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Cavs team is sus man
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ezmoney707 wrote:Cavs team is sus man
I don't think I have ever seen a rebounding disparity like this game
73 to 39
bulls have 25 offensive rebounds
we murdered them on the glass in the playoffs last year I'm not scared of facing them because we would murder them on the glass...there bigs are soft. Good defenders but they aren't physical.
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mpharris36 wrote:ezmoney707 wrote:Cavs team is sus man
I don't think I have ever seen a rebounding disparity like this game
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bulls have 25 offensive rebounds
we murdered them on the glass in the playoffs last year I'm not scared of facing them because we would murder them on the glass...there bigs are soft. Good defenders but they aren't physical.
Nuts, never seen that disparity before either, that team is Soft, if anything we should angle to get that 1st round matchup instead worrying about seeding.
They’ve had one quality win this month (I’m not counting that miracle game winner from last month either
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We should have traded for Drummond
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IQ has had some good games since the break. Really love how he contributes on the boards.
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robillionaire wrote:We should have traded for Drummond
Guano was right
They never listen to me.
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ezmoney707 wrote:Cavs team is sus man
We might be the first 7 seed ever to be favorites in the first round.
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KnicksGod wrote:Tatum is pretty great but that team is loaded
It’s amazing what can happen when the coach doesn’t play everyone into the ground.
Hopewe get to see that here.
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robillionaire wrote:We should have traded for Drummond
Guano was right
Washington looking good in Dallas but Precious was sort of free.
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nykballa2k4 wrote:FrozenEnvelope wrote:
100%! Nothing worse than talking basketball with a young fan who clearly doesn't and hasn't watched the game much and goes mostly by stats!
Shaq pulling the race card because he can't think of anything smart to say![]()
Loved Shaq the player, but no one is Shaqtin more a fool than he is with his trash takes.
Remember when the panel was talking Knicks he said we could not compete with the Cavs.
Of course you can say that statistics don't guarantee that player x will actually make an impact on the team, but according to his argument you wouldn't need a coach. Just go out and play. Great advice! Even the best players can be the worst talent scouts. Example A


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KnicksGadfly wrote:IQ has had some good games since the break. Really love how he contributes on the boards.
Barrett too. But Toronto are maxed out and outmatched talent-wise.
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Unless the Knicks somehow magically are at full strength by then, the Celtics will have the easiest road to the finals in recent memory.
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spree2kawhi wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:IQ has had some good games since the break. Really love how he contributes on the boards.
Barrett too. But Toronto are maxed out and outmatched talent-wise.
Yah. They’re placing a big bet on Scottie Barnes to be the guy. I think it’s the only way this works out.
They have some smaller bets on RJ and IQ too, but none of it matters if Barnes isn’t the star they envision.
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spree2kawhi wrote:KnicksGadfly wrote:IQ has had some good games since the break. Really love how he contributes on the boards.
Barrett too. But Toronto are maxed out and outmatched talent-wise.
I don‘t watch them much but from what I see they are just a good team. IQ is a good to very good player, but not an IT guy.
Same with RJ and his style is a bit cloggy to flow but maybe he can turn into a slower Jimmy Butler as he is still so young.
They need time together to really tell what they are and have.
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nykballa2k4 wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:nykballa2k4 wrote:
Shaq pulling the race card because he can't think of anything smart to say![]()
Loved Shaq the player, but no one is Shaqtin more a fool than he is with his trash takes.
Remember when the panel was talking Knicks he said we could not compete with the Cavs.
Lefkoe and Shaq are friends off camera, so he was messing with him, but that was a cringe thing to say on TV regardless.like chill bruh save that for behind the scenes
To his point, I think data is a great tool to use, but there's nuances to the game that you really can't quantify and there has to be a balance. I've seen guys who are analytically elite shooters sh*t their pants in big moments and guys who aren't hit huge shots against the odds. Every situation is different, every game flows differently, and analytical data doesn't factor in the fact that these guys are human beings.
I mean I have had a sig for a decade stating my opinion on stats![]()
Stats are often the objective piece, but you have to discuss the subjective.
I had a friend who would debate Kobe and basically due to poor efficiency, categorized him as the #2 to Pau. There are things like gravity etc that star players, superstar players, have that influence the quality of shots for others that simple stats don't account for.
Kobe being #2 to Pau due to efficiency is insane.
By that logic, Ant-Man is #2 to Rudy Gobert because Rudy is highly efficient.
You brought up a great point: GRAVITY. How do you quantify that? It's a real thing in basketball that literally determines the outcomes of possessions. There's no stat or metric for it as far as I know, yet it impacts literally every trip down the floor offensively. Along with gravity from players that can score at a high level, spacing is also impacted by guys that can shoot efficiently.
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Cavs had to play Mitchell and Garland 44 minutes each to beat the Bulls. Maybe they'll get burned out too by the playoffs lol. I'd take that matchup again
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MrDollarBills wrote:nykballa2k4 wrote:MrDollarBills wrote:
Lefkoe and Shaq are friends off camera, so he was messing with him, but that was a cringe thing to say on TV regardless.like chill bruh save that for behind the scenes
To his point, I think data is a great tool to use, but there's nuances to the game that you really can't quantify and there has to be a balance. I've seen guys who are analytically elite shooters sh*t their pants in big moments and guys who aren't hit huge shots against the odds. Every situation is different, every game flows differently, and analytical data doesn't factor in the fact that these guys are human beings.
I mean I have had a sig for a decade stating my opinion on stats![]()
Stats are often the objective piece, but you have to discuss the subjective.
I had a friend who would debate Kobe and basically due to poor efficiency, categorized him as the #2 to Pau. There are things like gravity etc that star players, superstar players, have that influence the quality of shots for others that simple stats don't account for.
Kobe being #2 to Pau due to efficiency is insane.
By that logic, Ant-Man is #2 to Rudy Gobert because Rudy is highly efficient.
You brought up a great point: GRAVITY. How do you quantify that? It's a real thing in basketball that literally determines the outcomes of possessions. There's no stat or metric for it as far as I know, yet it impacts literally every trip down the floor offensively. Along with gravity from players that can score at a high level, spacing is also impacted by guys that can shoot efficiently.
Gravity is a reason Randle is still here instead of Obi
despite all the clamouring that Obi was better for the team because he ran out for a couple of dunks. It's one of the most important parts of building a team
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KnicksGod wrote:jvsimonetti0514 wrote:Zion might be a worse defender than Bojan. The guy barely moves on defense.
He just isn’t very good
Pacer targeted him the whole 4th quarter and he refused to even try to work through a screen or even follow his man through an action. It was pretty embarrassing.
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cgmw wrote:ezmoney707 wrote:Cavs team is sus man
We might be the first 7 seed ever to be favorites in the first round.
Knicks will lose the play in game, after they wind up with the 9th seed.















