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Post#1701 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:21 pm

spree2kawhi wrote:I think that, other than Giannis, our KAT is the best player talked about in this thread. Instead of dreaming of this nonsense, we should go after DiVincenzo, get a backup for Mitch and roll with this group. Between Hart, DiVo and, say, Horford there would be enough depth on the bench to make a legit Finals run in the East next season.


If we get 2024 NyK Divo back its a HUGE move. However I still want protection for KAT if we keep him and JJJ is so ideal for that (if we cant get Giannis and with a very unreliable Mitch health wise)
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Post#1702 » by Fat » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:51 pm

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sol537 wrote:I’d rather do a 4-team type of trade where KD ends up in MIN, SAS or HOU, then KAT ends up in PHX, then some of those assets for KD go to MEM and we get JJJ and parts in return. Shuffle the decks so to speak.

And then we could extend Mikal and Mitch and remain under the aprons because JJJ’s salary is lower than KAT’s the rest of the way.



If KAT is part of package JJJ/Bane need to come back here. KAT/Hart go bye bye.

JJJ/Huk
OG/MLE
Bridges/Bane/MLE
Bane/McBride/Bridges
Brunson/Wright/McBride

we become the worst rebounding team in the league overnight


The JJJ full time center trades is nuts lol. You can play him center through out the game in spurts but just having him as your primary starting center is not sustainable.
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Post#1703 » by spree8 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 3:54 pm

sol537 wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:I think that, other than Giannis, our KAT is the best player talked about in this thread. Instead of dreaming of this nonsense, we should go after DiVincenzo, get a backup for Mitch and roll with this group. Between Hart, DiVo and, say, Horford there would be enough depth on the bench to make a legit Finals run in the East next season.


Would you be willing to part with Deuce, Dadiet, two 2nd rounders, and Tucker to get DDV if that's what MIN demanded? It's a steep price...

I'd love Hortford and CP3 for the vet minimums but both are doubtful to come here I would think. If you use the Tax MLE someone mentioned that would put us in the 2nd apron? Might only have vet minimums to use.

I think extending Mitch and Mikal are the priorities this off-season and bringing in a brilliant young'ish coach. If we nail those things, we'll already be in great shape to take the #1 or #2 seed in the East.



I think there’s a small chance with Horford given his history/friendship with KAT and the fact that staying in Boston next year would be a waste. Only issue is the money… but he’s old and gotten plenty of big paydays. He’s a competitor and may want to win another title..

Cp3 however…

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Post#1704 » by Pr0nzingis » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:12 pm

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Pr0nzingis wrote:Honestly i would be ok if Knicks do nothing. New coach and a serviceable center, move Towns to PF, bench Hart and give it another go.

I feel there's gonna be a lot of trades, lot of teams wanting the same players, that equals to high asking prices, just do nothing and when the dust settles pick up left overs for a bargain and get a real deep rotation going.

Copy pacers, 1st half of season to give minutes and confidence to scrubs, 2nd half best team on the NBA and carry that to the playoffs.

The only players i would be ok gutting this team would be Giannis.


Just running it back and adding a new coach is just flat out not good enough. A new coach is not going to magically fix the KAT and Brunson defensive dilemma. They need to find another guard that can create offense and take pressure off brunson on offense and allow him to play off the ball. THEY MUST GET MORE ATHLETIC as a roster, starting 5 might be the least athletic team in the nba, and they obviously need to add more depth. A huge task for Leon that just replacing the coach won’t fix


Moving Towns to PF fixes a part of the Kat Brunson defensive woes, having a new coach that rest Brunson and don't force him to bring the ball up being pressured every single time also fixes his defensive woes by having energy to actually defend. Putting Bridges on the bench and Mcbride in the starting five solves the ball handling plus gives Bridges a considerable amount of minutes being the go to guy, instead of just standing in the corner watching Brunson ISO.

hey i'm not against Towns being traded, i actually think he was brought just for that, i would be ok trading him for Durant, give it a go, then let Durant expire and u have cap space to sign Giannis outright, but like i said my problem is having to give way to much to beat other teams.
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Post#1705 » by VirginiaKnickFan » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:18 pm

The JJJ infatuation is approaching the level of Walker Kessler last offseason.
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Post#1706 » by sol537 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:26 pm

1) Hire competent coach
2) Trade KAT to PHX for KD + two 1st round picks
3) Extend Mitch and Mikal
4) Sign Hortford to Vet Min 1yr Deal

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Post#1707 » by snadler » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:27 pm

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Post#1708 » by Fury » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:30 pm

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Post#1709 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:32 pm

Pr0nzingis wrote:
snadler wrote:
Pr0nzingis wrote:Honestly i would be ok if Knicks do nothing. New coach and a serviceable center, move Towns to PF, bench Hart and give it another go.

I feel there's gonna be a lot of trades, lot of teams wanting the same players, that equals to high asking prices, just do nothing and when the dust settles pick up left overs for a bargain and get a real deep rotation going.

Copy pacers, 1st half of season to give minutes and confidence to scrubs, 2nd half best team on the NBA and carry that to the playoffs.

The only players i would be ok gutting this team would be Giannis.


Just running it back and adding a new coach is just flat out not good enough. A new coach is not going to magically fix the KAT and Brunson defensive dilemma. They need to find another guard that can create offense and take pressure off brunson on offense and allow him to play off the ball. THEY MUST GET MORE ATHLETIC as a roster, starting 5 might be the least athletic team in the nba, and they obviously need to add more depth. A huge task for Leon that just replacing the coach won’t fix


Moving Towns to PF fixes a part of the Kat Brunson defensive woes, having a new coach that rest Brunson and don't force him to bring the ball up being pressured every single time also fixes his defensive woes by having energy to actually defend. Putting Bridges on the bench and Mcbride in the starting five solves the ball handling plus gives Bridges a considerable amount of minutes being the go to guy, instead of just standing in the corner watching Brunson ISO.

hey i'm not against Towns being traded, i actually think he was brought just for that, i would be ok trading him for Durant, give it a go, then let Durant expire and u have cap space to sign Giannis outright, but like i said my problem is having to give way to much to beat other teams.


Staggering their minutes better was one of the many fatal flaws of Thibs robotic thinking . And it WILL make a pretty appreciatiable difference.
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Post#1710 » by R-DAWG » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:33 pm

Fat wrote:
NiceLikeChrist wrote:
KnixinSix wrote:

If KAT is part of package JJJ/Bane need to come back here. KAT/Hart go bye bye.

JJJ/Huk
OG/MLE
Bridges/Bane/MLE
Bane/McBride/Bridges
Brunson/Wright/McBride

we become the worst rebounding team in the league overnight


They JJJ full time center trades is nuts lol. You can play him center through out the game in spurts but just having him as your primary starting center is not sustainable.


I think a JJJ/KAT pairing with Mitch off the bench would work very nicely. KAT/JJJ are interchangeable between the 4/5 and Mitch gives you extra defense when needed.
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Post#1711 » by snadler » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:34 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
Pr0nzingis wrote:
snadler wrote:
Just running it back and adding a new coach is just flat out not good enough. A new coach is not going to magically fix the KAT and Brunson defensive dilemma. They need to find another guard that can create offense and take pressure off brunson on offense and allow him to play off the ball. THEY MUST GET MORE ATHLETIC as a roster, starting 5 might be the least athletic team in the nba, and they obviously need to add more depth. A huge task for Leon that just replacing the coach won’t fix


Moving Towns to PF fixes a part of the Kat Brunson defensive woes, having a new coach that rest Brunson and don't force him to bring the ball up being pressured every single time also fixes his defensive woes by having energy to actually defend. Putting Bridges on the bench and Mcbride in the starting five solves the ball handling plus gives Bridges a considerable amount of minutes being the go to guy, instead of just standing in the corner watching Brunson ISO.

hey i'm not against Towns being traded, i actually think he was brought just for that, i would be ok trading him for Durant, give it a go, then let Durant expire and u have cap space to sign Giannis outright, but like i said my problem is having to give way to much to beat other teams.


Staggering their minutes better was one of the many fatal flaws of Thibs robotic thinking . And it WILL make a pretty appreciatiable difference.


Champions don’t need to stagger there 2 best players.
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Post#1712 » by snadler » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:34 pm

I trade KAT for KD straight up
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Post#1713 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:34 pm

sol537 wrote:1) Hire competent coach
2) Trade KAT to PHX for KD + two 1st round picks
3) Extend Mitch and Mikal
4) Sign Hortford to Vet Min 1yr Deal

Mitch / OG / KD / Mikal / Brunson
Bench: Hortford, Hart, Deuce, Shamet, Huk, etc.

#1 or #2 record in the East
ECF/Finals Appearance


I just don't like the risk projection of going from 3 controlled years of KAT to only one for an older, more injury prone KD.
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Post#1714 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:37 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
Fat wrote:
NiceLikeChrist wrote:we become the worst rebounding team in the league overnight


They JJJ full time center trades is nuts lol. You can play him center through out the game in spurts but just having him as your primary starting center is not sustainable.


I think a JJJ/KAT pairing with Mitch off the bench would work very nicely. KAT/JJJ are interchangeable between the 4/5 and Mitch gives you extra defense when needed.


Just bc JJJ didn't rebound a ton in Memphis doesn't mean utilization wasn't partly a contributor to that. You will see fluctuations in KAT rebounds numbers but Thibs system definitely pushed for rebounds and KATs rebounds went up from prior recent years.
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Post#1715 » by KnixinSix » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:39 pm

R-DAWG wrote:
Fat wrote:
NiceLikeChrist wrote:we become the worst rebounding team in the league overnight


They JJJ full time center trades is nuts lol. You can play him center through out the game in spurts but just having him as your primary starting center is not sustainable.


I think a JJJ/KAT pairing with Mitch off the bench would work very nicely. KAT/JJJ are interchangeable between the 4/5 and Mitch gives you extra defense when needed.


Exactly and Huk on his 2nd year of development curve and under a new coach may be able to chip in a few solid minutes too.
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Post#1716 » by spree8 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:40 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
sol537 wrote:1) Hire competent coach
2) Trade KAT to PHX for KD + two 1st round picks
3) Extend Mitch and Mikal
4) Sign Hortford to Vet Min 1yr Deal

Mitch / OG / KD / Mikal / Brunson
Bench: Hortford, Hart, Deuce, Shamet, Huk, etc.

#1 or #2 record in the East
ECF/Finals Appearance


I just don't like the risk projection of going from 3 controlled years of KAT to only one for an older, more injury prone KD.



I think he’d have the extension all worked out with the new team prior to the trade according to reports… but that’s another concern altogether. Do we really wanna be paying a 39/40 year old (who hasn’t been the same since his achilles injury) a crazy max salary? I dunno..

But if we do it, I think it’d be a massive fail to trade KAT for him. They’d really have to get as many picks and young players they can tossed in a follow up deal with Phoenix to even it out.
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Post#1717 » by sol537 » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:41 pm

KnixinSix wrote:
sol537 wrote:1) Hire competent coach
2) Trade KAT to PHX for KD + two 1st round picks
3) Extend Mitch and Mikal
4) Sign Hortford to Vet Min 1yr Deal

Mitch / OG / KD / Mikal / Brunson
Bench: Hortford, Hart, Deuce, Shamet, Huk, etc.

#1 or #2 record in the East
ECF/Finals Appearance


I just don't like the risk projection of going from 3 controlled years of KAT to only one for an older, more injury prone KD.


As part of the trade, KD would have to indicate a willingness to extend for 1-2 additional years at a discounted rate (given his age and to help NYK build a stronger team under the 2nd apron). The picks and cap relief and fit make it worthwhile despite KAT's younger age and "locked in" contractual status...
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Post#1718 » by snadler » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:43 pm

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Post#1719 » by 3toheadmelo » Wed Jun 11, 2025 4:43 pm

KD for KAT LFG!
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Post#1720 » by Woodsanity » Wed Jun 11, 2025 5:01 pm

spree8 wrote:
sol537 wrote:
spree2kawhi wrote:I think that, other than Giannis, our KAT is the best player talked about in this thread. Instead of dreaming of this nonsense, we should go after DiVincenzo, get a backup for Mitch and roll with this group. Between Hart, DiVo and, say, Horford there would be enough depth on the bench to make a legit Finals run in the East next season.


Would you be willing to part with Deuce, Dadiet, two 2nd rounders, and Tucker to get DDV if that's what MIN demanded? It's a steep price...

I'd love Hortford and CP3 for the vet minimums but both are doubtful to come here I would think. If you use the Tax MLE someone mentioned that would put us in the 2nd apron? Might only have vet minimums to use.

I think extending Mitch and Mikal are the priorities this off-season and bringing in a brilliant young'ish coach. If we nail those things, we'll already be in great shape to take the #1 or #2 seed in the East.



I think there’s a small chance with Horford given his history/friendship with KAT and the fact that staying in Boston next year would be a waste. Only issue is the money… but he’s old and gotten plenty of big paydays. He’s a competitor and may want to win another title..

Cp3 however…

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Too bad. CP3 playing with the bench unit and Kat would be a dream come true. :cry:
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