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2019 Offseason Speculation Thread - Something gonna happen but will you like it?

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Re: 2019 Offseason Speculation Thread - Something gonna happen but will you like it? 

Post#1701 » by Richard4444 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:47 am

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B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:That's $1.95m in additional salary on the salary cap chart. That means you can't keep Trier (or you have to trade one of Frank, Kevin or Dennis for non-salary considerations).

Would you that: Trier + RJ for #8, #10 and #17 ?


I would do a Trier (or Frank) + RJ + #55 for #8, #10 #17 and # 35. only if Culver or Hunter was avaliable at #8 and NO have refused AD for RJ + Mitch + Dallas Picks).

Otimo. So this is an actual thought, rather than most of the last n pages of panic.

Can't do Frank unless you actually find an explicit trade there. The "Trier" is just you have to give up having him on the squad. You can't do that with Frank. (Waive & stretching him would be bizarre as a use of assets, but not enough cap space in any case.)

Otherwise that seems fine - you agree who to draft at #3 and to do the trade if Culver or Hunter drop to #8.


Its look like you can trade now but acomplish the trade in july 5th.

Thus you can view Atlanta as a virtual under the Cap team. They traded the cheap 2,3M Prince for 18M Crabble. The deal will be completed in june 5th.
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Post#1702 » by robillionaire » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:47 am

Also no I would not trade 3 for 8 10 and 17 especially not in this weak of a draft
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Post#1703 » by god shammgod » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:48 am

they're trading this year's pick and next years. so they actually have to make the pick for atl and then wait until 30 days after the draft to trade him there. you can't trade two picks in a row otherwise. no ? don't they have to sign the player first so they're technically not trading two picks in a row.
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Post#1704 » by Fat Kat » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:48 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:I can understand Kyrie wanting to play for the Nets being from South Orange when the Nets were a Jersey team and all, but why does Durant leave a championship contender, move his business to NY only to play in front of 40 people every home game? Doesn't make sense.


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Post#1705 » by K_ick_God » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:50 am

god shammgod wrote:they're trading this year's pick and next years. so they actually have to make the pick for atl and then wait until 30 days after the draft to trade him there. you can't trade two picks in a row otherwise.


Maybe it is for Kyrie. Whatever it is, it seems pretty much slapped together ....
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Post#1706 » by robillionaire » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:52 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:I can understand Kyrie wanting to play for the Nets being from South Orange when the Nets were a Jersey team and all, but why does Durant leave a championship contender, move his business to NY only to play in front of 40 people every home game? Doesn't make sense.


I’m sure people will go to the games when they have kyrie and kd

I won’t but I’m sure somebody will
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Post#1707 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:53 am

dakomish23 wrote:Saw some questions about how much space BKN has now

Read on Twitter


So they’re 6 mil shy of the KD Kyrie max combo.
Dumping Joe Harris does that.

They’re good for two 7-9 maxes though

It would be nice if people could actually read the known salaries instead of quoting bull twitter artists.

It's really not very hard to figure out the Nyets cap - there are a bunch of resources on the net - basketball-insiders, basketball-reference, and many other (espn, .. ) w/e. I'm going to use sportrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nba/brooklyn-nets/cap/2019/

You'll see that Shabb and Trev have non-guaranteed contracts if renounced by 10 July. So, doing that immediately nets the Nyets $1,696,342 in salary cap.

Their "$66m" in 'effective salary cap' is in fact: $66,975,950. So, sticking these together the Nets have $68,672,292 in cap space. The KD+KI combo is $70,850,000. So that leaves them a little less than $2.2m shy of a Kd-Kyrie combo.

It's actually not so hard to dump the remaining salary. Look on https://www.spotrac.com/nba/brooklyn-nets/cap/2019/ to see the options
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Post#1708 » by dakomish23 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:54 am

god shammgod wrote:they're trading this year's pick and next years. so they actually have to make the pick for atl and then wait until 30 days after the draft to trade him there. you can't trade two picks in a row otherwise. no ? don't they have to sign the player first so they're technically not trading two picks in a row.


They still have 27 this year and had a first last year as well.

I don’t think this is about Stepien
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Post#1709 » by BBALLER4FR » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:55 am

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BBALLER4FR wrote:I can understand Kyrie wanting to play for the Nets being from South Orange when the Nets were a Jersey team and all, but why does Durant leave a championship contender, move his business to NY only to play in front of 40 people every home game? Doesn't make sense.


I’m sure people will go to the games when they have kyrie and kd

I won’t but I’m sure somebody will


Will be nothing close to the MSG environment. Again, I understand Kyrie, but if that's KD's journey then best of luck. Also, since when did the narrative become KD follows Kyrie? And if this duo in BKN was alsays the plan, then why did the Nets choose now to make this trade?
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Post#1710 » by B8RcDeMktfxC » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:57 am

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I would do a Trier (or Frank) + RJ + #55 for #8, #10 #17 and # 35. only if Culver or Hunter was avaliable at #8 and NO have refused AD for RJ + Mitch + Dallas Picks).

Otimo. So this is an actual thought, rather than most of the last n pages of panic.

Can't do Frank unless you actually find an explicit trade there. The "Trier" is just you have to give up having him on the squad. You can't do that with Frank. (Waive & stretching him would be bizarre as a use of assets, but not enough cap space in any case.)

Otherwise that seems fine - you agree who to draft at #3 and to do the trade if Culver or Hunter drop to #8.


Its look like you can trade now but acomplish the trade in june 5th.

Thus you can view Atlanta as a virtual under the Cap team. They traded the cheap 2,3M Prince for 18M Crabble. The deal will be completed in june 5th.

lots of July's instead of June's here? maybe?
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Post#1711 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:57 am

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Post#1712 » by robillionaire » Fri Jun 7, 2019 2:59 am

BBALLER4FR wrote:
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BBALLER4FR wrote:I can understand Kyrie wanting to play for the Nets being from South Orange when the Nets were a Jersey team and all, but why does Durant leave a championship contender, move his business to NY only to play in front of 40 people every home game? Doesn't make sense.


I’m sure people will go to the games when they have kyrie and kd

I won’t but I’m sure somebody will


Will be nothing close to the MSG environment. Again, I understand Kyrie, but if that's KD's journey then best of luck. Also, since when did the narrative become KD follows Kyrie? And if this duo in BKN was alsays the plan, then why did the Nets choose now to make this trade?


I don’t think it was always the plan but the last few days make it seem undeniable that it’s the plan now. Who knows what changed. All we can say is Kyrie has somehow leaked to the universe that he wants to go to the nets, he’s been in nyc recently and now the nets out of nowhere make this desperation trade to free up cap space. Something clearly is happening here
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Post#1713 » by robillionaire » Fri Jun 7, 2019 3:00 am

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Post#1715 » by dakomish23 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 3:01 am

B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
dakomish23 wrote:Saw some questions about how much space BKN has now

Read on Twitter


So they’re 6 mil shy of the KD Kyrie max combo.
Dumping Joe Harris does that.

They’re good for two 7-9 maxes though

It would be nice if people could actually read the known salaries instead of quoting bull twitter artists.

It's really not very hard to figure out the Nyets cap - there are a bunch of resources on the net - basketball-insiders, basketball-reference, and many other (espn, .. ) w/e. I'm going to use sportrac: https://www.spotrac.com/nba/brooklyn-nets/cap/2019/

You'll see that Shabb and Trev have non-guaranteed contracts if renounced by 10 July. So, doing that immediately nets the Nyets $1,696,342 in salary cap.

Their "$66m" in 'effective salary cap' is in fact: $66,975,950. So, sticking these together the Nets have $68,672,292 in cap space. The KD+KI combo is $70,850,000. So that leaves them a little less than $2.2m shy of a Kd-Kyrie combo.

It's actually not so hard to dump the remaining salary. Look on https://www.spotrac.com/nba/brooklyn-nets/cap/2019/ to see the options


he’s not some random dude. He’s well respected by a lot of smart media members.

You’re manipulating what they do after this and he didn’t.

Sorry. 71 not 72. Are you being serious with this reaction? Calm the fuq down.
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Post#1716 » by Richard4444 » Fri Jun 7, 2019 3:01 am

Richard4444 wrote:
B8RcDeMktfxC wrote:
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I would do a Trier (or Frank) + RJ + #55 for #8, #10 #17 and # 35. only if Culver or Hunter was avaliable at #8 and NO have refused AD for RJ + Mitch + Dallas Picks).

Otimo. So this is an actual thought, rather than most of the last n pages of panic.

Can't do Frank unless you actually find an explicit trade there. The "Trier" is just you have to give up having him on the squad. You can't do that with Frank. (Waive & stretching him would be bizarre as a use of assets, but not enough cap space in any case.)

Otherwise that seems fine - you agree who to draft at #3 and to do the trade if Culver or Hunter drop to #8.


Its look like you can trade now but acomplish the trade in july 5th.

Thus you can view Atlanta as a virtual under the Cap team. They traded the cheap 2,3M Prince for 18M Crabble. The deal will be completed in july 5th.
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Re: 2019 Offseason Speculation Thread - Something gonna happen but will you like it? 

Post#1717 » by god shammgod » Fri Jun 7, 2019 3:02 am

dakomish23 wrote:
god shammgod wrote:they're trading this year's pick and next years. so they actually have to make the pick for atl and then wait until 30 days after the draft to trade him there. you can't trade two picks in a row otherwise. no ? don't they have to sign the player first so they're technically not trading two picks in a row.


They still have 27 this year and had a first last year as well.

I don’t think this is about Stepien


you're right. they have denver's pick. so it's not that.
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Post#1718 » by Fat Kat » Fri Jun 7, 2019 3:02 am

robillionaire wrote:
BBALLER4FR wrote:
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I’m sure people will go to the games when they have kyrie and kd

I won’t but I’m sure somebody will


Will be nothing close to the MSG environment. Again, I understand Kyrie, but if that's KD's journey then best of luck. Also, since when did the narrative become KD follows Kyrie? And if this duo in BKN was alsays the plan, then why did the Nets choose now to make this trade?


I don’t think it was always the plan but the last few days make it seem undeniable that it’s the plan now. Who knows what changed. All we can say is Kyrie has somehow leaked to the universe that he wants to go to the nets, he’s been in nyc recently and now the nets out of nowhere make this desperation trade to free up cap space. Something clearly is happening here


Does Twitter make it “undeniable” or have you heard something?
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Post#1719 » by god shammgod » Fri Jun 7, 2019 3:03 am

stephen jackson said don't be surprised to see jimmy follow kyrie
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