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Around the NBA 2025-26 - Vol 2... Hard Knock Season

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Re: Around the NBA 2025-26 - Vol 2... Hard Knock Season 

Post#1681 » by Guano » Today 6:34 pm

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All this was maneuvering to fit in KAT, right?

KAT so completely not worth it

That's not true. They could have drafted and kept both. It was related to them still hoping to keep Ihart if anything.

blame overpaying OG if we're acting like a few mil made a difference in the Kat trade - but it didn't.

the team has simply been bad at having any foresight in the draft. they made just as bad decisions punting on Duren/J Dub in order to sign brunson (there were absolutely other ways to free up the money)

but going back to Ihart, the team absolutely was still holding out hope he would resign up until the very end. they potentially make different moves if they knew he was gone earlier in the process.


Blame mitch... holding onto a contract for a giy that plays 10 mins a night every few days.

Blame kat who is shooting 40&30 while giving us terrible defense

Blame cokehead aller for mismanaging the cap

Blame our scouting department for wasted picks

Leave og alone. He is perfect.
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Post#1682 » by thebuzzardman » Today 6:37 pm

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All this was maneuvering to fit in KAT, right?

KAT so completely not worth it

That's not true. They could have drafted and kept both. It was related to them still hoping to keep Ihart if anything.

blame overpaying OG if we're acting like a few mil made a difference in the Kat trade - but it didn't.

the team has simply been bad at having any foresight in the draft. they made just as bad decisions punting on Duren/J Dub in order to sign brunson (there were absolutely other ways to free up the money)

but going back to Ihart, the team absolutely was still holding out hope he would resign up until the very end. they potentially make different moves if they knew he was gone earlier in the process.


If the other ways to free up money for Brunson were so easy and inconsequential, with one of the best capologists in the league, if not the best, why didn't they do it?

This might be because of iHart.

I'm certainly tired of them getting cute and trading down in the draft all the time just to take players that suck.

Duren etc I get. That was them landing their franchise player.
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Post#1683 » by thebuzzardman » Today 6:38 pm

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All this was maneuvering to fit in KAT, right?

KAT so completely not worth it

That's not true. They could have drafted and kept both. It was related to them still hoping to keep Ihart if anything.

blame overpaying OG if we're acting like a few mil made a difference in the Kat trade - but it didn't.

the team has simply been bad at having any foresight in the draft. they made just as bad decisions punting on Duren/J Dub in order to sign brunson (there were absolutely other ways to free up the money)

but going back to Ihart, the team absolutely was still holding out hope he would resign up until the very end. they potentially make different moves if they knew he was gone earlier in the process.


Blame mitch... holding onto a contract for a giy that plays 10 mins a night every few days.

Blame kat who is shooting 40&30 while giving us terrible defense

Blame cokehead aller for mismanaging the cap

Blame our scouting department for wasted picks

Leave og alone. He is perfect.


40 million per perfect? Probably not. But that's the NBA. GM's have to know when it's time to overpay and when it isn't.
I think OG is one of the times a GM does it.

KAT isn't.
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Post#1684 » by Guano » Today 6:42 pm

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kNicksGmen wrote:That's not true. They could have drafted and kept both. It was related to them still hoping to keep Ihart if anything.

blame overpaying OG if we're acting like a few mil made a difference in the Kat trade - but it didn't.

the team has simply been bad at having any foresight in the draft. they made just as bad decisions punting on Duren/J Dub in order to sign brunson (there were absolutely other ways to free up the money)

but going back to Ihart, the team absolutely was still holding out hope he would resign up until the very end. they potentially make different moves if they knew he was gone earlier in the process.


Blame mitch... holding onto a contract for a giy that plays 10 mins a night every few days.

Blame kat who is shooting 40&30 while giving us terrible defense

Blame cokehead aller for mismanaging the cap

Blame our scouting department for wasted picks

Leave og alone. He is perfect.


40 million per perfect? Probably not. But that's the NBA. GM's have to know when it's time to overpay and when it isn't.
I think OG is one of the times a GM does it.

KAT isn't.


Its a collective problem with our role players and we could point at mikal, og, mitch or jHart.

fcking up our draft picks for any of these players prolly isnt worth it. Especially the last two.
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Post#1685 » by spree2kawhi » Today 6:43 pm

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All this was maneuvering to fit in KAT, right?

KAT so completely not worth it

Towns had 35 points in only the first half of a game last week :lol: Meanwhile, the player we traded for him is quickly trending downwards, single-handedly and quite literally fumbling yesterday’s game in typical fashion for them - and, remarkably, shooting only 28.3 3P% over his last 10 games - even Towns’s all-time low currently edges that - ouch…
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Post#1686 » by spree2kawhi » Today 6:55 pm

Just making sure we don’t hear too much of this nonsense anymore… over their last ten games:

Towns: 23.3 ppg, 12.8 rpg, 31.1 3P%,
Random other player: 23.2 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 28.3 3P%
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Post#1687 » by 3toheadmelo » Today 7:00 pm

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kNicksGmen wrote:That's not true. They could have drafted and kept both. It was related to them still hoping to keep Ihart if anything.

blame overpaying OG if we're acting like a few mil made a difference in the Kat trade - but it didn't.

the team has simply been bad at having any foresight in the draft. they made just as bad decisions punting on Duren/J Dub in order to sign brunson (there were absolutely other ways to free up the money)

but going back to Ihart, the team absolutely was still holding out hope he would resign up until the very end. they potentially make different moves if they knew he was gone earlier in the process.


Blame mitch... holding onto a contract for a giy that plays 10 mins a night every few days.

Blame kat who is shooting 40&30 while giving us terrible defense

Blame cokehead aller for mismanaging the cap

Blame our scouting department for wasted picks

Leave og alone. He is perfect.


40 million per perfect? Probably not. But that's the NBA. GM's have to know when it's time to overpay and when it isn't.
I think OG is one of the times a GM does it.

KAT isn't.

you just don't trade for kat if you want to win a chip. he's an expensive empty stats player.
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Post#1688 » by 3toheadmelo » Today 7:00 pm

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Youre doung everything you can to duck the randle smoke after he sht the bed against dilon brooks, eh
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Post#1690 » by 3toheadmelo » Today 7:08 pm

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Youre doung everything you can to duck the randle smoke after he sht the bed against dilon brooks, eh

sorry bro this thread we do not talk about ex knicks only around the nba players so i have no idea what you're talking about but i love you too!!
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Post#1691 » by spree2kawhi » Today 7:08 pm

Harden with 35 in the first half. Sounds familiar.
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Post#1692 » by spree2kawhi » Today 7:34 pm

Clippers announcer just said Lamelo Ball hasn’t ever played 7 consecutive games :o
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Post#1693 » by gavran » Today 8:11 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:Clippers announcer just said Lamelo Ball hasn’t ever played 7 consecutive games :o

Well, he did
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Post#1694 » by Guano » Today 8:35 pm

Rob our boy got a lil swag
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Post#1695 » by robillionaire » 49 minutes ago

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Looks like it’s too late for us to trade for him. This is why you gotta strike while the iron is hot. Leon….
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Post#1696 » by thebuzzardman » 49 minutes ago

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All this was maneuvering to fit in KAT, right?

KAT so completely not worth it

Towns had 35 points in only the first half of a game last week :lol: Meanwhile, the player we traded for him is quickly trending downwards, single-handedly and quite literally fumbling yesterday’s game in typical fashion for them - and, remarkably, shooting only 28.3 3P% over his last 10 games - even Towns’s all-time low currently edges that - ouch…


This isn't a pro Randle remark. Towns is really good. I'm not sure he's 60 million per, cost a pick, cost Donte good (And Donte isn't great)
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Post#1697 » by thebuzzardman » 45 minutes ago

3toheadmelo wrote:
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Blame mitch... holding onto a contract for a giy that plays 10 mins a night every few days.

Blame kat who is shooting 40&30 while giving us terrible defense

Blame cokehead aller for mismanaging the cap

Blame our scouting department for wasted picks

Leave og alone. He is perfect.


40 million per perfect? Probably not. But that's the NBA. GM's have to know when it's time to overpay and when it isn't.
I think OG is one of the times a GM does it.

KAT isn't.

you just don't trade for kat if you want to win a chip. he's an expensive empty stats player.


That's a little harsh.

More like he's paid like he's a franchise cornerstone - which happens in the NBA, I get that, and he needs the ball a lot on offense to justify his price, but he's also not a truly dominant offensive player, and don't anyone bring up stats. I'm talking impact and gravity.

He's more like a really really good 2nd option. 60 million per is too much for that.

Knicks figured it was worth it because he'd bring a chip.
I think that's flawed logic/GM'ing.

And I was glad to get him, but he's a zero on defense and he's just not that special on offense.

Like, even prime John Wall, when he got 50 million, wasn't worth it.
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Post#1698 » by ctorres » 26 minutes ago

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Never mind the West I worry we're at a disadvantage to younger more athletic Detroit and Orlando.


I didn't get around to mentioning them but I agree. Their skill level and experience (both of which they did not have last season) is now catching up this season.

Watching Raptors tonight and lately I'm almost ready to add them to the list. Big frontline of Barnes Ingram and Poeltl, RJ a big SG, IQ playing well. They picked up Mamu the guy who had a huge game for the Spurs against Knicks last year. May be in a position to make an impactful trade this year. I thought they'd be a play in team this year but looking more like a top 6 team early on.

Wizards making them look good tonight but they've had some quality wins too


I would just go ahead and add Toronto at this point, they fit the mold too

We always say playoffs is about matchups. I am very concerned with how these Knicks matchup. The rest of the league is catching up fast.
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Post#1699 » by 3toheadmelo » 23 minutes ago

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40 million per perfect? Probably not. But that's the NBA. GM's have to know when it's time to overpay and when it isn't.
I think OG is one of the times a GM does it.

KAT isn't.

you just don't trade for kat if you want to win a chip. he's an expensive empty stats player.


That's a little harsh.

More like he's paid like he's a franchise cornerstone - which happens in the NBA, I get that, and he needs the ball a lot on offense to justify his price, but he's also not a truly dominant offensive player, and don't anyone bring up stats. I'm talking impact and gravity.

He's more like a really really good 2nd option. 60 million per is too much for that.

Knicks figured it was worth it because he'd bring a chip.
I think that's flawed logic/GM'ing.

And I was glad to get him, but he's a zero on defense and he's just not that special on offense.

Like, even prime John Wall, when he got 50 million, wasn't worth it.

i know im just rage baiting :lol:

hes being paid superstar money when hes really a 2nd-3rd option type player so we're kind of fked unless he starts playing much better.. which i dont think is gonna happen under mike brown
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Post#1700 » by spree2kawhi » 5 minutes ago

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All this was maneuvering to fit in KAT, right?

KAT so completely not worth it

Towns had 35 points in only the first half of a game last week :lol: Meanwhile, the player we traded for him is quickly trending downwards, single-handedly and quite literally fumbling yesterday’s game in typical fashion for them - and, remarkably, shooting only 28.3 3P% over his last 10 games - even Towns’s all-time low currently edges that - ouch…


This isn't a pro Randle remark. Towns is really good. I'm not sure he's 60 million per, cost a pick, cost Donte good (And Donte isn't great)

Don’t get me wrong, but I sense this is the cup half empty perspective. IMO, the bigger picture is that other teams don’t have perfect bigs either. Name a better big in the NBA outside of Jokic, Giannis, Wemby, Sengun… Mobley perhaps, Banchero maybe, but it looks like he may not even be there yet, so we’re talking top 5 or 6 in the entire league. It would be easy (and quite cliche) to point at Mobley and say, “Look, he plays defense, so we suck!”, but KAT’s basketball IQ, scoring, rebounding, passing and most importantly shooting have all been major upgrades for us. I don’t understand the readiness to give up on him whenever another team wins a game. He is a top player at his position. Banchero is shooting 25% from three, Randle 28% over his last ten as I pointed out, and someone like JJJ is averaging 5 (!) rebounds per game etc. I mean those are frustrating players in their own right.

Needless to say, none of the players above have been averaging 39.8% from three for ten years, it’s not even close.

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