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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1661 » by Zenzibar » Sun Apr 3, 2022 6:33 pm

There are alertnate Global news recaps from the Saker, strategic-culture.org, Asain Times and others. A good read from MARTIN NIEMÖLLER: "FIRST THEY CAME FOR THE SOCIALISTS..." Someone who provided a different perspective when it was actually a crime to.

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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1662 » by HarthorneWingo » Sun Apr 3, 2022 6:39 pm

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Stannis wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:Get closer to Russia? Putin is now severely weakened, the Ruble is worthless, the Great Russian Military has been exposed as inept and weak. Putin has suffered almost 18,000 casualties and who knows how many more captured. The Russian people will go NUTS when they find out how badly Putin lied to them. Can you say Russian Revolution? Those Russian people want to have normal lives. They certainly don't, IMO, want to live like the people in China or India do. They have nothing in common with those peoples. The Russians have more in common with Americans, I think. THEY LOVE ROCK AND ROLL for crying out loud!


I think people forget just how Asian Russia actually is.

We are all in for a surprise.


Agreed. I think support for Putin has only risen in recent polls in Russia among the people. The other thing is that there’s a bunch of fake news and a history of yearning for Russia to be a great nation. All the shat that Putin did with the far right here was perfected in Eastern Europe and Russia. There are definitely protests, but it’s not enough yet. People are riding that high of protecting their homeland and fake news but mothers tend not to like it when their sons are drafted into a war and die. If it was China doing this, I’d be more scared. Russia has Asian and autocratic elements but they’re just not as competent as the CCP. I do see this as getting drawn out.

At the same time, we shouldn’t minimize the damage Russia has done to itself during the war. They’ve helped out NATO more than anything, brought together the EU (except for the Trojan horses), and kinda exposed themselves as weak. They’ve even weakened the hold of pro-Putin propaganda in America, and even someone like Orban is weaker now in Hungary. Yah, there are concerns with China, India, Hungary, Israel, and more, but I think Russia put a lot of work into weakening the West and they’ve really undermined that.


According to election polls, Putin always wins by 90%. :lol: Plus:

1. Many Russians who are opposed to the war left the county.
2. Many Russians who publicly oppose the war are put in jail.
3. Russian propaganda.
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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1663 » by 8516knicks » Sun Apr 3, 2022 6:56 pm

Are We Ther Yet wrote:I keep seeing a lot of chatter about the Petro dollar and the removal of the dollar as world reserve currency. One side says it's happening soon. The other side acts like it isn't possible. This is the scary part of what's going on right now IMO. How long before this is a reality? That's what I wanna know. Is it a reality? Many other countries citizens are all for it and have an imperialist view of America. Then I see Americans acting like it isn't even a possibility. Then there's the Great Reset talk and all of the rest. Scary time to be alive.



One source I follow - Mark Blyth of Brown Univ (an economics prof) - says, rearding inflation (and like stuff like the dollar being the world's currency) - he says to check out the futures markets - where the money insiders bet on what's likely to happen - there even when we have huge headlines about inflation, in the future's markets things are a LOT more placid. Also, apparently Japan has been TRYING to get over 2% inflation for DECADES and CAN'T. Blyth's youtube vids are a good source.
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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1664 » by 8516knicks » Sun Apr 3, 2022 6:58 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
KnicksGadfly wrote:
Stannis wrote:
I think people forget just how Asian Russia actually is.

We are all in for a surprise.


Agreed. I think support for Putin has only risen in recent polls in Russia among the people. The other thing is that there’s a bunch of fake news and a history of yearning for Russia to be a great nation. All the shat that Putin did with the far right here was perfected in Eastern Europe and Russia. There are definitely protests, but it’s not enough yet. People are riding that high of protecting their homeland and fake news but mothers tend not to like it when their sons are drafted into a war and die. If it was China doing this, I’d be more scared. Russia has Asian and autocratic elements but they’re just not as competent as the CCP. I do see this as getting drawn out.

At the same time, we shouldn’t minimize the damage Russia has done to itself during the war. They’ve helped out NATO more than anything, brought together the EU (except for the Trojan horses), and kinda exposed themselves as weak. They’ve even weakened the hold of pro-Putin propaganda in America, and even someone like Orban is weaker now in Hungary. Yah, there are concerns with China, India, Hungary, Israel, and more, but I think Russia put a lot of work into weakening the West and they’ve really undermined that.


According to election polls, Putin always wins by 90%. :lol: Plus:

1. Many Russians who are opposed to the war left the county.
2. Many Russians who publicly oppose the war are put in jail.
3. Russian propaganda.


Or, as Stalin said, "There will be fewer but better Russians." 8-)
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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1665 » by Jalen Bluntson » Sun Apr 3, 2022 9:35 pm

8516knicks wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:I keep seeing a lot of chatter about the Petro dollar and the removal of the dollar as world reserve currency. One side says it's happening soon. The other side acts like it isn't possible. This is the scary part of what's going on right now IMO. How long before this is a reality? That's what I wanna know. Is it a reality? Many other countries citizens are all for it and have an imperialist view of America. Then I see Americans acting like it isn't even a possibility. Then there's the Great Reset talk and all of the rest. Scary time to be alive.



One source I follow - Mark Blyth of Brown Univ (an economics prof) - says, rearding inflation (and like stuff like the dollar being the world's currency) - he says to check out the futures markets - where the money insiders bet on what's likely to happen - there even when we have huge headlines about inflation, in the future's markets things are a LOT more placid. Also, apparently Japan has been TRYING to get over 2% inflation for DECADES and CAN'T. Blyth's youtube vids are a good source.


What's his take on this? Do you know off hand?
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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1666 » by ccvle » Sun Apr 3, 2022 9:59 pm

Zenzibar wrote:There are alertnate Global news recaps from the Saker, strategic-culture.org, Asain Times and others. A good read from MARTIN NIEMÖLLER: "FIRST THEY CAME FOR THE SOCIALISTS..." Someone who provided a different perspective when it was actually a crime to.

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Not sure about other news outlet that you mentioned but Asian news is terrible. They spent the whole time before the invasion critizing the west for exaggerating Russia " training", saying it was impossible for Russia to be planning for an invasion.
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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1667 » by poeman » Sun Apr 3, 2022 10:23 pm

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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1668 » by 8516knicks » Mon Apr 4, 2022 12:08 am

Are We Ther Yet wrote:
8516knicks wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:I keep seeing a lot of chatter about the Petro dollar and the removal of the dollar as world reserve currency. One side says it's happening soon. The other side acts like it isn't possible. This is the scary part of what's going on right now IMO. How long before this is a reality? That's what I wanna know. Is it a reality? Many other countries citizens are all for it and have an imperialist view of America. Then I see Americans acting like it isn't even a possibility. Then there's the Great Reset talk and all of the rest. Scary time to be alive.



One source I follow - Mark Blyth of Brown Univ (an economics prof) - says, rearding inflation (and like stuff like the dollar being the world's currency) - he says to check out the futures markets - where the money insiders bet on what's likely to happen - there even when we have huge headlines about inflation, in the future's markets things are a LOT more placid. Also, apparently Japan has been TRYING to get over 2% inflation for DECADES and CAN'T. Blyth's youtube vids are a good source.


What's his take on this? Do you know off hand?


don't think he's addressed it specifically in light of the Ukraine ware but as of a few months ago he suspected we would stay the world's currency for some time.
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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1669 » by N8isScofield » Mon Apr 4, 2022 3:13 am

Are We Ther Yet wrote:I keep seeing a lot of chatter about the Petro dollar and the removal of the dollar as world reserve currency. One side says it's happening soon. The other side acts like it isn't possible. This is the scary part of what's going on right now IMO. How long before this is a reality? That's what I wanna know. Is it a reality? Many other countries citizens are all for it and have an imperialist view of America. Then I see Americans acting like it isn't even a possibility. Then there's the Great Reset talk and all of the rest. Scary time to be alive.

Anyone suggesting that the Yuan is going to replace the dollar as the global reserve currency is a moron. There isn't a more polite way of putting it. The dollar being the reserve currency is partly due to the petro dollar and partly due to what every facet of society is based on which is predictability. The way the Chinese have manipulated the value of their currency has ensured that no country on earth would ever trust the Yuan as a reserve currency. The Great Reset is mindless babbling by the same conspiracy theorists that deny things right in front of them like climate change and violent insurrections while thinking that there are space lasers causing wild fires.
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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1670 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Apr 4, 2022 3:15 am

N8isScofield wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:I keep seeing a lot of chatter about the Petro dollar and the removal of the dollar as world reserve currency. One side says it's happening soon. The other side acts like it isn't possible. This is the scary part of what's going on right now IMO. How long before this is a reality? That's what I wanna know. Is it a reality? Many other countries citizens are all for it and have an imperialist view of America. Then I see Americans acting like it isn't even a possibility. Then there's the Great Reset talk and all of the rest. Scary time to be alive.

Anyone suggesting that the Yuan is going to replace the dollar as the global reserve currency is a moron. There isn't a more polite way of putting it. The dollar being the reserve currency is partly due to the petro dollar and partly due to what every facet of society is based on which is predictability. The way the Chinese have manipulated the value of their currency has ensured that no country on earth would ever trust the Yuan as a reserve currency. The Great Reset is mindless babbling by the same conspiracy theorists that deny things right in front of them like climate change and violent insurrections while thinking that there are space lasers causing wild fires.


A sensible post :) (not trying to insult AWTY; I agree with the points made though)
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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1671 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Apr 4, 2022 3:20 am

Wow, the barbarity of the Russian forces keeps getting worse. The war crimes they are committing are mounting. The continued revelation of atrocities against civilians and mass executions of non-combatants is pushing Russia into a deeper hole than before. More sanctions will be brought. Putin will be boxed in even more.

I'm glad Ukraine is steadily reclaiming territory, but they are inheriting a hellish landscape decimated by these bastards. It does seem reasonable now to hope Ukraine will push the Russians out completely, though I have no basis for guessing when.
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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1672 » by Jalen Bluntson » Mon Apr 4, 2022 3:28 am

Clyde_Style wrote:
N8isScofield wrote:
Are We Ther Yet wrote:I keep seeing a lot of chatter about the Petro dollar and the removal of the dollar as world reserve currency. One side says it's happening soon. The other side acts like it isn't possible. This is the scary part of what's going on right now IMO. How long before this is a reality? That's what I wanna know. Is it a reality? Many other countries citizens are all for it and have an imperialist view of America. Then I see Americans acting like it isn't even a possibility. Then there's the Great Reset talk and all of the rest. Scary time to be alive.

Anyone suggesting that the Yuan is going to replace the dollar as the global reserve currency is a moron. There isn't a more polite way of putting it. The dollar being the reserve currency is partly due to the petro dollar and partly due to what every facet of society is based on which is predictability. The way the Chinese have manipulated the value of their currency has ensured that no country on earth would ever trust the Yuan as a reserve currency. The Great Reset is mindless babbling by the same conspiracy theorists that deny things right in front of them like climate change and violent insurrections while thinking that there are space lasers causing wild fires.


A sensible post :) (not trying to insult AWTY; I agree with the points made though)


Well....this is why I brought it up. Lots of talk about it. Apparently some people feel the need to insult people instead of just stating actual facts to continue the discussion. Not that I felt anything was directed at me. I didn't even mention Yuan.
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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1673 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Apr 4, 2022 11:34 am

Are We Ther Yet wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
N8isScofield wrote:Anyone suggesting that the Yuan is going to replace the dollar as the global reserve currency is a moron. There isn't a more polite way of putting it. The dollar being the reserve currency is partly due to the petro dollar and partly due to what every facet of society is based on which is predictability. The way the Chinese have manipulated the value of their currency has ensured that no country on earth would ever trust the Yuan as a reserve currency. The Great Reset is mindless babbling by the same conspiracy theorists that deny things right in front of them like climate change and violent insurrections while thinking that there are space lasers causing wild fires.


A sensible post :) (not trying to insult AWTY; I agree with the points made though)


Well....this is why I brought it up. Lots of talk about it. Apparently some people feel the need to insult people instead of just stating actual facts to continue the discussion. Not that I felt anything was directed at me. I didn't even mention Yuan.


Someone insulted you? Not cool.
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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1674 » by Jethrobodine123 » Mon Apr 4, 2022 3:52 pm

Clyde_Style wrote:Wow, the barbarity of the Russian forces keeps getting worse. The war crimes they are committing are mounting. The continued revelation of atrocities against civilians and mass executions of non-combatants is pushing Russia into a deeper hole than before. More sanctions will be brought. Putin will be boxed in even more.

I'm glad Ukraine is steadily reclaiming territory, but they are inheriting a hellish landscape decimated by these bastards. It does seem reasonable now to hope Ukraine will push the Russians out completely, though I have no basis for guessing when.


I know it's not the best analogy, but Putin is like Mike Tyson in that when he begins to lose he turns to dirty tactics, except he not only bites your ears or anything else he can get a hold of, he has a gun in his trunks that he threatens to use. The combination of the incredibly brave Ukrainians kicking ass and the Russian soldiers incompetence is really striking. Unfortunately, we're not out of the woods, it all depends on how low Vlad will go, he still has some scary stuff in his back pocket that he could use.

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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1675 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Apr 4, 2022 3:59 pm

Jethrobodine123 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Wow, the barbarity of the Russian forces keeps getting worse. The war crimes they are committing are mounting. The continued revelation of atrocities against civilians and mass executions of non-combatants is pushing Russia into a deeper hole than before. More sanctions will be brought. Putin will be boxed in even more.

I'm glad Ukraine is steadily reclaiming territory, but they are inheriting a hellish landscape decimated by these bastards. It does seem reasonable now to hope Ukraine will push the Russians out completely, though I have no basis for guessing when.


I know it's not the best analogy, but Putin is like Mike Tyson in that when he begins to lose he turns to dirty tactics, except he not only bites your ears or anything else he can get a hold of, he has a gun in his trunks that he threatens to use. The combination of the incredibly brave Ukrainians kicking ass and the Russian soldiers incompetence is really striking. Unfortunately, we're not out of the woods, it all depends on how low Vlad will go, he still has some scary stuff in his back pocket that he could use.

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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1676 » by Jethrobodine123 » Mon Apr 4, 2022 4:36 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Jethrobodine123 wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Wow, the barbarity of the Russian forces keeps getting worse. The war crimes they are committing are mounting. The continued revelation of atrocities against civilians and mass executions of non-combatants is pushing Russia into a deeper hole than before. More sanctions will be brought. Putin will be boxed in even more.

I'm glad Ukraine is steadily reclaiming territory, but they are inheriting a hellish landscape decimated by these bastards. It does seem reasonable now to hope Ukraine will push the Russians out completely, though I have no basis for guessing when.


I know it's not the best analogy, but Putin is like Mike Tyson in that when he begins to lose he turns to dirty tactics, except he not only bites your ears or anything else he can get a hold of, he has a gun in his trunks that he threatens to use. The combination of the incredibly brave Ukrainians kicking ass and the Russian soldiers incompetence is really striking. Unfortunately, we're not out of the woods, it all depends on how low Vlad will go, he still has some scary stuff in his back pocket that he could use.

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Exactomundo.

There doesn't seem to be a low where Vlad won't go.

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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1677 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Apr 4, 2022 6:40 pm

Jethrobodine123 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
Jethrobodine123 wrote:
I know it's not the best analogy, but Putin is like Mike Tyson in that when he begins to lose he turns to dirty tactics, except he not only bites your ears or anything else he can get a hold of, he has a gun in his trunks that he threatens to use. The combination of the incredibly brave Ukrainians kicking ass and the Russian soldiers incompetence is really striking. Unfortunately, we're not out of the woods, it all depends on how low Vlad will go, he still has some scary stuff in his back pocket that he could use.

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Exactomundo.

There doesn't seem to be a low where Vlad won't go.

J


I hope the Democrats collected all of their receipts and throw the GOP’s boot licking of this butcher back in their faces during the mid-term campaigns. They shouldn’t let a single one of those traitorous toads off the hook
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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1678 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Apr 4, 2022 6:41 pm

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Jethrobodine123 wrote:
HarthorneWingo wrote:
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Exactomundo.

There doesn't seem to be a low where Vlad won't go.

J


I hope the Democrats collected all of their receipts and throw the GOP’s boot licking of this butcher back in their faces during the mid-term campaigns. They shouldn’t let a single one of those traitorous toads off the hook


They will. Expect a good ass-kicking this November.
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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1679 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Apr 4, 2022 6:53 pm

HarthorneWingo wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
Jethrobodine123 wrote:
Exactomundo.

There doesn't seem to be a low where Vlad won't go.

J


I hope the Democrats collected all of their receipts and throw the GOP’s boot licking of this butcher back in their faces during the mid-term campaigns. They shouldn’t let a single one of those traitorous toads off the hook


They will. Expect a good ass-kicking this November.


I really do not get the fear mongering about the mid-terms. The economy is strong and growing amidst inflation which anyone sensible knows is the result of factors outside of Biden’s control (shutting down a sketchy pipeline project was not one of them).

Biden is doing well considering the razor thin margins he has had to cope with. There were inevitably going to be some failures with Manchin Enema.

He did a 180 degree better job on covid than Trump and made it possible for everyone to get their shots free and easy.

He has been rebuilding the judiciary at a record pace.

Even some of his haters have to be impressed by his response to Putin.

Infrastructure has been partially addressed after four years of blah blah blah

The prosecution of insurrectionists is going to set a whole new tone for the mid-terms too. Any remaining fence-sitting Republicans are going to feel ashamed over the incontrovertible facts of treason committed by their representatives.

I’m not predicting anything, but I think the Democrats have proven to be the clear alternative to the profiteering anarchy offered by the proto-fascist element of the GOP.

And we know that if people are paying their bills they will vote with their pocketbooks. That’s why I expect Biden to go hard on securing oil supply in the next 3-6 months even if it will probably undermine his climate change pledges.
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Re: OT: Russia-Ukraine War 

Post#1680 » by Clyde_Style » Mon Apr 4, 2022 7:00 pm

P.S. We had multiple govt shutdowns under Trump. The Dems should shove that into every GOP candidate’s face and say what has your party done for Americans in the past six years?

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