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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Edition 

Post#1661 » by TheGreenArrow » Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:15 pm

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"his efficiency is garbage...
his defense is horrific "



are you sure hes not talking randle?

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Randle: 2 (would’ve been 3)

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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Edition 

Post#1662 » by aggo » Sun Aug 25, 2024 11:38 pm

Wildcat wrote:Why yes, I too prefer to compare 2 vastly different players from one another.

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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Edition 

Post#1663 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:20 pm

TheGreenArrow wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
aggo wrote:
"his efficiency is garbage...
his defense is horrific "



are you sure hes not talking randle?

Lamelo career ts% : 54.9
Randle career ts : 55.7

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Randle’s teams: 3


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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Edition 

Post#1664 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon Aug 26, 2024 1:21 pm

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stfu

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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Edition 

Post#1665 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Aug 26, 2024 7:32 pm

Damn Ant-Man really put his foot in mouth, talking about no one had skill back in the day besides Jordan. Magic went off on him and now KG went off



It's one thing to be young, but damn bro watch some YouTube at least :lol: that's embarrassing. Just at his position alone I can name multiple dudes that would have lit Ant up from the past 35 years:

Penny, Spree, Vince, Clyde, AI, Allan Houston, Mitch Richmond, Ray Allen off the top of my head and those are just the bigger names. Eddie Jones was a bad man. Jerry Stackhouse would drop buckets on you and beat your ass if you got outta pocket. Jimmy Jackson was another one too.

Crazy, but I guess that's just how things go. Someone will be calling LeBron and Carmelo bums 25 years from now
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Edition 

Post#1666 » by thebuzzardman » Mon Aug 26, 2024 8:12 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Damn Ant-Man really put his foot in mouth, talking about no one had skill back in the day besides Jordan. Magic went off on him and now KG went off



It's one thing to be young, but damn bro watch some YouTube at least :lol: that's embarrassing. Just at his position alone I can name multiple dudes that would have lit Ant up from the past 35 years:

Penny, Spree, Vince, Clyde, AI, Allan Houston, Mitch Richmond, Ray Allen off the top of my head and those are just the bigger names. Eddie Jones was a bad man. Jerry Stackhouse would drop buckets on you and beat your ass if you got outta pocket. Jimmy Jackson was another one too.

Crazy, but I guess that's just how things go. Someone will be calling LeBron and Carmelo bums 25 years from now

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Post#1667 » by spree2kawhi » Mon Aug 26, 2024 9:56 pm

The fall of Anthony Edwards was just a matter of time. So much hype so suddenly at that age … I just hope he won’t be as corny as LeBron when it’s all said and done.
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Edition 

Post#1668 » by MrDollarBills » Mon Aug 26, 2024 10:28 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:The fall of Anthony Edwards was just a matter of time. So much hype so suddenly at that age … I just hope he won’t be as corny as LeBron when it’s all said and done.


Eh, Ant is a kid. I think some of the talk has gotten to his head though

I do remember when he got drafted, he said he really didn't watch basketball a lot. Seems on brand here that he's got no clue how good his predecessors were.
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Edition 

Post#1669 » by WargamesX » Tue Aug 27, 2024 9:45 am

MrDollarBills wrote:Damn Ant-Man really put his foot in mouth, talking about no one had skill back in the day besides Jordan. Magic went off on him and now KG went off



It's one thing to be young, but damn bro watch some YouTube at least :lol: that's embarrassing. Just at his position alone I can name multiple dudes that would have lit Ant up from the past 35 years:

Penny, Spree, Vince, Clyde, AI, Allan Houston, Mitch Richmond, Ray Allen off the top of my head and those are just the bigger names. Eddie Jones was a bad man. Jerry Stackhouse would drop buckets on you and beat your ass if you got outta pocket. Jimmy Jackson was another one too.

Crazy, but I guess that's just how things go. Someone will be calling LeBron and Carmelo bums 25 years from now


It’s weird because the more I learn about Ant the more they seem like he has no mentors, and that has made him naive about…. Everything. Though to be fair the older generations aren’t obliged to help. Back in the day an older player like Magic, Zeke, or KG might have taken Ant aside and schooled him on his history. Now everyone feels compelled to check him and just say “watch youtube” completely ignoring YouTube annd the internet as a whole lacks context. Plus, I bet if a player did try to take him aside to mentor him he would mention them in a commercial about haters.

Social media and clout chasing makes it hard to have a real conversation when that conversation might get leaked out of context. So you got guys talking about this to promote their brand instead of reaching out.

Ant has all the information at his finger tips but clearly does not “dig in the crates” when it comes to finding information and hates to be called out on not knowing stuff. He is slowly going from Naive to proud to be ignorant, and I don’t know if anything will change.

The worst part is he is basically saying something similar to what JJ Reddick said but it’s demonized more because more people are around to call it nonsense. This theme of disrespect of older players has been going on for a few years. Ant just is being made the face for it cause it’s the most recent example.
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Edition 

Post#1670 » by Guano » Tue Aug 27, 2024 1:26 pm

I don't see the problem here... ant is 23 and should be talkin sht about old heads.

magic handled it well - talk your sht and keep it moving.

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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Edition 

Post#1671 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Aug 27, 2024 3:30 pm

WargamesX wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Damn Ant-Man really put his foot in mouth, talking about no one had skill back in the day besides Jordan. Magic went off on him and now KG went off



It's one thing to be young, but damn bro watch some YouTube at least :lol: that's embarrassing. Just at his position alone I can name multiple dudes that would have lit Ant up from the past 35 years:

Penny, Spree, Vince, Clyde, AI, Allan Houston, Mitch Richmond, Ray Allen off the top of my head and those are just the bigger names. Eddie Jones was a bad man. Jerry Stackhouse would drop buckets on you and beat your ass if you got outta pocket. Jimmy Jackson was another one too.

Crazy, but I guess that's just how things go. Someone will be calling LeBron and Carmelo bums 25 years from now


It’s weird because the more I learn about Ant the more they seem like he has no mentors, and that has made him naive about…. Everything. Though to be fair the older generations aren’t obliged to help. Back in the day an older player like Magic, Zeke, or KG might have taken Ant aside and schooled him on his history. Now everyone feels compelled to check him and just say “watch youtube” completely ignoring YouTube annd the internet as a whole lacks context. Plus, I bet if a player did try to take him aside to mentor him he would mention them in a commercial about haters.

Social media and clout chasing makes it hard to have a real conversation when that conversation might get leaked out of context. So you got guys talking about this to promote their brand instead of reaching out.

Ant has all the information at his finger tips but clearly does not “dig in the crates” when it comes to finding information and hates to be called out on not knowing stuff. He is slowly going from Naive to proud to be ignorant, and I don’t know if anything will change.

The worst part is he is basically saying something similar to what JJ Reddick said but it’s demonized more because more people are around to call it nonsense. This theme of disrespect of older players has been going on for a few years. Ant just is being made the face for it cause it’s the most recent example.


I was going to mention that Reddick did something similar and wildly disrespectful and he got checked by Jerry West over it before he passed. He should have known better.

I look at it as a generational thing. I just feel like players from the past had more of an appreciation for those that came before them and studied the game outside of their era. Ant doesn't seem like he's much of a student of the game if he thinks guys that came before him had no skill. Oscar Robertson? Kareem? Isiah? Bird? Magic?
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Edition 

Post#1672 » by Spree2Houston » Tue Aug 27, 2024 4:07 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:Damn Ant-Man really put his foot in mouth, talking about no one had skill back in the day besides Jordan. Magic went off on him and now KG went off



It's one thing to be young, but damn bro watch some YouTube at least :lol: that's embarrassing. Just at his position alone I can name multiple dudes that would have lit Ant up from the past 35 years:

Penny, Spree, Vince, Clyde, AI, Allan Houston, Mitch Richmond, Ray Allen off the top of my head and those are just the bigger names. Eddie Jones was a bad man. Jerry Stackhouse would drop buckets on you and beat your ass if you got outta pocket. Jimmy Jackson was another one too.

Crazy, but I guess that's just how things go. Someone will be calling LeBron and Carmelo bums 25 years from now


The superstars were better in the 90s and 00s. The role players are better in this era. Nobody from this era could’ve beaten these rosters.

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Jordan
Olajuwon
Penny
Malone
Pippen
Barkley
Stockton
Hill
Richmond
Payton
Miller
Dexter
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Ewing
Kemp

2000s
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Kobe
Wade
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Post#1673 » by The Vo Show » Tue Aug 27, 2024 5:14 pm

MrDollarBills wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Damn Ant-Man really put his foot in mouth, talking about no one had skill back in the day besides Jordan. Magic went off on him and now KG went off



It's one thing to be young, but damn bro watch some YouTube at least :lol: that's embarrassing. Just at his position alone I can name multiple dudes that would have lit Ant up from the past 35 years:

Penny, Spree, Vince, Clyde, AI, Allan Houston, Mitch Richmond, Ray Allen off the top of my head and those are just the bigger names. Eddie Jones was a bad man. Jerry Stackhouse would drop buckets on you and beat your ass if you got outta pocket. Jimmy Jackson was another one too.

Crazy, but I guess that's just how things go. Someone will be calling LeBron and Carmelo bums 25 years from now


It’s weird because the more I learn about Ant the more they seem like he has no mentors, and that has made him naive about…. Everything. Though to be fair the older generations aren’t obliged to help. Back in the day an older player like Magic, Zeke, or KG might have taken Ant aside and schooled him on his history. Now everyone feels compelled to check him and just say “watch youtube” completely ignoring YouTube annd the internet as a whole lacks context. Plus, I bet if a player did try to take him aside to mentor him he would mention them in a commercial about haters.

Social media and clout chasing makes it hard to have a real conversation when that conversation might get leaked out of context. So you got guys talking about this to promote their brand instead of reaching out.

Ant has all the information at his finger tips but clearly does not “dig in the crates” when it comes to finding information and hates to be called out on not knowing stuff. He is slowly going from Naive to proud to be ignorant, and I don’t know if anything will change.

The worst part is he is basically saying something similar to what JJ Reddick said but it’s demonized more because more people are around to call it nonsense. This theme of disrespect of older players has been going on for a few years. Ant just is being made the face for it cause it’s the most recent example.


I was going to mention that Reddick did something similar and wildly disrespectful and he got checked by Jerry West over it before he passed. He should have known better.

I look at it as a generational thing. I just feel like players from the past had more of an appreciation for those that came before them and studied the game outside of their era. Ant doesn't seem like he's much of a student of the game if he thinks guys that came before him had no skill. Oscar Robertson? Kareem? Isiah? Bird? Magic?


I think part of that is due to the availability of information for players these days. Older players had no where to look to besides old game footage of known great players. Then they studied them to get better. That forced them to appreciate players of the past.

Now, you can go on youtube and there are millions of different coaches, some of which are known player development coaches of professional players. That makes it so these players don't need to dissect a bunch of old game videos to figure out why x player is using y move since a coach is already telling them why it works and how to practice it.
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Edition 

Post#1674 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Aug 27, 2024 5:23 pm

Spree2Houston wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:Damn Ant-Man really put his foot in mouth, talking about no one had skill back in the day besides Jordan. Magic went off on him and now KG went off



It's one thing to be young, but damn bro watch some YouTube at least :lol: that's embarrassing. Just at his position alone I can name multiple dudes that would have lit Ant up from the past 35 years:

Penny, Spree, Vince, Clyde, AI, Allan Houston, Mitch Richmond, Ray Allen off the top of my head and those are just the bigger names. Eddie Jones was a bad man. Jerry Stackhouse would drop buckets on you and beat your ass if you got outta pocket. Jimmy Jackson was another one too.

Crazy, but I guess that's just how things go. Someone will be calling LeBron and Carmelo bums 25 years from now


The superstars were better in the 90s and 00s. The role players are better in this era. Nobody from this era could’ve beaten these rosters.

90s
Jordan
Olajuwon
Penny
Malone
Pippen
Barkley
Stockton
Hill
Richmond
Payton
Miller
Dexter
Shaq
Ewing
Kemp

2000s
Lebron
Kobe
Wade
Tmac
Iverson
Duncan
Garnett
Nowitski
Nash
Kidd
Ming
Webber


Right, look at these names. Take the 00s out of it and you still have guys that would be dominant in today's game.

Ant is a very good player but I can tell you right now, a guy like 1994 Penny would have embarrassed him. Gary Payton would have had him wanting to fight.
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Re: Around the NBA - Offseason Edition 

Post#1675 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Aug 27, 2024 5:27 pm

The Vo Show wrote:
MrDollarBills wrote:
WargamesX wrote:
It’s weird because the more I learn about Ant the more they seem like he has no mentors, and that has made him naive about…. Everything. Though to be fair the older generations aren’t obliged to help. Back in the day an older player like Magic, Zeke, or KG might have taken Ant aside and schooled him on his history. Now everyone feels compelled to check him and just say “watch youtube” completely ignoring YouTube annd the internet as a whole lacks context. Plus, I bet if a player did try to take him aside to mentor him he would mention them in a commercial about haters.

Social media and clout chasing makes it hard to have a real conversation when that conversation might get leaked out of context. So you got guys talking about this to promote their brand instead of reaching out.

Ant has all the information at his finger tips but clearly does not “dig in the crates” when it comes to finding information and hates to be called out on not knowing stuff. He is slowly going from Naive to proud to be ignorant, and I don’t know if anything will change.

The worst part is he is basically saying something similar to what JJ Reddick said but it’s demonized more because more people are around to call it nonsense. This theme of disrespect of older players has been going on for a few years. Ant just is being made the face for it cause it’s the most recent example.


I was going to mention that Reddick did something similar and wildly disrespectful and he got checked by Jerry West over it before he passed. He should have known better.

I look at it as a generational thing. I just feel like players from the past had more of an appreciation for those that came before them and studied the game outside of their era. Ant doesn't seem like he's much of a student of the game if he thinks guys that came before him had no skill. Oscar Robertson? Kareem? Isiah? Bird? Magic?


I think part of that is due to the availability of information for players these days. Older players had no where to look to besides old game footage of known great players. Then they studied them to get better. That forced them to appreciate players of the past.

Now, you can go on youtube and there are millions of different coaches, some of which are known player development coaches of professional players. That makes it so these players don't need to dissect a bunch of old game videos to figure out why x player is using y move since a coach is already telling them why it works and how to practice it.



Great point, and that's why I said this is a generational thing. Back in the 90s we would record games and watch players to try to steal their moves (if possible. I tell you, Grant Hill and Scottie Pippen had insane first steps off the dribble). In the 00s guys were pulling up YouTube. Now I guess that's an outdated method of learning.
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Post#1677 » by 3toheadmelo » Tue Aug 27, 2024 11:04 pm

Guano wrote:I don't see the problem here... ant is 23 and should be talkin sht about old heads.

magic handled it well - talk your sht and keep it moving.

this isn't serious

Tatum would never disrespect the legends like that fraud ant!!!
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Post#1678 » by spree2kawhi » Wed Aug 28, 2024 5:17 am

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Post#1680 » by The Vo Show » Wed Aug 28, 2024 4:16 pm

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Pretty crazy if true. I remembered Lebron signing with the Heat first and Amare was our consolation prize but I just looked up the signing dates: Amare - July 5 and Lebron announces July 8.

I find it a bit hard to believe that the Knicks didn't talk to Rich Paul and get word from him that they wanted to play as a package... I remember the Knicks having ample salary cap that summer with the intention of getting Lebron. Donnie Walsh was our GM at the time and he is a solid GM. And Gil does have a habit of talking out of his ass.

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