Offseason Thread Continued - Atlanta Got Crabbes and We're Panicking

[Fury]

As of now, I’m still leaning towards giving him the max. The reward outweighs the risk.

But you’re punting two years. Not sure this organization has this level of patience for such a small possibility that he comes back at least 80-90%.

But that's the reality. KD is not going to be 80-90% at 32 coming off an achilles injury. He will never ever be the same. You're looking at the Lakers version of Glen Rice.

If Knicks give him a Max contract, it's just proof that they're still incompetent and don't deserve to be respected around the league.

This franchise will continue to suck

It's a players league. It can also be seen as a sign of goodwill, and supporting the players even if this situation.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Dennis respects our Mt. Rushmore (Mills/Perry/Robinson/Fiz). Not enough credence is given to Craig Robinson and our historic front office. Dennis and Robinson speak the same language. And Perry/Mills have a familial history and pedigree Dennis is trying to establish.

#rootwarriors

historic FO in a lot of ways. props for your attention to the craig robinson role. essentially a chief people officer. more common practice for top businesses worldwide.

[br7knicks]

Dsj
Dotson
Leonard
Davis
Robinson?

Looks good to me

I don't hate the trade for AD if it means Robinson and Dotson stay. If it's a Dallas pick, Knox, Trier, frank. I'm good with that, for a one year rental to go with Leonard. Spend extra on guys like Rubio and other important cogs. That team can do damage, and may entice Davis to stick around after his one year

[newyorker4ever]

If you a real Knicks fan, you better root like hell Warriors win 3 in a row and another title

#kawhikd

So you thinking the Raptors losing at this point makes Kawhi more likely to leave?? Interesting.. I was thinking winning a title would make it so

If they lose he outta there. If they win a title he will still listen to NY and LA pitch but he will have to be sold and there would have to be enough help to win.

Every one of us should be rooting for an epic Warriors comeback and for Steph to go nuts and cement the team as his for ever and ever...

Having A.Davis here waiting on him would help i would think. Make that phone call AD.

[taj2133]

Kevin Durant Had Discomfort Pushing Off Right Foot Throughout Rehab
JUN 11, 2019 9:45 AM


Kevin Durant was working to speed up the recovery from his calf injury from the Western Conference Semifinals, but he was still experiencing discomfort pushing off his right foot.

Sources told Chris Haynes of Yahoo! Sports that Durant was "in agony because he was unable to help his teammates."

Durant was not anywhere close to 100 percent despite being cleared, according to sources.

Durant's status was a talking point because he wasn't ruled out indefinitely.
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/254152/Kevin-Durant-Had-Discomfort-Pushing-Off-Right-Foot-Throughout-Rehab

[br7knicks]

But that's the reality. KD is not going to be 80-90% at 32 coming off an achilles injury. He will never ever be the same. You're looking at the Lakers version of Glen Rice.

If Knicks give him a Max contract, it's just proof that they're still incompetent and don't deserve to be respected around the league.

This franchise will continue to suck

It's a players league. It can also be seen as a sign of goodwill, and supporting the players even if this situation.

Possibly. But more so coming from the warriors, not the Knicks.

[shtolky]

We have tried it all but building with our own and adding pieces.

I don't buy it. AD is better than Melo was and it wasn't the trade that was the issue, it was how the team built around Melo. Look at what we gave up for prime Melo, it's a joke. Even Ujiri mentioned this and he made the deal. You need superstars to win in the league, at least one. We have a chance to get one for 30 cents on the dollar. The KD stuff has made it a little less desirable but I still think Perry is going to go for it.

[Fury]

Kevin Durant Had Discomfort Pushing Off Right Foot Throughout Rehab
JUN 11, 2019 9:45 AM


Kevin Durant was working to speed up the recovery from his calf injury from the Western Conference Semifinals, but he was still experiencing discomfort pushing off his right foot.

Sources told Chris Haynes of Yahoo! Sports that Durant was "in agony because he was unable to help his teammates."

Durant was not anywhere close to 100 percent despite being cleared, according to sources.

Durant's status was a talking point because he wasn't ruled out indefinitely.
https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/254152/Kevin-Durant-Had-Discomfort-Pushing-Off-Right-Foot-Throughout-Rehab

Oh man

[Wonderllama]

I think i'll feel much better once RJ is a knick.

Not when he starts missing most of his shots and most of his free throws

[Jeff Van Gully]

we may have a KD injury thread once the news breaks, but i just want to point out that this right leg drama is not surprising to me.

i been saying i had pause about KD's long-term health since the right foot jones fracture surgery. can't help but wonder if there has been a lot of compensation over the years. even for someone in great shape, you're asking a lot of the lower body when playing basketball at any pro level.

edit:
https://www.businessinsider.com/kevin-durant-foot-injury-explained-2015-3

biomechanical... stress...

[G_K_F]

Explain to me how rooting for the Raptors to prevail would help our offseason.

I don’t know if it will hurt or help. I don’t think it matters at all.

My point is more about not signing Durant to a max deal, as you seem to be advocating for. It hasn’t worked for us in the past and it won’t work now. I’d rather go in a different direction.

The direction was picked long ago. You can't turn back now. Relationships are at stake. It's a business. If anyone turns back it would have to be KD. But if Warriors climb out the grave without him he will be feeling a need to be loved again.

Why can’t I turn back? Why am I forced to pay KD $35 and effectively put a $35 million cap hold on my team for a guy who may never come back? For relationships? F relationships then.

We’ve got some decent guys through the draft, right? Even if taking is ‘over’ we can still have a shot at top picks through the new system and even without a top 5 pick you just need a good scouting department. Kawhi wasn’t a top pick.

I don’t understand the mentality of being so close to making good decisions for the future for once in 20 years and wanting to throw it all away for an injured KD and ‘relationships’.

[newyorker4ever]

The only free agent I want is Randle. 24 years old and is improving every year.

Watch on YouTube

He'd be a great piece at PF next to M.Robinson and can also play center to take some pressure off of M.Rob who i'm not sure is ready for a full time roll yet.

Would you give him his max? bc thats what he wants.

I haven't heard anything about what he's looking for in a contract and didn't know he's said he wants max so that's definitely a thinker. He's really really good though and very young.

[Jeff Van Gully]

I think i'll feel much better once RJ is a knick.

Not when he starts missing most of his shots and most of his free throws

you think he will shoot under 50% from the line?

most wings shoot under 50% from the field, so i'm not worried too much about that part.

[KnixinSix]

When you know better, you know at the end of the day, KD just wants to be loved.

Very possible.

[mpharris36]

I'd be fine with an AD trade if Kawhi comes, but if the Pels want it done before the draft, I don't do it

For as bad as our young core is, I'll take them over trading everything for AD and having to start over again in 2020

yeah I wouldn't trust Kawhi coming until he signed so I wouldn't agree to an AD until he signed...so if they want it done before hand we just can't commit to that.

But then you fall into a bit of a contradiction, because our best shot at Kawhi is to have AD already on the roster to pitch him the idea of playing with him. Reports were Kawhi was intrigued at teaming up with KD, not with the Knicks

I'm still full on team rebuild with what we've got

u just can't make that trade though. Because if Kawhi doesn't come you trade all your youth for AD and now you have no one to play with him. You become a worse version of the current pelicans with no future assets.

We aren't in a position to take that risk.

[KnixinSix]

We have tried it all but building with our own and adding pieces.

I don't buy it. AD is better than Melo was and it wasn't the trade that was the issue, it was how the team built around Melo. Look at what we gave up for prime Melo, it's a joke. Even Ujiri mentioned this and he made the deal. You need superstars to win in the league, at least one. We have a chance to get one for 30 cents on the dollar. The KD stuff has made it a little less desirable but I still think Perry is going to go for it.

You nailed it. It's how we built around him.

[F N 11]

I think i'll feel much better once RJ is a knick.

Not when he starts missing most of his shots and most of his free throws

You mean like Luka in his rookie year?

[mpharris36]

When you know better, you know at the end of the day, KD just wants to be loved.

Very possible.

wanting to sign him and believe in him even if he's injured is showing him the most love anyone can ask for.

[newyorker4ever]

Much respect 2010. The feeling is mutual. How do I quantify those percentages? I look at the last 20 years.

I have no confidence.

But seriously, I don't see how Kawhi, coming off an NBA Finals and possibly a championship, comes here to play for this media and this city. He's probably one of the most anti-NYC athletes.

What if I told you he loves the city and Dennis fks wit Scott Perry?

Don't get me wrong, I'd pick up Kawhi at the airport and carry him to MSG myself if he wanted to come here. I just don't see it. I hope you're right. But until something good happens to this franchise, I have a hard time believing it will.

But you're saying Kawhi is one of the most anti-NYC athletes there is out there and 2010 is telling you that he actually loves NYC so where do you get that he's one of the most anti-NYC athletes from and that there's 0% chance that Kawhi signs with the Knicks?

[KnixinSix]

yeah I wouldn't trust Kawhi coming until he signed so I wouldn't agree to an AD until he signed...so if they want it done before hand we just can't commit to that.

But then you fall into a bit of a contradiction, because our best shot at Kawhi is to have AD already on the roster to pitch him the idea of playing with him. Reports were Kawhi was intrigued at teaming up with KD, not with the Knicks

I'm still full on team rebuild with what we've got

u just can't make that trade though. Because if Kawhi doesn't come you trade all your youth for AD and now you have no one to play with him. You become a worse version of the current pelicans with no future assets.

We aren't in a position to take that risk.

You make the trade with an 'assurance' from a 2nd max (preferably Kawhi).