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[malik959]

Random Ellingthong thought. I don't trust 3pt shooters who don't have good arc on their shot. Ellingthong shoots it on the b-line. Seems like one of those dudes who is gonna hit all the 3's that don't matter but miss all the ones we desperately need to go down.

Not only that but it causes long rebounds for fast breaks while our bugs are still under the basket.

[3toheadmelo]

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[GONYK]

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Marcus' very clear dislike for Kyrie and complete lack of concern over calling Kyrie out is one of my favorite things about him

[Jalen Bluntson]

Preseaon is over. Lock it up!

[Fat Kat]

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[dakomish23]

https://stats.nba.com/players/traditional/?PerMode=Totals&Season=2019-20&SeasonType=Pre%20Season&TeamID=1610612752&dir=-1&sort=PTS

Some raw numbers with no context

Mitch with the 2nd worst +/- at -28 behind Elf -42

Morris 53% FG 50% 3PT 78% FT

Randle was 44% from 3 on 4 3PA . Also 4 stls and 4 blks.

RJB 46% FG 33% 3PT 67% FT . Might be the efficiency we should expect for year one. Isn’t terrible for a rookie guard who’s gonna be on of the go to guys.

Frank and DSJ need to get their efficiency way up.

[Jeff Van Gully]

Preseaon is over. Lock it up!

we can let it rock until the season kicks off frfr tomorrow.

[thebuzzardman]

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[dakomish23]

BSPN power rankings

28. New York Knicks
2018-19 record: 17-65
2020 title odds: +50000

New York Knicks Projections
ESPN
26-56

FORECAST BPI
29-53

FIVETHIRTYEIGHT
20-62

VEGAS
27 wins

The theme this season for the Knicks? Growth. Again.

What they did this summer
This summer was supposed to be when glory returned to Madison Square Garden. The Knicks were confident they were the front-runners to land marquee free agents Kevin Durant and Kyrie Irving. Knicks owner Jim Dolan went on national radio and boasted, "We're going to have a very successful offseason when it comes to free agents." Durant and Irving ended up signing with the other borough: Brooklyn. The Knicks then moved quickly and signed Bobby Portis, Julius Randle, Marcus Morris, Reggie Bullock, Taj Gibson and others. They drafted RJ Barrett with the third pick in the 2019 draft.

BPI's best-case scenario (36-46) and how they get there
The Knicks winning 36 games will be challenging, but not impossible. In order for it to materialize, New York will likely have to prioritize veteran minutes over younger players' development -- more of Morris, Portis and Randle while sacrificing the developmental minutes of players like Barrett and Kevin Knox. Another plausible scenario is Barrett has an explosive season and puts himself in the running for Rookie of the Year, while big man Mitchell Robinson takes another step forward defensively.

One big question: The road ahead
The Knicks must sort out which players are cornerstones of the franchise's seemingly perpetual rebuild and which players are transient. Who will be in New York for years to come? How about just next year? This turnover must slow down.

-- Malika Andrews

[3toheadmelo]

Randle is an improved 3-point shooter, hitting 34 percent last season in New Orleans, and it’ll be part of his arsenal this season, but teams don’t fear it and barely respect it. The Pelicans barely closed out on Randle when he was behind the line, or did so without much intensity, leaving Randle room to shoot or guarding him with their hands down. But Randle did shoot 43.8 percent on 3s this preseason (7-of-16) and if he maintains even a better-than-league-average percentage then opponents will have to start respecting it.

[HEZI]

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I'm gonna cut Kyrie some slack because he was dealing with the death of somebody close to him. He even admitted his failures in terms of leadership last season but he did have a lot weighing down on his chest

Gonna see if there is a difference now that he's closer to his family

[god shammgod]

Randle is an improved 3-point shooter, hitting 34 percent last season in New Orleans, and it’ll be part of his arsenal this season, but teams don’t fear it and barely respect it. The Pelicans barely closed out on Randle when he was behind the line, or did so without much intensity, leaving Randle room to shoot or guarding him with their hands down. But Randle did shoot 43.8 percent on 3s this preseason (7-of-16) and if he maintains even a better-than-league-average percentage then opponents will have to start respecting it.

that's why you can't have a non 3 point threat at pg too. how many people in the knicks starting lineup do you even have to respect from 3 ?

mitch - no
randle - no
morrris - yes
rj - no
dsj/payton/frank - no

that's ridiculous

[F N 11]

Oh Mitch you hurt again. Time to draft another shot blocking big next year.

[Capn'O]