Trades and Transactions Thread - 2025 Cont'd

[nykballa2k4]

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windy said it will have to be kat for kd

So Nash for head coach?

if we are getting Durant for KAT, I need picks back...

[B8RcDeMktfxC]

AD/KAT/Huk
KAT/AD/OG
OG/MLE (Simmons/Oubre/Trent Jr, Beasley- pick one)/ Dadiet or McCullar
MLE/McBride/ Wright
Brunson/ Wright/ Kolek

Trying to corner the market in Centres who want to only play Power Forward.

[sol537]

3-team trade where KD and picks go to the NYK and KAT goes to PHX. You know Booker’s going to to sign that fat extension and then demand to play with his boy KAT if KD is going out in a trade anyway. We should squeeze every last pick out of them since Ishbia is calling the shots.

[KnixinSix]

3-team trade where KD and picks go to the NYK and KAT goes to PHX. You know Booker’s going to to sign that fat extension and then demand to play with his boy KAT if KD is going out in a trade anyway. We should squeeze every last pick out of them since Ishbia is calling the shots.

This is not a team trying to infuse draft picks into a lineup (though I suppose they can be traded). KAT is 3 years,controlled. KD 1 and then you can lose him for nothing. I like it but not for KAT. For Bridges who also has only 1 year left, Mitch with 1 year left and Hart.

[Fury]

3-team trade where KD and picks go to the NYK and KAT goes to PHX. You know Booker’s going to to sign that fat extension and then demand to play with his boy KAT if KD is going out in a trade anyway. We should squeeze every last pick out of them since Ishbia is calling the shots.

This is not a team trying to infuse draft picks into a lineup (though I suppose they can be traded). KAT is 3 years,controlled. KD 1 and then you can lose him for nothing. I like it but not for KAT. For Bridges who also has only 1 year left, Mitch with 1 year left and Hart.

We cannot afford the depth hit. It’s either KAT or no trade.

[ctorres]

3-team trade where KD and picks go to the NYK and KAT goes to PHX. You know Booker’s going to to sign that fat extension and then demand to play with his boy KAT if KD is going out in a trade anyway. We should squeeze every last pick out of them since Ishbia is calling the shots.

This is not a team trying to infuse draft picks into a lineup (though I suppose they can be traded). KAT is 3 years,controlled. KD 1 and then you can lose him for nothing. I like it but not for KAT. For Bridges who also has only 1 year left, Mitch with 1 year left and Hart.

We cannot afford the depth hit. It’s either KAT or no trade.

KAT to a 3rd team for depth?

What if KAT goes to San Antonio, Durant to NY, and San Antonio sends a collection of players

Wemby and KAT would be niiiice

[Spree2Houston]

Durant has averaged 55 games played a season since 2020 season. I’m not even counting the year he sat out because of his achillies injury. He’s going to be 37 in September and not getting any healthier. The only reason to justify trading for KD would be creating Cap Space next offseason to go after Luka

and kat has averaged 57 in that same time frame

Yeah but KAT is 8 years younger though. Anyway, I'm indifferent if we traded KAT for Durant. It would mean opening up cap space to go after Luka next offseason.

[Fury]

This is not a team trying to infuse draft picks into a lineup (though I suppose they can be traded). KAT is 3 years,controlled. KD 1 and then you can lose him for nothing. I like it but not for KAT. For Bridges who also has only 1 year left, Mitch with 1 year left and Hart.

We cannot afford the depth hit. It’s either KAT or no trade.

KAT to a 3rd team for depth?

What if KAT goes to San Antonio, Durant to NY, and San Antonio sends a collection of players

Wemby and KAT would be niiiice

San Antonio really likes Durant I think so they’d probably just try to nudge us out

[NoDopeOnSundays]

I'm not really as opposed to KD now that we're going to have a new coach, if we were to get him you'd have to treat him like the Clippers treat Kawhi, everything is done to get him to the playoffs healthy, keeping his minutes in check.


That said, why do people just assume he'll want to come here? He has made it pretty clear in the past that he doesn't really rock with us, and he is going to be a free agent after next season. You cannot risk trading for him without an extension, and that also presents a problem, he's not LeBron, at 37 the fall off for him could happen extremely fast and then we're completely dead in the water if it happens. He didn't want to go back to GS, he doesn't strike me as the type to swallow his pride and our fans have made it a point to **** on him for 5 years

[sol537]

If you trade for KD you do so with the understanding that he’d extend at a lower yearly amount year to year or at least one additional year. Then those picks that we’d have to get from PHX could be used for depth trades.

[NoDopeOnSundays]

Thread is getting real crazy, just skimmed the last couple pages we're ending up with Giannis and KD in some posts, AD and KD in others, Trey Muprhy and Giannis in others

[NoDopeOnSundays]

If you trade for KD you do so with the understanding that he’d extend at a lower yearly amount year to year or at least one additional year. Then those picks that we’d have to get from PHX could be used for depth trades.

They aren't giving up picks to trade KD.

[DOT]

The problem with trading KAT for KD is, KD really isn't a better fit on offense

The starting lineup would essentially be swapping KAT and Hart for KD and Mitch. KD took 1 more 3 per game last year than KAT, but Hart took 3 more 3s than Mitch (who takes none lol). So less 3pt shooting

But the real issue is that for as great a 3pt shooter as KD is, him, Mikal, and Brunson are all at their best in the mid range. Among qualified players, they all rank in the top 13 for percentage of shots from 10-16 feet

It wouldn't be a bad fit, but it's too much redundancy. You need some diversification of skillsets. Plus he's 37 and not really a plus on defense, that's not the move to make

I wouldn't absolutely hate a 1:1 swap of him and KAT, but I wouldn't push for it either.

[JayTWill]

When is the last time a 37 year old led a team to a championship with his scoring as a primary option? Kareem in the mid 80's?

Brunson would still be the number 1 option. He's a more well rounded offensive player than Durant at this stage.

KD has basically become an elite shooter. He rarely gets to the rim anymore.

Kareem may be the last 37 year old that scored over 20 points on a championship team. I assume not many teams feature a 37 year old in a scoring role and have championship success. Many all-time great scorers have faded out without winning a title after 35 from Jordan to Lebron.

Lebron, Curry, and Durant still have a chance but watching teams like OKC and the Pacers fly all around the court doesn't give me much confidence in winning a title with questionable depth at the moment, injury prone players and a 37 year old.

[sol537]

That’s why PHX would have to pony up picks as well or hard pass.

[JayTWill]

you have to ask yourself how confident are you really in this current core winning it all ? does playing it safe accomplish what you really want or just give you a longer window of being pretty good but not good enough ?

We do need to make some moves. It all depends what else is out there. And at least for me, have to think of what the plan is after next year with KDd contract. If there's some flexibility in there then it makes more sense, vs if we are screwed and it's just for a one year window I would pass

KD is an upgrade, but not completely sold he is that big of an upgrade. Still a really good player but also on the decline

He would have to agree to an extension of some sort. Knicks haven't operated with letting someone get to free agency.

Similarly we probably know pretty quickly if Mikal is staying or going. He will get his extension if he doesn't take it he will probably be on the trade block (they didn't trade all those picks to risk that). Similar situation with Mitch

The knicks won't be operating as a team under the cap so losing KD 50 MM the following year we won't be able to get cap space from losing him. It would basically go into the abyss.

If they did let KD walk and let Mikal and Mitch walk or traded them for an expiring and some draft assets or cheap players I believe the only major contracts they would have on the books are Brunson and OG for around $80M and Hart's expiring for almost $21M. I see the cap at $170 next offseason.

I'm not suggesting that they should do it but would provide an option to make a true pivot from this current core. They could also trade Hart for an expiring this year and keep Mikal while still having a decent amount of money to throw at another player. There are some options if KD walks I believe.

[mpharris36]

We do need to make some moves. It all depends what else is out there. And at least for me, have to think of what the plan is after next year with KDd contract. If there's some flexibility in there then it makes more sense, vs if we are screwed and it's just for a one year window I would pass

KD is an upgrade, but not completely sold he is that big of an upgrade. Still a really good player but also on the decline

He would have to agree to an extension of some sort. Knicks haven't operated with letting someone get to free agency.

Similarly we probably know pretty quickly if Mikal is staying or going. He will get his extension if he doesn't take it he will probably be on the trade block (they didn't trade all those picks to risk that). Similar situation with Mitch

The knicks won't be operating as a team under the cap so losing KD 50 MM the following year we won't be able to get cap space from losing him. It would basically go into the abyss.

If they did let KD walk and let Mikal and Mitch walk or traded them for an expiring and some draft assets or cheap players I believe the only major contracts they would have on the books are Brunson and OG for around $80M and Hart's expiring for almost $21M. I see the cap at $170 next offseason.

I'm not suggesting that they should do it but would provide an option to make a true pivot from this current core. They could also trade Hart for an expiring this year and keep Mikal while still having a decent amount of money to throw at another player. There are some options if KD walks I believe.

Your basically then trading KAT, Mikal, and Mitch for cap space after next year. That would be a horrible use of resources.

You are extending Bridges or you are recouping a lot of the assets your traded for him. Zero chance they let him walk.

[Context]

Trading for KD is old Knicks that some of you are afraid of. I think KD looks like bad energy if you ask me.

[Barcs]

Trading for KD is old Knicks that some of you are afraid of. I think KD looks like bad energy if you ask me.

Yup. Trading for superstars at the very tail end of their career for the decline is same ol' knicks. Terrifying that they are thinking about moving multiple dudes in their prime for 36 year old KD.

[Context]

Trading for KD is old Knicks that some of you are afraid of. I think KD looks like bad energy if you ask me.

Yup. Trading for superstars at the very tail end of their career for the decline is same ol' knicks. Terrifying that they are thinking about moving multiple dudes in their prime for 36 year old KD.

I dont believe they are thinking about it...