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Post#1702 » by Richard4444 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 4:51 am

TheGreenArrow wrote::lol: :lol: at the posters wanting to throw the bag at Gary Trent jr and the Norman Powell’s of the world!!!!

Either go all in on Beal/Lavine etc or save your cap space and stay in assest acquisition mode!!!!

Don’t overpay for mediocre talents and lock us into mediocrity!!!!!!


If we don't get reinforcements on the next 2 offseasons we will lose the cap space because we will have to pay Randle, Mitch, and have RJ Cap Hold (plus any number of rookies we sign by then).

We can package Powell or Trent Jr in a trade for a star in the future. Powell/Trent can be our own LeVert/DeRozan to be used in the acquisition of our own Harden/Kawhi.
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Why would you want to give up the farm for him when we can just sign Trent Jr. straight out at the end of the season?

Cause he’s 5x better than Trent
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Why would you want to give up the farm for him when we can just sign Trent Jr. straight out at the end of the season?

Cause he’s 5x better than Trent


He is right now but compare Trent Jr's stats this year with LaVine's stats when he was just 22. Not that much of a difference and Trent Jr. is a two-way player and only a RFA. That combined with the fact that we wouldn't have to mortgage the future for him favors making the move for GTJ instead of LaVine.
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Why would you want to give up the farm for him when we can just sign Trent Jr. straight out at the end of the season?

Cause he’s 5x better than Trent


He is right now but compare Trent Jr's stats this year with LaVine's stats when he was just 22. Not that much of a difference and Trent Jr. is a two-way player and only a RFA. That combined with the fact that we wouldn't have to mortgage the future for him favors making the move for GTJ instead of LaVine.

That’s the same argument people used for Frank. They said Frank was better than Jrue Holiday as a rookie.

I think Trent is nice and wouldn’t mind him, but there’s a risk he’s like Tim Hardaway. Lavine is a sure thing on the other hand and is playing like a legit all star. A core of Lavine, RJ, Randle, Quickley and Mitch is a bright future imo.
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Post#1708 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:30 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Cause he’s 5x better than Trent


He is right now but compare Trent Jr's stats this year with LaVine's stats when he was just 22. Not that much of a difference and Trent Jr. is a two-way player and only a RFA. That combined with the fact that we wouldn't have to mortgage the future for him favors making the move for GTJ instead of LaVine.

That’s the same argument people used for Frank. They said Frank was better than Jrue Holiday as a rookie.

I think Trent is nice and wouldn’t mind him, but there’s a risk he’s like Tim Hardaway. Lavine is a sure thing on the other hand and is playing like a legit all star. A core of Lavine, RJ, Randle, Quickley and Mitch is a bright future imo.


You think we're getting LaVine without giving up RJ?

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There should be zero doubt that the Nets will win at least 2 titles with the super team that they have.
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Post#1710 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:48 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:Cause he’s 5x better than Trent


He is right now but compare Trent Jr's stats this year with LaVine's stats when he was just 22. Not that much of a difference and Trent Jr. is a two-way player and only a RFA. That combined with the fact that we wouldn't have to mortgage the future for him favors making the move for GTJ instead of LaVine.

That’s the same argument people used for Frank. They said Frank was better than Jrue Holiday as a rookie.

I think Trent is nice and wouldn’t mind him, but there’s a risk he’s like Tim Hardaway. Lavine is a sure thing on the other hand and is playing like a legit all star. A core of Lavine, RJ, Randle, Quickley and Mitch is a bright future imo.



LaVine is on a losing team, he's not a guy you build around, neither is Randle. You're skipping the most important step which is having a true superstar, neither one of them is that, and it would be no different than what the Pacers are going through, or what the Wiz went through with a healthy Wall and Beal. Which is you're a good team, not great, and you're capped out because LaVine is going to get that extension, Randle is going to get a new contract and Mitch is going to get a contract as well. You've depleted your asset base to get LaVine, so you can't trade for the next superstar, and you don't have the space to sign one 2-3 years from now because you've locked into that core, and you're too good to get a top 10 lottery pick.

That is how the story of trading for LaVine ends, we've seen this story over and over again. Trent is averaging 20ppg now as a starter, LaVine isn't 5x better than that, and soon enough he's going to be getting paid 2x as much as Trent.
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Post#1711 » by KnixtapeH20 » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:56 am

knicks94 wrote:There should be zero doubt that the Nets will win at least 2 titles with the super team that they have.

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Post#1712 » by WargamesX » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:57 am

HarthorneWingo wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
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He is right now but compare Trent Jr's stats this year with LaVine's stats when he was just 22. Not that much of a difference and Trent Jr. is a two-way player and only a RFA. That combined with the fact that we wouldn't have to mortgage the future for him favors making the move for GTJ instead of LaVine.

That’s the same argument people used for Frank. They said Frank was better than Jrue Holiday as a rookie.

I think Trent is nice and wouldn’t mind him, but there’s a risk he’s like Tim Hardaway. Lavine is a sure thing on the other hand and is playing like a legit all star. A core of Lavine, RJ, Randle, Quickley and Mitch is a bright future imo.


You think we're getting LaVine without giving up RJ?

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Only if he comes as a FA......

Also if we traded for him.... the irony that Thibs team is trading a young prospect for one of his ex players that is an underrated all star player is not missed on me. Also the fact that that player won’t sign an extension because he would lose a lot of money doing that so he could just walk..... is also not lost on me.

We shouldn’t trade for Lavine because we seen this story before. Build the team up and see if he is willing to come here to play with our young core.
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Post#1713 » by WargamesX » Fri Feb 19, 2021 5:59 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
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He is right now but compare Trent Jr's stats this year with LaVine's stats when he was just 22. Not that much of a difference and Trent Jr. is a two-way player and only a RFA. That combined with the fact that we wouldn't have to mortgage the future for him favors making the move for GTJ instead of LaVine.

That’s the same argument people used for Frank. They said Frank was better than Jrue Holiday as a rookie.

I think Trent is nice and wouldn’t mind him, but there’s a risk he’s like Tim Hardaway. Lavine is a sure thing on the other hand and is playing like a legit all star. A core of Lavine, RJ, Randle, Quickley and Mitch is a bright future imo.



LaVine is on a losing team, he's not a guy you build around, neither is Randle. You're skipping the most important step which is having a true superstar, neither one of them is that, and it would be no different than what the Pacers are going through, or what the Wiz went through with a healthy Wall and Beal. Which is you're a good team, not great, and you're capped out because LaVine is going to get that extension, Randle is going to get a new contract and Mitch is going to get a contract as well. You've depleted your asset base to get LaVine, so you can't trade for the next superstar, and you don't have the space to sign one 2-3 years from now because you've locked into that core, and you're too good to get a top 10 lottery pick.

That is how the story of trading for LaVine ends, we've seen this story over and over again. Trent is averaging 20ppg now as a starter, LaVine isn't 5x better than that, and soon enough he's going to be getting paid 2x as much as Trent.


Arguably this is why we should also try to maximize our draft picks..... but they keep struggling to be a .500
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Post#1714 » by 3toheadmelo » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:03 am

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
3toheadmelo wrote:
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He is right now but compare Trent Jr's stats this year with LaVine's stats when he was just 22. Not that much of a difference and Trent Jr. is a two-way player and only a RFA. That combined with the fact that we wouldn't have to mortgage the future for him favors making the move for GTJ instead of LaVine.

That’s the same argument people used for Frank. They said Frank was better than Jrue Holiday as a rookie.

I think Trent is nice and wouldn’t mind him, but there’s a risk he’s like Tim Hardaway. Lavine is a sure thing on the other hand and is playing like a legit all star. A core of Lavine, RJ, Randle, Quickley and Mitch is a bright future imo.



LaVine is on a losing team, he's not a guy you build around, neither is Randle. You're skipping the most important step which is having a true superstar, neither one of them is that, and it would be no different than what the Pacers are going through, or what the Wiz went through with a healthy Wall and Beal. Which is you're a good team, not great, and you're capped out because LaVine is going to get that extension, Randle is going to get a new contract and Mitch is going to get a contract as well. You've depleted your asset base to get LaVine, so you can't trade for the next superstar, and you don't have the space to sign one 2-3 years from now because you've locked into that core, and you're too good to get a top 10 lottery pick.

That is how the story of trading for LaVine ends, we've seen this story over and over again. Trent is averaging 20ppg now as a starter, LaVine isn't 5x better than that, and soon enough he's going to be getting paid 2x as much as Trent.

You’re acting like Mitch and Randle is gonna get a max by us.

And yes Lavine is 5x better. That’s not even debatable lol
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Post#1715 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:05 am

WargamesX wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:That’s the same argument people used for Frank. They said Frank was better than Jrue Holiday as a rookie.

I think Trent is nice and wouldn’t mind him, but there’s a risk he’s like Tim Hardaway. Lavine is a sure thing on the other hand and is playing like a legit all star. A core of Lavine, RJ, Randle, Quickley and Mitch is a bright future imo.



LaVine is on a losing team, he's not a guy you build around, neither is Randle. You're skipping the most important step which is having a true superstar, neither one of them is that, and it would be no different than what the Pacers are going through, or what the Wiz went through with a healthy Wall and Beal. Which is you're a good team, not great, and you're capped out because LaVine is going to get that extension, Randle is going to get a new contract and Mitch is going to get a contract as well. You've depleted your asset base to get LaVine, so you can't trade for the next superstar, and you don't have the space to sign one 2-3 years from now because you've locked into that core, and you're too good to get a top 10 lottery pick.

That is how the story of trading for LaVine ends, we've seen this story over and over again. Trent is averaging 20ppg now as a starter, LaVine isn't 5x better than that, and soon enough he's going to be getting paid 2x as much as Trent.


Arguably this is why we should also try to maximize our draft picks..... but they keep struggling to be a .500



It's honestly the same FOMO that lead to us trading everything for Melo, we saw all these other teams making moves, and the fear of missing out got in the way of logic. Now, we're seeing all these superstars get traded, and we don't want to miss out on the party which is why everyone keeps saying Beal/LaVine, like they're on the same level as AD/Harden and trading for them will make us a contender.
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Post#1716 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:09 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:That’s the same argument people used for Frank. They said Frank was better than Jrue Holiday as a rookie.

I think Trent is nice and wouldn’t mind him, but there’s a risk he’s like Tim Hardaway. Lavine is a sure thing on the other hand and is playing like a legit all star. A core of Lavine, RJ, Randle, Quickley and Mitch is a bright future imo.



LaVine is on a losing team, he's not a guy you build around, neither is Randle. You're skipping the most important step which is having a true superstar, neither one of them is that, and it would be no different than what the Pacers are going through, or what the Wiz went through with a healthy Wall and Beal. Which is you're a good team, not great, and you're capped out because LaVine is going to get that extension, Randle is going to get a new contract and Mitch is going to get a contract as well. You've depleted your asset base to get LaVine, so you can't trade for the next superstar, and you don't have the space to sign one 2-3 years from now because you've locked into that core, and you're too good to get a top 10 lottery pick.

That is how the story of trading for LaVine ends, we've seen this story over and over again. Trent is averaging 20ppg now as a starter, LaVine isn't 5x better than that, and soon enough he's going to be getting paid 2x as much as Trent.

You’re acting like Mitch and Randle is gonna get a max by us.

And yes Lavine is 5x better. That’s not even debatable lol


I'm good with extending Randle but I don't see him and LaVine as a winning combination especially when you consider what we'd have to give up.
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Post#1717 » by Capn'O » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:09 am

3toheadmelo wrote:
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3toheadmelo wrote:Cause he’s 5x better than Trent


He is right now but compare Trent Jr's stats this year with LaVine's stats when he was just 22. Not that much of a difference and Trent Jr. is a two-way player and only a RFA. That combined with the fact that we wouldn't have to mortgage the future for him favors making the move for GTJ instead of LaVine.

That’s the same argument people used for Frank. They said Frank was better than Jrue Holiday as a rookie.

I think Trent is nice and wouldn’t mind him, but there’s a risk he’s like Tim Hardaway. Lavine is a sure thing on the other hand and is playing like a legit all star. A core of Lavine, RJ, Randle, Quickley and Mitch is a bright future imo.


Look at him next to Lillard. He's more Klay Thompson than Timmy. Big guard. Good defense. Lights out shooter. Good discretion on when he's hot and not. You can put a Trent on pretty much any roster and it'll hum. He'll be hard to pry from the Blazers imo.

Lavine is more like a WAYYYYY souped up Timmy. A little streakier than Trent and more dynamic. I think you need a certain personnel for a player like him.
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Post#1718 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:12 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:That’s the same argument people used for Frank. They said Frank was better than Jrue Holiday as a rookie.

I think Trent is nice and wouldn’t mind him, but there’s a risk he’s like Tim Hardaway. Lavine is a sure thing on the other hand and is playing like a legit all star. A core of Lavine, RJ, Randle, Quickley and Mitch is a bright future imo.



LaVine is on a losing team, he's not a guy you build around, neither is Randle. You're skipping the most important step which is having a true superstar, neither one of them is that, and it would be no different than what the Pacers are going through, or what the Wiz went through with a healthy Wall and Beal. Which is you're a good team, not great, and you're capped out because LaVine is going to get that extension, Randle is going to get a new contract and Mitch is going to get a contract as well. You've depleted your asset base to get LaVine, so you can't trade for the next superstar, and you don't have the space to sign one 2-3 years from now because you've locked into that core, and you're too good to get a top 10 lottery pick.

That is how the story of trading for LaVine ends, we've seen this story over and over again. Trent is averaging 20ppg now as a starter, LaVine isn't 5x better than that, and soon enough he's going to be getting paid 2x as much as Trent.

You’re acting like Mitch and Randle is gonna get a max by us.

And yes Lavine is 5x better. That’s not even debatable lol


Now you're throwing your boy Randle under the bus for LaVine and his lousy azz Bulls? :lol:
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Post#1719 » by knickstape4ever » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:12 am

Mavs-Rockets game getting postponed is good for us

assumably they'll reschedule for later in the season and Dipo and Wood will likely be back
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Post#1720 » by HarthorneWingo » Fri Feb 19, 2021 6:12 am

Capn'O wrote:
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He is right now but compare Trent Jr's stats this year with LaVine's stats when he was just 22. Not that much of a difference and Trent Jr. is a two-way player and only a RFA. That combined with the fact that we wouldn't have to mortgage the future for him favors making the move for GTJ instead of LaVine.

That’s the same argument people used for Frank. They said Frank was better than Jrue Holiday as a rookie.

I think Trent is nice and wouldn’t mind him, but there’s a risk he’s like Tim Hardaway. Lavine is a sure thing on the other hand and is playing like a legit all star. A core of Lavine, RJ, Randle, Quickley and Mitch is a bright future imo.


Look at him next to Lillard. He's more Klay Thompson than Timmy. Big guard. Good defense. Lights out shooter. Good discretion on when he's hot and not. You can put a Trent on pretty much any roster and it'll hum. He'll be hard to pry from the Blazers imo.

Lavine is more like a WAYYYYY souped up Timmy. A little streakier and more dynamic.


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