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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1701 » by HEZI » Mon May 4, 2020 2:41 am

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HEZI wrote:https://nypost.com/2020/05/03/nba-draft-cole-anthonys-trainer-quells-doubt-about-unc-season/

Chris Brickley, Cole Anthony’s trainer since he was 16, was delighted by the point guard’s quarantine request.
The Manhattan product asked Brickley if they could scour tape of his underachieving freshman season at North Carolina via Zoom.
It was a perfect learning tool during the coronavirus pandemic preventing them from live training.
“We watched the whole UNC season over again,” said Brickley, former Knicks player development coordinator from 2013 to 2016. “That was pretty cool. That wasn’t even my idea – to be honest. I approach players a lot about “lets’ do this with mini projects.’ But he came to me. It showed he’s a student of the game. And he wanted to take a look about how he could’ve done better from a maturity standpoint.”

Anthony is a projected lottery pick in the June 25 NBA draft – slated anywhere from No. 5 to 15 in mock drafts. “I don’t know a lot of lottery kids that would want to do that with their time,’’ Brickley said. “He learned a ton.”
Brickley is Carmelo Anthony’s longtime trainer and now has another Anthony with Knicks ties to groom. The son of ex-Knick guard Greg Anthony has various stigmas attached to him after tearing a meniscus in his knee in December.

“My take is you had a UNC team not very strong and he was put in a no-win situation,” Brickley said. “When I hear he had a bad personal season, I shake my head. He ended the season second-leading scoring freshman in the country.
“He figured out a way against defenses that were geared toward him. He was the only best option on the team. It wasn’t an easy situation for him.”While the knee injury is considered a negative to some, Brickley termed it “a pivotal moment.” Anthony returned on Feb. 1 after a six-week absence.
“Ninety percent of projected lottery picks, with the team not doing well, they’re not going to come back,” Brickley said. “That spoke volumes. He came back the first few games, took charges and sacrificed his body. It was a testament to his toughness and how much he cares.” Brickley started training Anthony when he was 16 and playing for Archbishop Molloy in Queens. Anthony transferred to basketball factory Oak Hill Academy, where in 2018-19 he averaged a triple double (18.5 points, 10.2 rebounds, 10.2 assists).


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Though he logged UNC numbers of 18.5 points, 5.7 rebounds and four assists per game, he shot an inefficient 38 percent. Criticism also surfaced about him not being a good enough playmaker who makes teammates better.

“Sometimes you hear the selfish, shot-first guy, I shake my head again considering what he did at Oak Hill,” Brickley said. “As far making other players better, I’ll bet the money in my bank account that — just as he ended the regular season as top freshman scoring guard, he’d have liked to end the season as No. 1 assist guy. He really is a willing passer.
“If you watch the tape, he’d get double-teamed, he’d make the extra pass. Sometimes you know how it goes. If you don’t have someone stretching the floor, knocking down shots, you’re not getting the assist.”

While a freakish athlete, Anthony needs improvement on his outside shot. He was respectable at 34.8 percent from 3. “Most NBA players that get to the right organization, they become better shooters,” Brickley said. “That will definitely happen with Cole.”
A strong relationship with Anthony’s parents helped the bond of player-trainer. Brickley calls Anthony’s mother, Crystal, a movie producer, author and a “mother figure” to him. Brickley’s own mom passed when he was a child.
Greg Anthony, who played for the Knicks during the glory days from 1991-1995, has dropped into their workouts across the years, giving input. Greg Anthony lives in Florida. “He’s given me pointers – the next couple of weeks work on this, then focus on this, watch (Stephen) Curry film,” Brickley said. “He’s definitely been part of the development process.”

Last summer, Brickley got Anthony in a gym with Donovan Mitchell, Trae Young and D’Angelo Russell to “see the type of work ethic these guys have.”

Brickley’s two charges, Cole Anthony and Carmelo Anthony, have also played 1-on-1 in the gym. Carmelo is currently quarantining in Portland.

“It’s ridiculous how really tough he is on himself,” Brickley said. “If you want to watch a workout, you’d be like “whoa.” l’ll have him do a drill — if he doesn’t get that score, he’s going to want to do it again and again until he gets it. He’s extremely competitive. He embodies that New York toughness. I don’t know if it’s being born here, playing here but he’s a very tough kid. At the next level, that will allow him to get better.”

Brickley hopes Cole winds up a Knick, in the market for a scoring point guard.
“I’ve asked him about it,” Brickley said. “He doesn’t want to be drafted by a team that puts him to the side and doesn’t make it a priority to develop him. He wants to be put in a situation where he can be with a good coaching staff willing to keep improving his game. He’d love to play in New York for sure. He grew up in Manhattan.

“Over the years, Knicks would draft guys from the New York area and it hasn’t gone well off the court. He’s got two really good parents who kept his head on straight. They always told him what was right and wrong. If the Knicks draft him, I don’t think you have to worry off the court.”


“Brickley hopes Cole winds up a Knick, in the market for a scoring point guard.

“I’ve asked him about it,” Brickley said. He doesn’t want to be drafted by a team that puts him to the side and doesn’t make it a priority to develop him. He wants to be put in a situation where he can be with a good coaching staff willing to keep improving his game. He’d love to play in New York for sure. He grew up in Manhattan.”

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1702 » by Fat » Mon May 4, 2020 7:42 am

WhAts everyone’s crow pick? Lol

The player you have doubts about that ends up proving you wrong. Doesn’t even have to be a top pick just anybody out of the draft.
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Post#1703 » by blanko » Mon May 4, 2020 9:01 am

Naughtyfatboy wrote:WhAts everyone’s crow pick? Lol

The player you have doubts about that ends up proving you wrong. Doesn’t even have to be a top pick just anybody out of the draft.
Its a crow draft lol

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Post#1704 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon May 4, 2020 9:15 am

Naughtyfatboy wrote:WhAts everyone’s crow pick? Lol

The player you have doubts about that ends up proving you wrong. Doesn’t even have to be a top pick just anybody out of the draft.


That’s a great question. I’m always good for a few of them a draft. You should start a poll.
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Post#1705 » by blanko » Mon May 4, 2020 9:17 am

I wouldnt mind taking a shot at ashton hagans in the second/udfa. He is a year younger than sophomores (reclassified) is athletic and has a good wingspan.

I really dont like small penetrating guards with subpar wingspans. Now if the small guard a knockdown shooter i dont mind.

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Post#1706 » by HighRyzer83 » Mon May 4, 2020 10:59 am

Paul Reed vs Jalen Smith. Who would you take assuming they're available with our 2nd pick and why?
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Post#1707 » by blanko » Mon May 4, 2020 11:21 am

HighRyzer83 wrote:Paul Reed vs Jalen Smith. Who would you take assuming they're available with our 2nd pick and why?
Just off scouting reports i would go paul reed. He seems more versatile and switchable. While Smith is a floor stretching big, i dont think he has the mobility to chase after stretch 4s and switch on defense.

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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1708 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon May 4, 2020 12:11 pm

Naughtyfatboy wrote:WhAts everyone’s crow pick? Lol

The player you have doubts about that ends up proving you wrong. Doesn’t even have to be a top pick just anybody out of the draft.

Prob Cole Anthony and Isaac Okoro
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1709 » by KnicksGadfly » Mon May 4, 2020 12:53 pm

This is how I predict things go with our pick.

On the night of draft lottery:
-No lotto luck. Knicks pick 6th.

-Knicks fans:

-Knicks fans who carry on the tradition of NYKMentality: well, who cares. Remember, Michael Jordan was picked 3rd lololololol. I bet you picks 1-5 are busts. Pick 6 is the best historically. I BELIEVE. Let me get ready to type up a 3 page post hyping up Julius Randle.

-Knicks fans who believe in the lotto gods: This is what we get for tanking! We gotta win games! Elfrid Payton getting lots of minutes, hells yes. Taj Gibson, keep playing all those minutes. Oh man, we just benched all our youth...someone get me a change of underwear!

A few days later:
-Newspapers begin leaking that Cole Anthony is our pick.
-Knicks fans get pissed.

One week later:
-Knicks fans begin rationalizing the Cole Anthony pick and fooling themselves into liking it through a psychological phenomenon called cognitive dissonance.

A month later:
Workouts begin.
Wake up Leon!

On the day of the draft:
If Cole is good, he'll get drafted before 6 because the Knicks leaked all their info out. Probably by the Golden State Warriors
If Cole is bad, we pick him and Knicks fans cheer.
If the Knicks front office fooled us, we probably pick some rando from Europe. Cue crying young Knicks fan who goes viral.
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Post#1710 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon May 4, 2020 1:07 pm

HighRyzer83 wrote:Paul Reed vs Jalen Smith. Who would you take assuming they're available with our 2nd pick and why?


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Post#1711 » by HarthorneWingo » Mon May 4, 2020 1:13 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:This is how I predict things go with our pick.

On the night of draft lottery:
-No lotto luck. Knicks pick 6th.

-Knicks fans:

-Knicks fans who carry on the tradition of NYKMentality: well, who cares. Remember, Michael Jordan was picked 3rd lololololol. I bet you picks 1-5 are busts. Pick 6 is the best historically. I BELIEVE. Let me get ready to type up a 3 page post hyping up Julius Randle.

-Knicks fans who believe in the lotto gods: This is what we get for tanking! We gotta win games! Elfrid Payton getting lots of minutes, hells yes. Taj Gibson, keep playing all those minutes. Oh man, we just benched all our youth...someone get me a change of underwear!

A few days later:
-Newspapers begin leaking that Cole Anthony is our pick.
-Knicks fans get pissed.

One week later:
-Knicks fans begin rationalizing the Cole Anthony pick and fooling themselves into liking it through a psychological phenomenon called cognitive dissonance.

A month later:
Workouts begin.
Wake up Leon!

On the day of the draft:
If Cole is good, he'll get drafted before 6 because the Knicks leaked all their info out. Probably by the Golden State Warriors
If Cole is bad, we pick him and Knicks fans cheer.
If the Knicks front office fooled us, we probably pick some rando from Europe. Cue crying young Knicks fan who goes viral.


Tell the truth (we’re a family here!), were you high when you wrote this post?
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1712 » by robillionaire » Mon May 4, 2020 1:24 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:This is how I predict things go with our pick.

On the night of draft lottery:
-No lotto luck. Knicks pick 6th.

-Knicks fans:

-Knicks fans who carry on the tradition of NYKMentality: well, who cares. Remember, Michael Jordan was picked 3rd lololololol. I bet you picks 1-5 are busts. Pick 6 is the best historically. I BELIEVE. Let me get ready to type up a 3 page post hyping up Julius Randle.

-Knicks fans who believe in the lotto gods: This is what we get for tanking! We gotta win games! Elfrid Payton getting lots of minutes, hells yes. Taj Gibson, keep playing all those minutes. Oh man, we just benched all our youth...someone get me a change of underwear!

A few days later:
-Newspapers begin leaking that Cole Anthony is our pick.
-Knicks fans get pissed.

One week later:
-Knicks fans begin rationalizing the Cole Anthony pick and fooling themselves into liking it through a psychological phenomenon called cognitive dissonance.

A month later:
Workouts begin.
Wake up Leon!

On the day of the draft:
If Cole is good, he'll get drafted before 6 because the Knicks leaked all their info out. Probably by the Golden State Warriors
If Cole is bad, we pick him and Knicks fans cheer.
If the Knicks front office fooled us, we probably pick some rando from Europe. Cue crying young Knicks fan who goes viral.


in the spirit of nykmentality i'd like to just point out that 6th would be a little bit of lotto luck, our highest odds are at 7 and 8 :lol:
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Post#1713 » by RHODEY » Mon May 4, 2020 2:48 pm

KnicksGadfly wrote:This is how I predict things go with our pick.

On the night of draft lottery:
-No lotto luck. Knicks pick 6th.

-Knicks fans:

-Knicks fans who carry on the tradition of NYKMentality: well, who cares. Remember, Michael Jordan was picked 3rd lololololol. I bet you picks 1-5 are busts. Pick 6 is the best historically. I BELIEVE. Let me get ready to type up a 3 page post hyping up Julius Randle.

-Knicks fans who believe in the lotto gods: This is what we get for tanking! We gotta win games! Elfrid Payton getting lots of minutes, hells yes. Taj Gibson, keep playing all those minutes. Oh man, we just benched all our youth...someone get me a change of underwear!

A few days later:
-Newspapers begin leaking that Cole Anthony is our pick.
-Knicks fans get pissed.

One week later:
-Knicks fans begin rationalizing the Cole Anthony pick and fooling themselves into liking it through a psychological phenomenon called cognitive dissonance.

A month later:
Workouts begin.
Wake up Leon!

On the day of the draft:
If Cole is good, he'll get drafted before 6 because the Knicks leaked all their info out. Probably by the Golden State Warriors
If Cole is bad, we pick him and Knicks fans cheer.
If the Knicks front office fooled us, we probably pick some rando from Europe. Cue crying young Knicks fan who goes viral.

I pray to god someone picks Cole before us...but other teams are too smart for that.
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Post#1714 » by RHODEY » Mon May 4, 2020 2:49 pm

Naughtyfatboy wrote:WhAts everyone’s crow pick? Lol

The player you have doubts about that ends up proving you wrong. Doesn’t even have to be a top pick just anybody out of the draft.


Haliburton no doubt.
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Post#1715 » by Deeeez Knicks » Mon May 4, 2020 3:00 pm

Naughtyfatboy wrote:WhAts everyone’s crow pick? Lol

The player you have doubts about that ends up proving you wrong. Doesn’t even have to be a top pick just anybody out of the draft.


some players I am lower on...

Deni - looks like he can be a good role player but it will take some time and dont see the hype. I wouldnt take him in the lottery.

Obi Toppin - Don't see his game translating that well between his age and bad defense
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1716 » by Zenzibar » Mon May 4, 2020 4:09 pm

Why some of you guys are focusing on 3 and 4s is beyond comprehension when this year's draft is loaded with point guards.

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Post#1717 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon May 4, 2020 4:30 pm

Zenzibar wrote:Why some of you guys are focusing on 3 and 4s is beyond comprehension when this year's draft is loaded with point guards.

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We want the best player available. Not sure why that’s hard for you to understand lol
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Post#1718 » by Zenzibar » Mon May 4, 2020 4:46 pm

3toheadmelo wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:Why some of you guys are focusing on 3 and 4s is beyond comprehension when this year's draft is loaded with point guards.

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We want the best player available. Not sure why that’s hard for you to understand lol


Who are all these WE you speak of? The board? 1 or 2 others? :lol: Or is your amorous attachment to Wiseman in lue of Mitch Robinson gotten the best of you?


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Post#1719 » by 3toheadmelo » Mon May 4, 2020 4:58 pm

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3toheadmelo wrote:
Zenzibar wrote:Why some of you guys are focusing on 3 and 4s is beyond comprehension when this year's draft is loaded with point guards.

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We want the best player available. Not sure why that’s hard for you to understand lol


Who are all these WE you speak of? The board? 1 or 2 others? :lol: Or is your amorous attachment to Wiseman in lue of Mitch Robinson gotten the best of you?


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So who are you talking about for 3’s and 4’s? Lol. You just played yourself with that post.
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Re: 2019-2020 College/Draft thread (Part 3) 

Post#1720 » by TheGreenArrow » Mon May 4, 2020 5:09 pm

It’s going to be Cole folks,especially if we drop back or stay in place.

The LaMelo,Edwards or wiseman dream died for me along time ago.

It’s better to just accept this now.
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