PICK! there will be fitting talent at our projected range.

really against trading up. especially for LaMelo Ball. if anything, trade Mitch, Randle & the pick for Wiseman & Wiggins or something. giving up assets for LaMelo? naw, that's a fence you swing for if he's available when you pick. Wiseman's the surer thing IMO


I kinda agree. But if we land high anyway like 3rd or something we shouldn't have to give much extra for Lamelo. Otherwise I rock with Hayes....hell I'd rock with Hayes regardless! :D


More then half this board would turn to smoking rock if we passed on LaMelo for hayes.
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Post#1664 » by robillionaire » Sun Jul 26, 2020 8:53 pm

newyorker4ever wrote:
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rajajackal wrote:PICK WHERE WE PICK! there will be fitting talent at our projected range.

really against trading up. especially for LaMelo Ball. if anything, trade Mitch, Randle & the pick for Wiseman & Wiggins or something. giving up assets for LaMelo? naw, that's a fence you swing for if he's available when you pick. Wiseman's the surer thing IMO


I kinda agree. But if we land high anyway like 3rd or something we shouldn't have to give much extra for Lamelo. Otherwise I rock with Hayes....hell I'd rock with Hayes regardless! :D


More then half this board would turn to smoking rock if we passed on LaMelo for hayes.


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Post#1665 » by knickstape4ever » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:47 pm

Players drafted by Thibs in Minnesota:

2016:
Kris Dunn

2017:
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2018:
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Keita Bates-Diop

none of his rookies played more than 25min per game, he definitely prefers the vets, but hopefully he has different directions from the FO, hated last year giving so many minutes to players who have no future here. dont want Thibs coming in playing Taj 30 min per game, or bringing in a Jeff Teague/DJ Augustin and playing them a ton of minutes over the young PG we draft
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Post#1666 » by RHODEY » Mon Jul 27, 2020 12:17 am

newyorker4ever wrote:
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rajajackal wrote:PICK WHERE WE PICK! there will be fitting talent at our projected range.

really against trading up. especially for LaMelo Ball. if anything, trade Mitch, Randle & the pick for Wiseman & Wiggins or something. giving up assets for LaMelo? naw, that's a fence you swing for if he's available when you pick. Wiseman's the surer thing IMO


I kinda agree. But if we land high anyway like 3rd or something we shouldn't have to give much extra for Lamelo. Otherwise I rock with Hayes....hell I'd rock with Hayes regardless! :D


More then half this board would turn to smoking rock if we passed on LaMelo for hayes.


Right . Im not gonna bash lamelo, I like the ceiling but Hayes IMO nipping at his heels and is less risky:

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Post#1667 » by knickstape4ever » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:29 am



I still think that jump shot needs work; he has good natural touch but his mechanics are very stiff. worry about his ability to create off the dribble; if they draft Haliburton, need more point-RJ
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Post#1668 » by RHODEY » Mon Jul 27, 2020 3:41 am

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I still think that jump shot needs work; he has good natural touch but his mechanics are very stiff. worry about his ability to create off the dribble; if they draft Haliburton, need more point-RJ


He might e one of the guys like Joker, everything looks wrong...until it goes in...
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Post#1669 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Jul 27, 2020 4:16 am

If Haliburton can hit jumpers off the dribble, he’s gonna be a really good PG. big if though
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Post#1671 » by bigfnjoe96 » Mon Jul 27, 2020 11:51 pm

Great analysis from Seth Greenberg on the draft...

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Post#1672 » by EMG518 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:16 am

I think we should grab this guy with a later pick. I think he is going to wind up being good.


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Post#1673 » by KnicksGadfly » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:58 am

Teams are looking to sell picks.

Wake up Leon! Use those connects! Give us some shytty one year contracts. Don't pull a Mills/Perry
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Post#1674 » by TheGreenArrow » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:33 pm

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Post#1675 » by Lord Commander » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:04 pm

With that name, he'll always play with a chip on his shoulder. :lol:
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Post#1676 » by bigfnjoe96 » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:07 pm

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I would absolutely love this for our 2nd rd pick or if he goes undrafted.
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Post#1677 » by Jeff Van Gully » Tue Jul 28, 2020 4:49 pm

Lord Commander wrote:With that name, he'll always play with a chip on his shoulder. :lol:


god. how often will he have to hear, "ole scrubb ass..."
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Post#1678 » by TheGreenArrow » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:06 pm

Cp3
Lamelo
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Hc thibs


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Post#1679 » by robillionaire » Tue Jul 28, 2020 5:07 pm

“There could be NBA teams who explore selling their first round pick this year in order to raise money with league revenues significantly down for the 20-21 season.

"I suspect first-round picks will be for sale in this draft," one team executive said. "We haven't really seen that in a decade."

The Denver Nuggets were the last team to sell a first round pick as they sold the selection that became Rudy Gobert in 2013 to the Utah Jazz.

The 2020 draft is generally considered to be one of the weaker classes in recent memory.”


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Post#1680 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Jul 28, 2020 6:51 pm

Like I said before, I definitely expect Hayes to be available in our range. I think he’s good but I think he’s gotten a little too overrated.
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