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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1681 » by G I N T » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:19 am

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Since you are an expert in interpreting religious texts you know that the Bible has been used to support everything from slavery to genocide to homophobia. The are plenty of extremist groups from all religions. I know the media has boiled down the problem of terrorism to the stunningly simple "Islam = bad" so that simpletons can pretend they understand how something like this can come to exist.

What you fail to recognize is that Islam exists all over the world and in many progressive societies. Yet the lions share of Islamic terrorism comes from one region of the world. It just so happens that the middle east has a collection of violent dictators and oppressive regimes which breed this sort of thing.

As for the role the US has in all of this, we funded the Taliban and Al-Queda (or the mujahideen which became these groups). We also had a major role in the creation of ISIS through our work in Syria. It has also been our unwavering support of Israel over Palestine, regardless of human rights violations, that put a target on our back.

ISIS members don't go around wearing t-shirts that say "ISIS member". Trump's master plan is to bomb the region until somehow ISIS unravels. This mean collateral damage, the death of many innocent, non-violent muslims which will lead to even more terrorists. That "plan" has literally never worked and is the reason for ISIS in the first place.

What could possibly go wrong?

So what? The only terrorists are all Muslim, so your point about other religious texts mean nothing. I never said "Islam = bad" but rather that "all terrorists = Muslim" which is the simple truth. It's an Islamic problem and anyone who continues to bury their head in the sand and deny it simply doesn't deserve respect.

9/11 hijackers = Muslim, Taliban = Muslim, San Bernardino nuts = Muslim, Fort Hood shooter = Muslim, Paris attack terrorists = Muslim, Pulse nightclub shooter = Muslim, ISIS = Muslim.

The loons chant "Allahu Ahkbar" every time they commit these massacres, and that is a phrase that only Muslims use. So yes, plain and simple, it is a problem with Islam and nothing more.

No, there are no "extremist groups of all religions." What could you possibly point to today that even compares to fanatical Islam? Nothing compares.

And if you have any better ideas other than bombing them to extinction, everyone is all ears. Fact is, Trump's proposed policies definitely make more sense than those of dummies like Clinton and Obama.

What have either of these two done/said to warrant your trust in them to successfully defeat Islamic terrorism? They look like total failures to me.




You a full CLOWN. You also need to stop hiding your racism by cute little words. Your intelligence level is weak. The only terroists are Muslims? FOH



Terrorist has at its root the word "terror," which comes from the Latin word terrorem, meaning great fear. Great fear is exactly what terrorists hope to create so they can manipulate the situation to their benefit.



This is what a terrorist looks like as well clown. Since your either very biased, or dumb... this is Dylan Roof, who went inside of a black church and killed 9 people Just last year.


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I have no choice. I am not in the position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight. I chose Charleston because it is most historic city in my state, and at one time had the highest ratio of blacks to Whites in the country. We have no skinheads, no real KKK, no one doing anything but talking on the internet. Well someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world, and I guess that has to be me.





Its obvious that your a racist clown, who is trying to sound intelligent, but to anyone who has any real intelligence, you look like a fool saying the dumb ****.


I can post a bunch more non Muslims that are terrorists and carried out terrorists acts. The fact is the majority of those who have committed terrorist acts in this country have been white people. Clowns like you is why I never stick my head into this thread. I can easily destroy most weak ****, but just fall back.... dont have time to waste with fools.


FOH

You are not too bright from what it sounds like. :lol: You also clearly don't have a firm grasp on the definition of "racism," as nothing in my posts hinted at prejudice towards any particular race. You sound a lot like the dummies on CNN with your defending of extreme Islam, and it's no surprise that inept fools like Obama (and potentially Hillary) get elected due to the disturbingly high number of people who share your dumb views and who use your comically illogical reasoning.

There is no cult-like terrorist group that consistently carries out massacres and intentionally targets areas of highly populated innocents the way the extremist Muslims do. The common factor all these nutjobs have is that they pledge their allegiance to a fanatic Muslim group, mostly ISIS, and they are all of the Muslim faith. Isolated incidents of previous gun violence do not show a consistent, common and recurring pattern the way jihad attacks do. Feel free to label them as "terrorism" all you want to, which completely misses the point, but then you may as well label every act of murder an act of "terrorism." Sorry, that's not how it works. Good try at splitting hairs with definitions, however.

Your idiotic comparisons to other mass shootings have exactly what relevance here? Earlier you use examples from a century ago in the 1910s and 1920s regarding white on black violence... what the f are you even talking about? We are living in 2016 here. Get with the times. Debating liberals is like trying to debate a 4 year old. Why is this country so heavily populated with unintelligent liberals??? :banghead:
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1682 » by BRIGGS » Tue Jun 14, 2016 5:42 am

If you read about this killer--its obvious he was not a radical Muslim. He was a homosexual who couldnt come to grips with it and finally flipped out. The terror part is all a sham.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1683 » by CJackson » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:26 am

BRIGGS wrote:If you read about this killer--its obvious he was not a radical Muslim. He was a homosexual who couldnt come to grips with it and finally flipped out. The terror part is all a sham.


Don't worry. Trump and all of his looney toon followers will keep appropriating the event as an action by "Radical Islam" to advance their campaign for martial law.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1684 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:43 am

G I N T wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:
G I N T wrote:So what? The only terrorists are all Muslim, so your point about other religious texts mean nothing. I never said "Islam = bad" but rather that "all terrorists = Muslim" which is the simple truth. It's an Islamic problem and anyone who continues to bury their head in the sand and deny it simply doesn't deserve respect.

9/11 hijackers = Muslim, Taliban = Muslim, San Bernardino nuts = Muslim, Fort Hood shooter = Muslim, Paris attack terrorists = Muslim, Pulse nightclub shooter = Muslim, ISIS = Muslim.

The loons chant "Allahu Ahkbar" every time they commit these massacres, and that is a phrase that only Muslims use. So yes, plain and simple, it is a problem with Islam and nothing more.

No, there are no "extremist groups of all religions." What could you possibly point to today that even compares to fanatical Islam? Nothing compares.

And if you have any better ideas other than bombing them to extinction, everyone is all ears. Fact is, Trump's proposed policies definitely make more sense than those of dummies like Clinton and Obama.

What have either of these two done/said to warrant your trust in them to successfully defeat Islamic terrorism? They look like total failures to me.




You a full CLOWN. You also need to stop hiding your racism by cute little words. Your intelligence level is weak. The only terroists are Muslims? FOH



Terrorist has at its root the word "terror," which comes from the Latin word terrorem, meaning great fear. Great fear is exactly what terrorists hope to create so they can manipulate the situation to their benefit.



This is what a terrorist looks like as well clown. Since your either very biased, or dumb... this is Dylan Roof, who went inside of a black church and killed 9 people Just last year.


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in His own Words....


I have no choice. I am not in the position to, alone, go into the ghetto and fight. I chose Charleston because it is most historic city in my state, and at one time had the highest ratio of blacks to Whites in the country. We have no skinheads, no real KKK, no one doing anything but talking on the internet. Well someone has to have the bravery to take it to the real world, and I guess that has to be me.





Its obvious that your a racist clown, who is trying to sound intelligent, but to anyone who has any real intelligence, you look like a fool saying the dumb ****.


I can post a bunch more non Muslims that are terrorists and carried out terrorists acts. The fact is the majority of those who have committed terrorist acts in this country have been white people. Clowns like you is why I never stick my head into this thread. I can easily destroy most weak ****, but just fall back.... dont have time to waste with fools.


FOH

You are not too bright from what it sounds like. :lol: You also clearly don't have a firm grasp on the definition of "racism," as nothing in my posts hinted at prejudice towards any particular race. You sound a lot like the dummies on CNN with your defending of extreme Islam, and it's no surprise that inept fools like Obama (and potentially Hillary) get elected due to the disturbingly high number of people who share your dumb views and who use your comically illogical reasoning.

There is no cult-like terrorist group that consistently carries out massacres and intentionally targets areas of highly populated innocents the way the extremist Muslims do. The common factor all these nutjobs have is that they pledge their allegiance to a fanatic Muslim group, mostly ISIS, and they are all of the Muslim faith. Isolated incidents of previous gun violence do not show a consistent, common and recurring pattern the way jihad attacks do. Feel free to label them as "terrorism" all you want to, which completely misses the point, but then you may as well label every act of murder an act of "terrorism." Sorry, that's not how it works. Good try at splitting hairs with definitions, however.

Your idiotic comparisons to other mass shootings have exactly what relevance here? Earlier you use examples from a century ago in the 1910s and 1920s regarding white on black violence... what the f are you even talking about? We are living in 2016 here. Get with the times. Debating liberals is like trying to debate a 4 year old. Why is this country so heavily populated with unintelligent liberals??? :banghead:



Well keep banging your head clown... I can easily pick apart your BS, which seems to be against whats not white. Im going to keep it short and sweet.


These are your own words



The only terrorists are all Muslim



Islam is mostly non white, and in your head, seems to be the only group of people that can be a terrorist on the WHOLE planet.


Your the typical idiot who would rather label what Dylan Roof did, as a white guy with "mental issues" instead of calling it what it is. I bet if a Muslim went inside of a white church and killed 9 people...you would be quick to label him a terrorist. You would climb MT Everest just to yell that from the top of the summit.


A Cowardly white boy does it, and he is not a terrorist... FOH. Tell that to the families of the people he killed for no other reason than being black. I bet to you, Timothy Mc veigh is just another white dude who simply had a bad day....he not a terrorist either. Your the clown who is actually trying to change the meaning, but your to dumb to see it.

I am not even a Muslim, so I am not defending ****, other than calling out your BS.



I laugh at you calling me a Liberal. **** a Liberal. Its funny that anyone who does not agree with your Muslim Bias, must be a Liberal. :lol: Man Please, I am the farthest from that. I dont even support most of the **** a so called Liberal would support.


like I said.... FOH.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1685 » by CJackson » Tue Jun 14, 2016 6:51 am

As soon as you see someone working "liberals" into every argument you know you have an ideologue on your hands, not an actual thinker. You can't disagree with them about an idea without them using their favorite insult which is "liberal". I'm not even calling them anything other than "Them" because it is not accurate to call them just "right wingers" or "conservatives" when they are so reflexively ready to invoke a vague term. The only label that really works is "Idiots" which is not a political designation, simply a register of their displayed intelligence or lack thereof.
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Post#1686 » by gavran » Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:11 am

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Listen I will just leave this here.... if you care to learn the truth. This is a Doc by the BBC. They are lying about pythagoras being the the father of mathematics, but they are spot on about the moorish history. pythagoras is only the father of mathematics for teh Greeks. These concepts were actually learned in EGYPT by the Greeks and was taught by blacks.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM8HnvuKbAo[/youtube]


You know, just because you repeat the word "fact" a million times, your delusions won't become thruth. Egyptians weren't black and Moor never ruled Europe. The Moors ruled Spain. That's the furthest they've reached, until Charles Martel won the battle of Tours in 732.
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Post#1687 » by alphad0gz » Tue Jun 14, 2016 10:37 am

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IllmaticHandler wrote:Since so many White People are so against Islam....I will drop these FACTS here. Europe was in the DARK AGES until the BLACK MOORS(Islamic) came to Spain and started the renaissance period. Thats Right...what started Europe's age of so called enlightenment, was taught to them by Islamic Moors. Most of Europe did not even know how to farm the Land, until ISLAM came to Europe. Damn near every European Power came to Spain to learn simple things like how to even build plumbing...during this time European "royalty" was defecating on the floor in rooms...did not even understand the concept of plumbing. Who you think taught Europe Mathematics? ISLAM. Do people Know where Algebra comes from???? White people still thought the world was FLAT at this time until Islam came, and showed them otherwise.

Spain was the JEWEL of Europe, and it only became so, when the MOORS (Islam) came there and civilized it.The moors were rewarded by the grateful Europeans, and were kicked out of Spain in 1492...which is the SAME year, Columbus is able to sail the seas and starts European (Christian/ Catholic) Tyranny across the planet. I get that Islam may have a few radical issues with some of its followers, but white people were in the DARK AGES with Christianity, and was only brought out of it by ISLAMIC people.

People are so dumb to actual REAL history....These are all FACTS....



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A lot of what you post is true, but certainly not all of it. What you post that is true would be taken a lot more seriously if it wasn't always posted in the context of "Muslims all great, Christians all bad".

Both are sets of human beings, who both have had highlights and lowlights over the breadth and width of history. And no, I'm not saying that the Muslims are now in a "low period".



Actually thats how YOU interpret it. I am NOT even a Muslim. I have no Dog in this race of Islam Vs Christianity. Im just posting FACTS about history.


Correct. You're race is about exactly that....race. White vs Black. You are transparent as hell and you disgust me. Oh, and by the way, for all the criticism of other peoples intelligence deficiencies, you might want tot look in the mirror. You will be lacking.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1688 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:53 am

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IllmaticHandler wrote:

Listen I will just leave this here.... if you care to learn the truth. This is a Doc by the BBC. They are lying about pythagoras being the the father of mathematics, but they are spot on about the moorish history. pythagoras is only the father of mathematics for teh Greeks. These concepts were actually learned in EGYPT by the Greeks and was taught by blacks.

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM8HnvuKbAo[/youtube]


You know, just because you repeat the word "fact" a million times, your delusions won't become thruth. Egyptians weren't black and Moor never ruled Europe. The Moors ruled Spain. That's the furthest they've reached, until Charles Martel won the battle of Tours in 732.



Focus on the title of the doc. I could careless, I did not tittle it that. PROVE to me what I am saying about the Moors Bringing Europe out of the Dark Ages is INCORRECT. That is the WHOLE point here...you can focus on a title of a documentary all you want, it does NOT disprove anything I am saying about who kicked off the age of enlightenment.


LOL at the Egyptians were not black. Typical person who accepts the`lies as the truth....let me guess, a few Hollywood movies and white washed books gave u that idea. :lol:


Prove to me the Original Egyptians were not BLACK. don't come with race mixing history after they were invade and so much history was destroyed. Yeah a country that is in Africa was not Black....ok buddy. Like I said. PROVE to me the Original Egyptians were not black. That area was called Ethiopia by the Greeks....which basically translates into LAND OF THE BLACK FACES. You must not know of Kush or Nubia...smh.

Your the same type of fake historian who would denounce this History as well.


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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1689 » by gavran » Tue Jun 14, 2016 11:59 am

LOL, the burden on proof is on you buddy, not me, I'm not the one making claims that are false.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1690 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:08 pm

alphad0gz wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:
thebuzzardman wrote:

A lot of what you post is true, but certainly not all of it. What you post that is true would be taken a lot more seriously if it wasn't always posted in the context of "Muslims all great, Christians all bad".

Both are sets of human beings, who both have had highlights and lowlights over the breadth and width of history. And no, I'm not saying that the Muslims are now in a "low period".



Actually thats how YOU interpret it. I am NOT even a Muslim. I have no Dog in this race of Islam Vs Christianity. Im just posting FACTS about history.


Correct. You're race is about exactly that....race. White vs Black. You are transparent as hell and you disgust me. Oh, and by the way, for all the criticism of other peoples intelligence deficiencies, you might want tot look in the mirror. You will be lacking.




I hope I disgust you enough that you throw up your food everytime you eat.... :lol:


All I spoke of was the truth...so of the truth disgusts you, that your problem. Anytime a blackman speaks the truth about actual history that puts everything in its proper context, of course he has to hate white people or is the angry blackman...or as some person stated a "woke militant". To people like you, it shows the insecurity that you have if thats all you can get from FACTS being told.

Im not pro black or anti white. I AM PRO TRUTH. I AM PRO RIGHTEOUSNESS.


I bet if I Told u that thomas edison in not the Inventor of the filament, you know the thing that actually makes the light bulb work and that it was created by lewis latimer a black man....Im the bad guy. I understand. Presenting truth makes me racist. SMH. Like I said. only a person who is insecure or can't accept the truth would think that way.


I bet if you learned about where the term "THE REAL MCOY" comes from...you would run home and cry to mommy.


Im not even going to waste time trying give out actual history, cause the weak will be offended and butt hurt, and want to cry foul like your doing right now.


People can spew all kinds of lies about Muslims, but when the truth hits them...they become transprarent. :lol:
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1691 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:17 pm

gavran wrote:LOL, the burden on proof is on you buddy, not me, I'm not the one making claims that are false.



Cop Out.

Typical response of a person who can't disprove the facts. Telling me I am wrong, does not make me wrong. I can see you have no point ther than you simply want to disagree.


I bet if I made a claim that Ireland was the first country to land on the Moon, you would be quick to show me how I am wrong. But since you can't disprove me on this...the burden of proof is on me. :lol:


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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1692 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:54 pm

Most people believe everything on what the Media says. Shout Out to the people of America, who can critical think, and realize the Sham. Everything is not what it seems.



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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1693 » by G I N T » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:02 pm

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G I N T wrote:
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You a full CLOWN. You also need to stop hiding your racism by cute little words. Your intelligence level is weak. The only terroists are Muslims? FOH






This is what a terrorist looks like as well clown. Since your either very biased, or dumb... this is Dylan Roof, who went inside of a black church and killed 9 people Just last year.


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in His own Words....






Its obvious that your a racist clown, who is trying to sound intelligent, but to anyone who has any real intelligence, you look like a fool saying the dumb ****.


I can post a bunch more non Muslims that are terrorists and carried out terrorists acts. The fact is the majority of those who have committed terrorist acts in this country have been white people. Clowns like you is why I never stick my head into this thread. I can easily destroy most weak ****, but just fall back.... dont have time to waste with fools.


FOH

You are not too bright from what it sounds like. :lol: You also clearly don't have a firm grasp on the definition of "racism," as nothing in my posts hinted at prejudice towards any particular race. You sound a lot like the dummies on CNN with your defending of extreme Islam, and it's no surprise that inept fools like Obama (and potentially Hillary) get elected due to the disturbingly high number of people who share your dumb views and who use your comically illogical reasoning.

There is no cult-like terrorist group that consistently carries out massacres and intentionally targets areas of highly populated innocents the way the extremist Muslims do. The common factor all these nutjobs have is that they pledge their allegiance to a fanatic Muslim group, mostly ISIS, and they are all of the Muslim faith. Isolated incidents of previous gun violence do not show a consistent, common and recurring pattern the way jihad attacks do. Feel free to label them as "terrorism" all you want to, which completely misses the point, but then you may as well label every act of murder an act of "terrorism." Sorry, that's not how it works. Good try at splitting hairs with definitions, however.

Your idiotic comparisons to other mass shootings have exactly what relevance here? Earlier you use examples from a century ago in the 1910s and 1920s regarding white on black violence... what the f are you even talking about? We are living in 2016 here. Get with the times. Debating liberals is like trying to debate a 4 year old. Why is this country so heavily populated with unintelligent liberals??? :banghead:



Well keep banging your head clown... I can easily pick apart your BS, which seems to be against whats not white. Im going to keep it short and sweet.


These are your own words



The only terrorists are all Muslim



Islam is mostly non white, and in your head, seems to be the only group of people that can be a terrorist on the WHOLE planet.


Your the typical idiot who would rather label what Dylan Roof did, as a white guy with "mental issues" instead of calling it what it is. I bet if a Muslim went inside of a white church and killed 9 people...you would be quick to label him a terrorist. You would climb MT Everest just to yell that from the top of the summit.


A Cowardly white boy does it, and he is not a terrorist... FOH. Tell that to the families of the people he killed for no other reason than being black. I bet to you, Timothy Mc veigh is just another white dude who simply had a bad day....he not a terrorist either. Your the clown who is actually trying to change the meaning, but your to dumb to see it.

I am not even a Muslim, so I am not defending ****, other than calling out your BS.



I laugh at you calling me a Liberal. **** a Liberal. Its funny that anyone who does not agree with your Muslim Bias, must be a Liberal. :lol: Man Please, I am the farthest from that. I dont even support most of the **** a so called Liberal would support.


like I said.... FOH.

You've picked apart nothing really. As usual, liberals get crushed when confronted with logic and reason, as you clearly have in this thread when called out on your ridiculous comparisons of this Muslim terrorist attack to stuff that happened in the 1920s. Just a terrible point, and it made no sense at all.

You are the typical idiot who would compare Muslim terrorist attacks to other acts of murder and equate them both as "terrorism." First, they're not you dummy. Second, even if they were (which they aren't), what relevance does that have to the obvious, undeniable point that radical Islam needs to be wiped out completely due to the threat it poses to Western civilization? Every act of murder isn't defined as "terrorism." They are all horrible, unspeakable acts, but the motives behind and common factors of terrorism, aka what these psycho Muslims you hippy liberals are so eager to defend do, are vastly different from other murders.

On another note, the hallmark of a dummy Clinton/Obama supporter is to ignore all facts, logic and reason in order to create a story that fits their agenda. This is why, despite overwhelming and incontrovertible evidence that this terrorist was yet another radicalized Muslim fanatic, you have far-left nutcases now trying to act like this guy was a closet homosexual who did this because he was gay and not because he was an ISIS supporting Muslim terrorist. Sure, that's why...

1) He shouted "Allahu Akhbar" during the shooting
2) His equally nutty father openly supported the Taliban
3) He cheered 9/11 when it happened
4) He bragged about his support for ISIS

Crazy Obama/Clinton supporters... The stupidity never fails to amaze me.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1694 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:09 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:Most people believe everything on what the Media says. Shout Out to the people of America, who can critical think, and realize the Sham. Everything is not what it seems.



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you do know he was in the club for 3 hours correct? 2 am to 5 am.

Also at 3 different points in the night he engaged in fights inside the club with police.

1 time with an undercover cop

a second time with 2 officers (first responders on the scene) that drove him back into the bathroom where he began to hold hostages

finally at around 5 am the swat team decided come in and engaged in another gun fight with the suspect. Do you honestly believe the only bullets to hit innocent people were just from the suspect?
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1695 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:19 pm

G I N T wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:
G I N T wrote:You are not too bright from what it sounds like. :lol: You also clearly don't have a firm grasp on the definition of "racism," as nothing in my posts hinted at prejudice towards any particular race. You sound a lot like the dummies on CNN with your defending of extreme Islam, and it's no surprise that inept fools like Obama (and potentially Hillary) get elected due to the disturbingly high number of people who share your dumb views and who use your comically illogical reasoning.

There is no cult-like terrorist group that consistently carries out massacres and intentionally targets areas of highly populated innocents the way the extremist Muslims do. The common factor all these nutjobs have is that they pledge their allegiance to a fanatic Muslim group, mostly ISIS, and they are all of the Muslim faith. Isolated incidents of previous gun violence do not show a consistent, common and recurring pattern the way jihad attacks do. Feel free to label them as "terrorism" all you want to, which completely misses the point, but then you may as well label every act of murder an act of "terrorism." Sorry, that's not how it works. Good try at splitting hairs with definitions, however.

Your idiotic comparisons to other mass shootings have exactly what relevance here? Earlier you use examples from a century ago in the 1910s and 1920s regarding white on black violence... what the f are you even talking about? We are living in 2016 here. Get with the times. Debating liberals is like trying to debate a 4 year old. Why is this country so heavily populated with unintelligent liberals??? :banghead:



Well keep banging your head clown... I can easily pick apart your BS, which seems to be against whats not white. Im going to keep it short and sweet.


These are your own words



The only terrorists are all Muslim



Islam is mostly non white, and in your head, seems to be the only group of people that can be a terrorist on the WHOLE planet.


Your the typical idiot who would rather label what Dylan Roof did, as a white guy with "mental issues" instead of calling it what it is. I bet if a Muslim went inside of a white church and killed 9 people...you would be quick to label him a terrorist. You would climb MT Everest just to yell that from the top of the summit.


A Cowardly white boy does it, and he is not a terrorist... FOH. Tell that to the families of the people he killed for no other reason than being black. I bet to you, Timothy Mc veigh is just another white dude who simply had a bad day....he not a terrorist either. Your the clown who is actually trying to change the meaning, but your to dumb to see it.

I am not even a Muslim, so I am not defending ****, other than calling out your BS.



I laugh at you calling me a Liberal. **** a Liberal. Its funny that anyone who does not agree with your Muslim Bias, must be a Liberal. :lol: Man Please, I am the farthest from that. I dont even support most of the **** a so called Liberal would support.


like I said.... FOH.

You've picked apart nothing really. As usual, liberals get crushed when confronted with logic and reason, as you clearly have in this thread when called out on your ridiculous comparisons of this Muslim terrorist attack to stuff that happened in the 1920s. Just a terrible point, and it made no sense at all.

You are the typical idiot who would compare Muslim terrorist attacks to other acts of murder and equate them both as "terrorism." First, they're not you dummy. Second, even if they were (which they aren't), what relevance does that have to the obvious, undeniable point that radical Islam needs to be wiped out completely due to the threat it poses to Western civilization? Every act of murder isn't defined as "terrorism." They are all horrible, unspeakable acts, but the motives behind and common factors of terrorism, aka what these psycho Muslims you hippy liberals are so eager to defend do, are vastly different from other murders.

On another note, the hallmark of a dummy Clinton/Obama supporter is to ignore all facts, logic and reason in order to create a story that fits their agenda. This is why, despite overwhelming and incontrovertible evidence that this terrorist was yet another radicalized Muslim fanatic, you have far-left nutcases now trying to act like this guy was a closet homosexual who did this because he was gay and not because he was an ISIS supporting Muslim terrorist. Sure, that's why...

1) He shouted "Allahu Akhbar" during the shooting
2) His equally nutty father openly supported the Taliban
3) He cheered 9/11 when it happened
4) He bragged about his support for ISIS

Crazy Obama/Clinton supporters... The stupidity never fails to amaze me.



LOL. You keep showing how dumb you are. I don't support Clinton, nor Did I vote for Obama. Obama is a sham just like every other president.


Your Whole Argument is that I am a Liberal, and a so called Obama/Clinton supporter. You have nothing else to stand on :lol:
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Post#1696 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jun 14, 2016 1:24 pm

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IllmaticHandler wrote:Most people believe everything on what the Media says. Shout Out to the people of America, who can critical think, and realize the Sham. Everything is not what it seems.



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you do know he was in the club for 3 hours correct? 2 am to 5 am.

Also at 3 different points in the night he engaged in fights inside the club with police.

1 time with an undercover cop

a second time with 2 officers (first responders on the scene) that drove him back into the bathroom where he began to hold hostages

finally at around 5 am the swat team decided come in and engaged in another gun fight with the suspect. Do you honestly believe the only bullets to hit innocent people were just from the suspect?



You do know how long it takes to reload right?

You do know he could have been easily tackled that time right? were talking about hundreds of people. He could have been tackled by the FIRST Reload. This dude was not Jason Bourne. This is not a movie. Dudes can barley rob a Bank with outsome one tackling them. The dude who killed the singer the day before was tackled. We are talking about HUNDREDS of people...

How do you get a AR 15 INTO a club? HOW? does that even make sense to you??


Believe what the media says if you want bro. I don't.


Also ask yourself why there is not one piece of Surveillance footage from that night that even shows what happened before he started shooting
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Donald supporters are something else. So cringey. That donald subreddit is cringe central. It's hilarious to me because It's a bunch of 16-18 year old 4 channers driving the narrative with Donald supporters. Bunch of neck beards trying so hard to be edge lords. SAD!


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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1698 » by mpharris36 » Tue Jun 14, 2016 2:51 pm

IllmaticHandler wrote:
mpharris36 wrote:
IllmaticHandler wrote:Most people believe everything on what the Media says. Shout Out to the people of America, who can critical think, and realize the Sham. Everything is not what it seems.



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you do know he was in the club for 3 hours correct? 2 am to 5 am.

Also at 3 different points in the night he engaged in fights inside the club with police.

1 time with an undercover cop

a second time with 2 officers (first responders on the scene) that drove him back into the bathroom where he began to hold hostages

finally at around 5 am the swat team decided come in and engaged in another gun fight with the suspect. Do you honestly believe the only bullets to hit innocent people were just from the suspect?



You do know how long it takes to reload right?

You do know he could have been easily tackled that time right? were talking about hundreds of people. He could have been tackled by the FIRST Reload. This dude was not Jason Bourne. This is not a movie. Dudes can barley rob a Bank with outsome one tackling them. The dude who killed the singer the day before was tackled. We are talking about HUNDREDS of people...

How do you get a AR 15 INTO a club? HOW? does that even make sense to you??


Believe what the media says if you want bro. I don't.


Also ask yourself why there is not one piece of Surveillance footage from that night that even shows what happened before he started shooting


How do you get an AR 15 into a club? Did you read any of the reports. He walked into the club at 2am just before the club closes. At that time they have no bouncers at the front door because people are usually leaving at that time not coming in so they aren't checking ID's and what not in the front at that time.

They also said he was very well trained with a rifle. Reloading fast and was able to handle himself.

Not that I'm a huge nightclub person. But I have been to a few and you can't hear anything in a club. With the base and such. Many people said they couldn't distinguish what the popping noise was. They just thought it was part of the song. It wasn't until people were running and diving out of the way that people knew what was going on.

Also comparing it to 1 crazy dude that wanted to kill a 22 year old girl with a small handgun? really man. The dude had a semi automatic long gun. It would take a lot of balls to make a run at a dude standing in front of a doorway with a freakin assault rifle peppering the crowd.

This wasn't some NYC club that has a fancy entrance and stuff. The door into the place leads right to the dance floor. They are like 5 feet away from the entrance. He basically stepped in and started shooting.

The only way someone could have possibly stopped him was someone followed him from behind and tackled him from the back. Assuming people were outside. And again asking an civilian to run towards gun shots is a lot to ask...honestly no one knows what they would do unless they are put in that situation. You can believe you might do one thing. But if you and your significant other are out of the club why would you run back in?
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1699 » by IllmaticHandler » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:05 pm

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you do know he was in the club for 3 hours correct? 2 am to 5 am.

Also at 3 different points in the night he engaged in fights inside the club with police.

1 time with an undercover cop

a second time with 2 officers (first responders on the scene) that drove him back into the bathroom where he began to hold hostages

finally at around 5 am the swat team decided come in and engaged in another gun fight with the suspect. Do you honestly believe the only bullets to hit innocent people were just from the suspect?



You do know how long it takes to reload right?

You do know he could have been easily tackled that time right? were talking about hundreds of people. He could have been tackled by the FIRST Reload. This dude was not Jason Bourne. This is not a movie. Dudes can barley rob a Bank with outsome one tackling them. The dude who killed the singer the day before was tackled. We are talking about HUNDREDS of people...

How do you get a AR 15 INTO a club? HOW? does that even make sense to you??


Believe what the media says if you want bro. I don't.


Also ask yourself why there is not one piece of Surveillance footage from that night that even shows what happened before he started shooting


How do you get an AR 15 into a club? Did you read any of the reports. He walked into the club at 2am just before the club closes. At that time they have no bouncers at the front door because people are usually leaving at that time not coming in so they aren't checking ID's and what not in the front at that time.

They also said he was very well trained with a rifle. Reloading fast and was able to handle himself.

Not that I'm a huge nightclub person. But I have been to a few and you can't hear anything in a club. With the base and such. Many people said they couldn't distinguish what the popping noise was. They just thought it was part of the song. It wasn't until people were running and diving out of the way that people knew what was going on.

Also comparing it to 1 crazy dude that wanted to kill a 22 year old girl with a small handgun? really man. The dude had a semi automatic long gun. It would take a lot of balls to make a run at a dude standing in front of a doorway with a freakin assault rifle peppering the crowd.

This wasn't some NYC club that has a fancy entrance and stuff. The door into the place leads right to the dance floor. They are like 5 feet away from the entrance. He basically stepped in and started shooting.

The only way someone could have possibly stopped him was someone followed him from behind and tackled him from the back. Assuming people were outside. And again asking an civilian to run towards gun shots is a lot to ask...honestly no one knows what they would do unless they are put in that situation. You can believe you might do one thing. But if you and your significant other are out of the club why would you run back in?


I saw those reports. Show me the footage of him entering the club I say. You seriously are just going to accept EVERYTHING the Media is telling you as fact? There is not one bit of evidence to even back up anything your saying. Basically your reporting hearsay.

Troy Ave was shooting in a club and they INSTANTLY had footage. If you know about clubs, ALL have Cameras. They said they was the TOP club there. Also what Club takes Bouncers off the Door? Small BARS don't even really do that.This was not some kinky dink club at all from the reports. All cubs have cameras at the entrance


They are saying he is Gay, but he has ties to ISIS? since when do Gay dudes have ties to ISIS? There is all Kinds of BS to me in regards to this case. Since when do Gay Dudes get mad, and Shoot up Gay Clubs? Being a Gay Muslim is extremely rare in this country, let alone one who has ties to ISIS AND shoots up a club.


Like I said Bro. You can choose to rationalize everything the media is saying, but if your a critical thinker, there is no way you can't see all the flaws in this story from how its actually being reported. I personally choose to not accept the version thats being reported.
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Re: OT. The Donald Trump (and Politics) Momentum Thread 

Post#1700 » by thebuzzardman » Tue Jun 14, 2016 3:41 pm

Someone got a gun into the club, even if as part of some vast conspiracy you are hinting at. Also, you think the crowd is going to rush a guy with an automatic weapon who just finished killing scores of people around you, while they are deafened by the shooting and in shock? So, they guy drops a mag and slaps another one in; takes about 5 seconds, to include pulling the charging handle back and letting the bolt fly home. These clubs goers were supposed to be Hollywood action heros in that time?

Wait, I get it. This is some government action where there multiple shooters, only no one at the club is on record saying that, in spite of dozens of them being on social media. Ah, they must all be crisis actors. I guess the Tampa spec ops command had a casting call for gay actors. COVERUP!
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