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Re: The MeloPause Trade Thread 

Post#1701 » by louieOrr » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:39 pm

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naijaboy wrote:That's my point he was an all time great that didn't become a winner until he was in a better situation.


He didn't win a chip till Boston, but was most certainly a winner in Minny. They were a fixture in the playoffs with him and had a WCF run as well as I recall


Sounds like a certain Knicks player on our team.... hmmm


It does. One waited it out and was gifted to the Celts. The other forced a trade that gutted the team of assets. Thus the different trajectory
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Post#1702 » by F N 11 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:43 pm

A press conference in very interested in watching it.
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Post#1703 » by Sark » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:44 pm

Garnett also won an MVP and DPOY. That alone puts him in a greater category than Melo.
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Post#1704 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:53 pm

JVG was quoted as saying that Melo is not a good fit on the Rockets.

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Post#1705 » by SelbyCobra » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:56 pm

Woj on Le Batard just now:

Knicks didn't like trade offers that were there and Scott Perry doesn't want to rush a deal. Melo's preference is clearly Houston and he wants to see these negotiations through to the end. Tough seeing the Knicks convincing him to stay now, but there's a lot of time left to resolve the issue. Cleveland has been aggressive in trying to acquire Melo, but hasn't had enough to get a deal done. NY does not want back vets on big contracts, so CLE is in the same situation as Houston. They've tried very hard, but haven't had enough to get a deal done. CLE actually got close on Paul George, but couldn't get a deal done. Cavs offer for PG was Love/Shumpert - Love to DEN, other players from DEN to Indiana.
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Post#1706 » by F N 11 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:56 pm

Am I late on the CJ Mcollum posting a pic of Melo in a blazer jersey
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Post#1707 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:58 pm

SelbyCobra wrote:Woj on Le Batard just now:

Knicks didn't like trade offers that were there and Scott Perry doesn't want to rush a deal. Melo's preference is clearly Houston and he wants to see these negotiations through to the end. Tough seeing the Knicks convincing him to stay now, but there's a lot of time left to resolve the issue. Cleveland has been aggressive in trying to acquire Melo, but hasn't had enough to get a deal done. NY does not want back vets on big contracts, so CLE is in the same situation as Houston. They've tried very hard, but haven't had enough to get a deal done. CLE actually got close on Paul George, but couldn't get a deal done. Cavs offer for PG was Love/Shumpert - Love to DEN, other players from DEN to Indiana.


its funny that everyone keeps posting that the only way CLE can do a melo trade without Love is shumpert and JR.

Shumpert/Frye/Jefferson/Felder work in the trade checker.

Throw in cedi and a future 1st round. That pretty all expirings except for shump. And we probably can easily find a deal for shump.
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Post#1708 » by taj2133 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:05 pm

we don't need shumpert back on the knicks he is bust like hardaway and dotson as future shooting guards
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Post#1709 » by mpharris36 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:09 pm

taj2133 wrote:we don't need shumpert back on the knicks he is bust like hardaway and dotson as future shooting guards


you can easily make it a 3 team trade for example...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yay8ekoz

we basically get all expirings.

Get a second round pick from MIA for shumpert along with ellington. and get osman and a future 1st form CLE.

No long term salaries.
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Post#1710 » by Dantares » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:11 pm

To me cedi osman has more potential than harkless. We know what harkless is already but cedi was considered a second round steal and he is more athletic than moe. There is more intrigue and potential with cedi.

I take that Cleveland deal over the 3 way deal with por and hou. That is if Cleveland can include a first round pick.
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Re: The MeloPause Trade Thread 

Post#1711 » by Polk377 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:12 pm

JoeypopsNY wrote:
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Sark wrote:If Julius Randle can do this, why can't Melo

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Lala has been keeping him soft. Melo seems to be all in this off season......


Just like he has been the last 5 years c'mon the only thing he was all indie was getting that money dude is a scrub.

No better then eddy curry, amare, eddy curry, Steve Francis.

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Post#1712 » by New Jersey Knick » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:15 pm

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different humans have different body types....(not to be racist)...but Its not fair to compare an Ectomorph, Caucasioid phenotype to an endomorph negoid phenotype.

Also the type of training matters....The NBA Isn't a physique competition, Kevin Durant doesn't have to be as muscular as Jaylen Brown to win a championship.....(for example) Julius Randle doing Crossfit drills may not help him as much as KP doing ball handling drills come next season.
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Big word alert....big word alert. :-?


actually its very fair , scrawny/skinny bball players become not scrawny/skinny all the time , race has nothing to do with it


kevin durant doesnt have strength issues

when does anyone complain that strength is an issue for rudy gobert ?

and if you need me to name non/black players how about ak-47 or kristaps' teamate who transformed his body during the season , hernangomez....who lost a good bit of weight and toned up considerably

kirilenko is a scrawny one but he didnt have strength issues, the gasols , one was skinny, one was fat both got themselves together physically to be great players

if you are going to look at something julius randle does and go "why not carmelo ?" then it should also go for everyone on the roster especially the younger ones who need conditioning the most

carmelo has been and will likely continue to be better than randle and when that is not the case it wont be because of diet it will be carmelo's age and wear and tear

he's not the only player on the roster and to be honest its his 14th season his days of shedding 10 pounds and outquicking players are gone .

its just another poor attempt to take shots at him that are unwarranted , and when it deflected to others , predictably the excuses came.



Race and Genetics go hand in hand... of course there are outliers but generally speaking certain patterns are evident.

WillYHG transforming his body and KP transforming his body are 2 different "transformation" GOALS....because Willy and KP have 2 different builds....much like KP and J.Randle.

KP's build is going to take longer to add muscle mass, due to his genetics....but in time it will come.

Where as Willy HG already has a lot of muscle mass and needs to focus on lowering BF%.
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Re: The MeloPause Trade Thread 

Post#1714 » by K_ick_God » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:21 pm

mpharris36 wrote:
taj2133 wrote:we don't need shumpert back on the knicks he is bust like hardaway and dotson as future shooting guards


you can easily make it a 3 team trade for example...

http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yay8ekoz

we basically get all expirings.

Get a second round pick from MIA for shumpert along with ellington. and get osman and a future 1st form CLE.

No long term salaries.


I like this idea a lot better.
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Re: The MeloPause Trade Thread 

Post#1715 » by DaGawd » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:24 pm

K P 6 wrote:Am I late on the CJ Mcollum posting a pic of Melo in a blazer jersey

Yeah lite years late bruh
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Post#1716 » by Traveyknicks23 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:27 pm

Sell high we are in the drivers seat
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Re: The MeloPause Trade Thread 

Post#1717 » by Handledatruth » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:32 pm

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He didn't win a chip till Boston, but was most certainly a winner in Minny. They were a fixture in the playoffs with him and had a WCF run as well as I recall


Sounds like a certain Knicks player on our team.... hmmm


It does. One waited it out and was gifted to the Celts. The other forced a trade that gutted the team of assets. Thus the different trajectory

You mean like what CP3 just did? :lol: Sure, let's continue to blame the player for what a front office decided to do. Anyway, it still doesn't change the point, if KG was a winner in Minnesota then Carmelo was a winner in Denver. That was the analogy that you conveniently dodged.
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Re: The MeloPause Trade Thread 

Post#1718 » by Polk377 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:34 pm

Hell no to anything Cleavland offers and no to Houston unless they throw in picks or Qui and or Hartenstein. Perry and Mills have to sit down with Melo and tell him straight up "Hey you are much more valuable to us than what these teams are offering for you. We want what is best for you but we have to do what is best for the organization first. We won't close talks all together but until teams make serious offers you will be back next season"
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Post#1719 » by drekwins » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:36 pm

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He didn't win a chip till Boston, but was most certainly a winner in Minny. They were a fixture in the playoffs with him and had a WCF run as well as I recall


Sounds like a certain Knicks player on our team.... hmmm


It does. One waited it out and was gifted to the Celts. The other forced a trade that gutted the team of assets. Thus the different trajectory


Lol Melo is not even close to the level of player that KG was. KG was elite defensively and great offensively. He could score, rebound amazingly well, fantastic passer and could literally guard 1-5. For a large portion of his career, he was the most versatile, best defensive and best passing big in the league. Not to mention, he held teammates accountable and was a leader. That's a terrible comparison.
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Re: The MeloPause Trade Thread 

Post#1720 » by seren » Mon Jul 17, 2017 4:37 pm

Osman is just signed. I don't think they can trade him at the moment. Maybe after a few months?

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