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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1661 » by Capn'O » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:21 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:KAT is in the lowest tiers of defenders when it comes to anchoring a defense. It’s not gonna work at all unless we have a healthy Mitch next to him.


Which is why I got BLopez.



Wolves were 13th defensively the year before they got Gobert, we'll be top 10 with him and the wings helping out.


The Nuggets won the the title as 5th offense and 15th defense.


It could work out. Thibs created some great defenses with Boozer as the weak link. But acting like it's not the main concern now is wild.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1662 » by knicks1999 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:22 pm

Any word on the final trade…what Charlotte got….the draft picks…?
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1663 » by aggo » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:22 pm

u can tell who is so jaded from rooting for a bad team for all these years that they are now scared to root for a good team.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1664 » by E-Balla » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:23 pm

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You were fine with playing 5 out with a guy averaging 17ppg on 34/28 in the playoffs and you're telling me to be serious? We're capped out, and Randle was due an extension.


Also, it's not just about KATs averages, it's about the impact he'll have on our spacing.

We aren't a 5 out team at all. You guys said we need to play 5 out now you're pretending I said it we were the strongest interior team in the league for 4 years why the **** are we becoming a team of soft sissies and building the team culture off a career loser like KAT? Same **** that hated Thibs because Thibs tried to make him play hard while he wanted to walk with a switch and squeak while he talked.



Damn bro, you really don't like KAT, I respect the hate but you're gonna look silly when KAT is out there prancing around dropping efficient games left and right while Brunson break dances his way through the lane cause there's no clutter from all the tough juice construction workers looking for rebounds. I hope you go to a game and he blows a kiss to the section you're sitting in, just for extra soft points.

How many year will I be here not looking silly in my predictions before y'all realize I'm not making predictions, I just actually watch a lot of **** basketball so I don't have to do all the guesswork you do in evaluating moves?

https://www.slamonline.com/news/nba/karl-anthony-towns-tom-thibodeaus-player-development-a-slap-in-the-face/

This is the guy we traded for and how he feels about our coach. It's easy to say the beef is squashed when you're not playing for him anymore but his soft ass knows he's not tryna play for Thibs that's why he's so distraught right now and still wearing Wolves gear out publicly.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1665 » by Guano » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:23 pm

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TKKnicks1 wrote:Anyone a bit concerned on how Towns took the trade news? His IG post and then showing up to an event 12 hours later decked out in Wolves gear?! I know its a shock when you get traded but with this dudes history of being soft I'm hoping his emotional state is ready to embrace NY. Last thing we need is a disgruntled star creating drama and locker room tension. This unit has been really gelling last couple of seasons and they don't need that noise right now.


if you made a list of guys not built for new york he'd be close to or at the top. just pray i guess. :lol:


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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1666 » by E-Balla » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:24 pm

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Which is why I got BLopez.



Wolves were 13th defensively the year before they got Gobert, we'll be top 10 with him and the wings helping out.


The Nuggets won the the title as 5th offense and 15th defense.


It could work out. Thibs created some great defenses with Boozer as the weak link. But acting like it's not the main concern now is wild.

He had Noah back there. If we have Mitch it'll work, but it sounds like Mitch wants out now.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1667 » by aggo » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:24 pm

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1668 » by jvsimonetti0514 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:24 pm

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All we did was lose Donte and we replaced Randle with KAT so our rotation shouldn't have gone down from 9 to 7. It depends on how you look at it. Mitch was still injured regardless so we were also going to start Randle with Precious or Jericho before the trade and I still envision Thibs doing that actually. Just because KAT is a better small ball 5 than Randle is doesn't necessarily mean we'll start him there


THIS!!

We replaced 3-time All-Star Julius Randle (who we were at risk of losing for nothing) with FOUR-time All-Star and legit franchise star Karl-Anthony Towns. We replaced DDV with All-Defensive first team player Mikal Bridges. Yet, fans are having a hard time seeing this as an improvement??? :crazy:

Only a few days ago, we were here discussing playing Julius at the 5 or potentially having to start Sims due to Mitch being out. That experiment was NEVER going to work but now, that problem is solved. Also, why is everyone so sure Hart will start? Hart, Deuce, and Mitch (once he returns) could STILL come off the bench just like last season. We may also have one more trick up our sleeve to finish off the roster.

So, the complaints that we're worse now than before are just plain nonsense. Unless you seriously believed we were a legit championship team with Julius and Sims at the 5. :noway:


this man could never carry a team anywhere...legit franchise player ? what the f*ck ?


COVID Julius was obviously a little fluky but he was the first option on a 4th seed! Towns has never had that much success as a number 1 option.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1669 » by Guano » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:25 pm

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Which is why I got BLopez.



Wolves were 13th defensively the year before they got Gobert, we'll be top 10 with him and the wings helping out.


The Nuggets won the the title as 5th offense and 15th defense.


It could work out. Thibs created some great defenses with Boozer as the weak link. But acting like it's not the main concern now is wild.


Bench buckets is also a concern
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1670 » by god shammgod » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:26 pm

it is weird to get traded and then walk around in wolves gear and go back to the training room with your dad for 1 last shoot around. your guy acting like he didn't get broken up with. "i heard she dumped you"....."nuh uh. we're still together." lol
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1671 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:27 pm

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:We haven't even played a game yet and you're implying that we'll be ineffective in 5 out :lol: In no world is a guy that shot 31% from three and demands the ball as much as Randle going to lead to an elite 5 out offense.

You're actually slow. WHY THE **** IS A TEAM PLAYING JOSH HART 48 MINUTES A GAME EVEN ATTEMPTING TO PLAY 5 OUT! THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE GOOD AT OR WHAT WE ARE BUILT FOR! WE ARE THE STRONGEST INTERIOR TEAM IN THE LEAGUE WHY ARE WE TRYING TO BE A WORSE VERSION OF THE CELTICS?


What flexibility? Randle & Mikal are due extensions, we were going to be over the cap no matter what we do. Do you think we'd have $40 million in space to go out and sign somebody if we kept Randle?

Who said anything about keeping Randle or signing somebody? Are you illiterate?

We have $120 million tied up in 4 players right now even before Bridges gets his extension which will kick that up to $160 million. You don't get that we had no other avenues, there are no other big names on the market, there are no free agents, Bridges and KAT are it.

KAT isn't an improvement. We got worse (because we lost Donte and our only bench scorer), lost cap flexibility, and gave up a 1st round pick to do it.


I do think we have improved, for playoff basketball.

Well yes, because you don't watch basketball. This is a you issue.

Our half court offense has been trash in the playoffs, because it relies on junk offense, such as putbacks which really just means you're missing a lot. The second somebody could stop us from getting offensive rebounds our offense fell apart, this move for KAT is to make sure Brunson and Bridges have room to operate and the ball is in Brunsons hands as much as possible.

KAT going 3/19 from deep while we get booted out of the first round because he can't help Brunson while he's getting blown by for easy layups is going to be the ugliest thing I've seen in a while.



Calling someone else slow while having a mental breakdown and writing in all caps cause you don't understand the cap is wonderful. All those exclamation marks too? I bet you're actually upset. You're too old to crash out over KAT like this, I know you're old and washed cause you got "E" in your name, anyone who uses E to emphasize "electronic" when they're online gotta be taking blood pressure medicine and using Ozempic for actual diabetes. Don't stroke out over this, I want to see you eat crow in a few months.


Thinking we had flexibility when Randle was up for an extension and Bridges is due one as well is hilarious. EAD
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1672 » by E-Balla » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:27 pm

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True but if Kyrie doesn't go down and KDs foot isn't in the 3pt line they probably have a championship.

Kyrie is always hurt. Anyone with a brain should've foreseen him getting hurt. I specifically said Kyrie and KD wouldn't work because one was coming off an Achilles and the other played 60 games a season.


All that is true. But I don't see the connection. We are a better well rounded team than the nets.

The connection is Vegas doesn't know **** about basketball. I do. So I don't give e a **** about what Vegas says. KAT is making $60 million soon and has played only 30 more games than Kawhi in the last 5 years.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1673 » by god shammgod » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:27 pm

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1674 » by coachEmily » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:27 pm

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coachEmily wrote:Hello, my team has Donte DiVincenzo!
So just curious Knicks fans what type of ceiling does he have?
He's got such a magically quick release, so maybe he will be Klay Thompson?


Similar enough style on offense and can produce upwards to 20 PPG if he's featured in the offense, but certainly not as good a defender as Klay was in his prime though he can play defense at a competent enough level.

Yessssss! 2025 will be the best year of my life thanks to Donte :o very intoxicating acquisition to put it mildly, and hope his contract is nice and long 8-)
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1675 » by bronxknicksfan1 » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:28 pm

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NoDopeOnSundays wrote:We haven't even played a game yet and you're implying that we'll be ineffective in 5 out :lol: In no world is a guy that shot 31% from three and demands the ball as much as Randle going to lead to an elite 5 out offense.

You're actually slow. WHY THE **** IS A TEAM PLAYING JOSH HART 48 MINUTES A GAME EVEN ATTEMPTING TO PLAY 5 OUT! THAT'S NOT WHAT WE ARE GOOD AT OR WHAT WE ARE BUILT FOR! WE ARE THE STRONGEST INTERIOR TEAM IN THE LEAGUE WHY ARE WE TRYING TO BE A WORSE VERSION OF THE CELTICS?


What flexibility? Randle & Mikal are due extensions, we were going to be over the cap no matter what we do. Do you think we'd have $40 million in space to go out and sign somebody if we kept Randle?

Who said anything about keeping Randle or signing somebody? Are you illiterate?

We have $120 million tied up in 4 players right now even before Bridges gets his extension which will kick that up to $160 million. You don't get that we had no other avenues, there are no other big names on the market, there are no free agents, Bridges and KAT are it.

KAT isn't an improvement. We got worse (because we lost Donte and our only bench scorer), lost cap flexibility, and gave up a 1st round pick to do it.


I do think we have improved, for playoff basketball.

Well yes, because you don't watch basketball. This is a you issue.

Our half court offense has been trash in the playoffs, because it relies on junk offense, such as putbacks which really just means you're missing a lot. The second somebody could stop us from getting offensive rebounds our offense fell apart, this move for KAT is to make sure Brunson and Bridges have room to operate and the ball is in Brunsons hands as much as possible.

KAT going 3/19 from deep while we get booted out of the first round because he can't help Brunson while he's getting blown by for easy layups is going to be the ugliest thing I've seen in a while.


How is a team built for strong interior presence when we don’t have the 2 players that led us to having a strong interior presence? No Mitch to start the season and iHart leaving changes the identity of the team off rip.

Donte wasn’t seeing more than 20-25 min a game if we kept him. He knew that too. That’s why he wasn’t happy. And we’ve over the cap. What flexibility did we have once we gave up all those picks to get Mikal?

KAT has objectively had one inefficient series in his playoff career and that was against the Mavs. He played well against the Suns and Nuggets and was the best defender against Jokic.
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1676 » by Capn'O » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:29 pm

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Wolves were 13th defensively the year before they got Gobert, we'll be top 10 with him and the wings helping out.


The Nuggets won the the title as 5th offense and 15th defense.


It could work out. Thibs created some great defenses with Boozer as the weak link. But acting like it's not the main concern now is wild.

He had Noah back there. If we have Mitch it'll work, but it sounds like Mitch wants out now.


Right. Also, Precious can do a lot of the things that Vanderbilt could so that pairing could have some effectiveness. Mitch or Precious at all times with him and you can run some lineups where we don't lose our edge.

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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1677 » by aggo » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:30 pm

E-Balla wrote:
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E-Balla wrote:Kyrie is always hurt. Anyone with a brain should've foreseen him getting hurt. I specifically said Kyrie and KD wouldn't work because one was coming off an Achilles and the other played 60 games a season.


All that is true. But I don't see the connection. We are a better well rounded team than the nets.

The connection is Vegas doesn't know **** about basketball. I do. So I don't give e a **** about what Vegas says. KAT is making $60 million soon and has played only 30 more games than Kawhi in the last 5 years.

do you see the connection between how many playoff games kat has played over randle tho?
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1678 » by 3toheadmelo » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:31 pm

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god shammgod wrote:trade does feel a little bargs-ish.....not that he's that bad lol

Knicks trading for bargnani went completely away from our identity in 2013. It’s basically the same schit with KAT, but he’s an souped up version of it :lol:


So a souped up version of Bargs is better than Randle? :-?

You mean when Randle destroyed him in January?
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1679 » by koogiking » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:31 pm

I hope this trade works out but Julius Randle has a certain level of grit that I think we'll miss. Hopefully we do better than we did last year though with KAT
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Re: Breaking: KAT to the Knicks 

Post#1680 » by Guano » Sun Sep 29, 2024 5:31 pm

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i can't disagree with any of this. i was trying to be more positive yesterday but i'm having a hard time today. :lol:


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