Phil can GTFO out now *** PJ willing to deal KP per Woj.

[nedleeds]

Marquese Chriss is a tweener turd. The missing 3rd Morris brother. If KP said he'd rather be castrated than play for the Knicks and really pushed a trade I would consider 4, Booker, the Dragon and an unprotected 1st next year. Not a drop less. KPs leverage is a little limited because FIBA honors NBA contracts. I personally think this is all the media just stirring **** and Phil is being a golem as usual and not communicating clearly because he thinks he's some deity and media relations is above him.

[Guano]

Taking this to the KP thread...

that's exactly the rumor repeated by more than one person. that the front office is now setting up kp to be the fall guy. it's a self preservation thing.

I understand that. By the same token, all of the criticism coming at KP right now is a direct result of his own actions and words and not at all from anything coming from the team. He missed the meeting, he blew off calls, he has been confirming all the rumors of his dissatisfaction on social media, and he has been confirming that he has not reached out to the org himself after all this.

What he did with that IG post yesterday pissed me off more than anything he'd done yet. If he had half a brain he'd know that the initial rumors yesterday were coming from the standpoint of the opposition. And if he didn't have a brain but had half a degree of sense he would have called and asked. Howard Beck was able to talk directly to somebody in Knick management. Lord knows he could have, as well.

As others have suggested, the Knicks are likely setting up numerous smokescreens with their draft process and fielding these calls to bring in suitors for any number of other deals they may want to bring in help. Their incredibly high asking price keeps interested parties on the phone. Him confirming his dissatisfaction did the Knicks brass no favors/leverage in their own negotiations. If his goal was to force himself out of NY, he may have accomplished just that.



Phil's treatment of Melo was a real problem but to date it's been separate from how they treated literally anyone else on the team. Hell, Rose went AWOL and all they had for him was praise for whatever reason.

I have a hard time holding KP or even Melo accountable for the toxic situation that this organization is in right now. PJ is the architect and the head of this show. While KP is showing his immaturity in handling some of the things that have transpired PJ is the person in power that let this situation get to this point. He is the focal point of accountability.

[god shammgod]

listen, in general, i reject the idea that these guys are constantly making stuff up. are stories sometimes sensationalized ? sure. but there remains truth in them almost always. and sometimes they get bad info from people who are spreading stuff for some kind of advantage. but they would stop going to these people for info once they knew that. they actually care about their reputation because it keeps them employed. they're not writing fan fiction for fun. they usually work for very large companies and if word got around that they were fabricating stories out of thin air they wouldn't last long in the business.

While I agree more with you than the idea that it's a purposeful fabrication, your point held a lot more weight before last November (being serious).

i don't know that the world of sports reporting is the same. they actually still have some journalistic principles.

[Yankeeknickfan]

Cryptic Instagram posts?

[god shammgod]

Taking this to the KP thread...

that's exactly the rumor repeated by more than one person. that the front office is now setting up kp to be the fall guy. it's a self preservation thing.

I understand that. By the same token, all of the criticism coming at KP right now is a direct result of his own actions and words and not at all from anything coming from the team. He missed the meeting, he blew off calls, he has been confirming all the rumors of his dissatisfaction on social media, and he has been confirming that he has not reached out to the org himself after all this.

What he did with that IG post yesterday pissed me off more than anything he'd done yet. If he had half a brain he'd know that the initial rumors yesterday were coming from the standpoint of the opposition. And if he didn't have a brain but had half a degree of sense he would have called and asked. Howard Beck was able to talk directly to somebody in Knick management. Lord knows he could have, as well.

As others have suggested, the Knicks are likely setting up numerous smokescreens with their draft process and fielding these calls to bring in suitors for any number of other deals they may want to bring in help. Their incredibly high asking price keeps interested parties on the phone. Him confirming his dissatisfaction did the Knicks brass no favors/leverage in their own negotiations. If his goal was to force himself out of NY, he may have accomplished just that.



Phil's treatment of Melo was a real problem but to date it's been separate from how they treated literally anyone else on the team. Hell, Rose went AWOL and all they had for him was praise for whatever reason.

I have a hard time holding KP or even Melo accountable for the toxic situation that this organization is in right now. PJ is the architect and the head of this show. While KP is showing his immaturity in handling some of the things that have transpired PJ is the person in power that let this situation get to this point. He is the focal point of accountability.

now you've made guano respond seriously. ban everyone capn'o, starting with yourself.

[mpharris36]

listen, in general, i reject the idea that these guys are constantly making stuff up. are stories sometimes sensationalized ? sure. but there remains truth in them almost always. and sometimes they get bad info from people who are spreading this info for some kind of advantage. but they would stop going to these people for info once they knew that. they actually care about their reputation because it keeps them employed. they're not writing fan fiction for fun. they usually work for very large companies and if word got around that they were fabricating stories out of thin air they wouldn't last long in the business.

its very hard to fact check "sources". Chriss name came from this dude. So he was the only one to get the scoop?

The booker and #4 was passed though a lot of media outlets...he is the only one mentioning chriss...it makes no sense to me.

We are in a different media market. Headlines and tweets to catch peoples attentions and get hits. There is way to much opinionated pieces and a lot less sourcing in todays media.

[Guano]

Taking this to the KP thread...



I understand that. By the same token, all of the criticism coming at KP right now is a direct result of his own actions and words and not at all from anything coming from the team. He missed the meeting, he blew off calls, he has been confirming all the rumors of his dissatisfaction on social media, and he has been confirming that he has not reached out to the org himself after all this.

What he did with that IG post yesterday pissed me off more than anything he'd done yet. If he had half a brain he'd know that the initial rumors yesterday were coming from the standpoint of the opposition. And if he didn't have a brain but had half a degree of sense he would have called and asked. Howard Beck was able to talk directly to somebody in Knick management. Lord knows he could have, as well.

As others have suggested, the Knicks are likely setting up numerous smokescreens with their draft process and fielding these calls to bring in suitors for any number of other deals they may want to bring in help. Their incredibly high asking price keeps interested parties on the phone. Him confirming his dissatisfaction did the Knicks brass no favors/leverage in their own negotiations. If his goal was to force himself out of NY, he may have accomplished just that.



Phil's treatment of Melo was a real problem but to date it's been separate from how they treated literally anyone else on the team. Hell, Rose went AWOL and all they had for him was praise for whatever reason.

I have a hard time holding KP or even Melo accountable for the toxic situation that this organization is in right now. PJ is the architect and the head of this show. While KP is showing his immaturity in handling some of the things that have transpired PJ is the person in power that let this situation get to this point. He is the focal point of accountability.

now you've made guano respond seriously. ban everyone capn'o, starting with yourself.

i'm only half way through my first cup of coffee of the day... i really regret that post.

[god shammgod]

listen, in general, i reject the idea that these guys are constantly making stuff up. are stories sometimes sensationalized ? sure. but there remains truth in them almost always. and sometimes they get bad info from people who are spreading this info for some kind of advantage. but they would stop going to these people for info once they knew that. they actually care about their reputation because it keeps them employed. they're not writing fan fiction for fun. they usually work for very large companies and if word got around that they were fabricating stories out of thin air they wouldn't last long in the business.

its very hard to fact check "sources". Chriss name came from this dude. So he was the only one to get the scoop?

The booker and #4 was passed though a lot of media outlets...he is the only one mentioning chriss...it makes no sense to me.

We are in a different media market. Headlines and tweets to catch peoples attentions and get hits. There is way to much opinionated pieces and a lot less sourcing in todays media.

there are more opinion pieces but he's not presenting an opinion here. he's passing along what he heard. it could be he heard this story, has a contact with the suns and was able to find out more. it doesn't mean the exacts facts are correct because the information could be 3rd or 4th hand for all we know. and it's like the kid's game telephone then. things can get jumbled. but i doubt he just made it up.

[mpharris36]

listen, in general, i reject the idea that these guys are constantly making stuff up. are stories sometimes sensationalized ? sure. but there remains truth in them almost always. and sometimes they get bad info from people who are spreading this info for some kind of advantage. but they would stop going to these people for info once they knew that. they actually care about their reputation because it keeps them employed. they're not writing fan fiction for fun. they usually work for very large companies and if word got around that they were fabricating stories out of thin air they wouldn't last long in the business.

its very hard to fact check "sources". Chriss name came from this dude. So he was the only one to get the scoop?

The booker and #4 was passed though a lot of media outlets...he is the only one mentioning chriss...it makes no sense to me.

We are in a different media market. Headlines and tweets to catch peoples attentions and get hits. There is way to much opinionated pieces and a lot less sourcing in todays media.

there are more opinion pieces but he's not presenting an opinion here. he's passing along what he heard. it could be he heard this story, has a contact with the suns and was able to find out more. it doesn't mean the exacts facts are correct because the information could be 3rd or 4th hand for all we know. and it's like the kid's game telephone then. things can get jumbled. but i doubt he just made it up.

possibly. He might not have made it up but like you said unless he's clued into the suns specifically he just just be putting two and two together. Which is exactly what Woj did to fit his piece.

Knicks answered a call about KP, it blew up that the knicks were shopping him. Answering a phone call doesn't mean shopping him but do we know if names were actually exchanged...who knows.

Like you said its a game of telephone and if you are hearing it from someone who heard it from someone else...things get jumbled up all the time.

For example the source said I can't name names but a good young player and picks(s) including the #4 were exchanged. So he could take good young player as Chriss.

A lot of these reports nowadays have some shotty reporting IMO.

[RaisingArizona]

I come in peace. Is KP really on the block? I doubt that but people keep floating his name over on our boards. Thanks for the insights! Best of luck on draft day.

PS. I used to secretly root for NYK when LJ, Allan Houston and Ewing were there. Can't forget Van Gundy and those fights! Chris Childs was a childhood hero haha. Great teams, lots of fun.

I don't think he is unless there is a monster offer. We're not shopping.

There is a strange overlap with Knicks and Spurs fans. We're all aspiring spurs fans that can't make the commitment but there's a reciprocal vein, I've noticed. Strange bedfellows. And we often seem beat you once a year for some reason.

Thank you for the insight, Cap'n. Should be a crazy and exciting next few days!

[Garbagelo]

Phil taking calls around the league and establishing a groundwork asking price for KP just shows how much he knows about the teams around the league. Booker + 4th pick for KP is a steal for the Knicks and also gut punching for Phoenix but at the same time it is not unfathomable. This just shows that the guy has the pulse of the league in his knowledge base not swamped in cluelessness that everyone in here thinks he is.

This actually increases my faith in Phil even more.

[Capn'O]

I come in peace. Is KP really on the block? I doubt that but people keep floating his name over on our boards. Thanks for the insights! Best of luck on draft day.

PS. I used to secretly root for NYK when LJ, Allan Houston and Ewing were there. Can't forget Van Gundy and those fights! Chris Childs was a childhood hero haha. Great teams, lots of fun.

I don't think he is unless there is a monster offer. We're not shopping.

There is a strange overlap with Knicks and Spurs fans. We're all aspiring spurs fans that can't make the commitment but there's a reciprocal vein, I've noticed. Strange bedfellows. And we often seem beat you once a year for some reason.

Thank you for the insight, Cap'n. Should be a crazy and exciting next few days!

I responded to your post from my phone last night. Looks like I got your affiliations a little mixed up

Yeah - it's already been nuts! I am entertained.

[Governor Dudley]

Phil is garbage

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[god shammgod]

Phil is garbage

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sometimes, a few words are all you need

[Sark]

Cryptic Instagram posts?

Did Kporzee like the pic?

[god shammgod]

Cryptic Instagram posts?

almost every comment on this pic is #firephil

[mpharris36]

sometimes, a few words are all you need

The Dallas Mavericks currently own pick #9 in tomorrow’s draft and are trying to move up and land their future star guard.

Source tells LegionHoops.com that the Mavericks have spoken to the Minnesota Timberwolves about trading up to pick 7. Dallas is concerned that the guy they want, Frank Ntilikina will be selected by the Knicks at pick 8.

The parameters of the trade talks are unclear, but its expected Dallas would swap picks with Minnesota this year, and sweeten the pot by adding a player/future pick.

look at this recent article...there is so much speculation in it. the parameters are unclear "so I plan on making up a potential deal".

I even believe this was off a Alan Hahn report that because the knicks are interested Dallas could trade up...now its a legit rumor?

[Rasho Brezec]

#firephil

[Billy Goat]

Suns are really stupid if chriss and 4 was all it took to get KP and they didn't. WTF did the Suns think they were going to give us.

Teams dont value Porzingis as much as this delusional fanbase does. And Booker sucks too.

[dakomish23]

Phil is garbage

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